Nagato outsmarted/overpowered by Itachi

[LeEvilTongue]

Itachi won't be an easy opponant for any one.

It was pretty easy for Kabuto to kill him.

 

[6thpathsage]

Highly unlikely!! Nagato (yahiko ressurect) fought naruto sage mode and then 4 up to 8 tails naruto after destroying the whole of the leaf village with a single shinra tensei after which he revives the whole village with his LEFT OVER chakra.. Naruto got a easy pass btw did you guys know he can use all 5 elements..He has yet to show us so much. I gotta admit itachi is a wise n well rounded ninja and that would work in his favour in the fight. He will NOT die in the fight but i sense he would retreat and live to fight another day because nagato WILL overpower him

ps (talk of susanoo tanking shinra tensei... well if susanoo is bigger and more resilient than a whole village then yeahh why not but NO it isnt:noc:

soz for the repost but this.

 

[Munboy]

Itachi didn't outsmart, nor did he overpower Nagato. If we go by portrayal Nagato is obviously>Itachi.
MS Sasuke surpassed Itachi, but Tobi wants Sasuke to get stronger by exceeding Nagato.

Things like that are dropped to show that Itachi just isn't on Nagato's level. If he was, he wouldn't be needing a massive amount of help to fight people on Nagato or Kabuto's level of power.

 

[minato thethundergod]

I totaly agree

 

[shogun973]

Itachi didn't outsmart, nor did he overpower Nagato. If we go by portrayal Nagato is obviously>Itachi.
MS Sasuke surpassed Itachi, but Tobi wants Sasuke to get stronger by exceeding Nagato.

Things like that are dropped to show that Itachi just isn't on Nagato's level. If he was, he wouldn't be needing a massive amount of help to fight people on Nagato or Kabuto's level of power.

ur dumb everything said was wrong, he could have killed sasuke when he had him in tsukyomi, amateretsu, and many other opportunities, the reason he let it go that long was to remove orochimaru, and give sasuke more power (MS) before he died from disease. he saved naruto and bee not the other way, then solo'd kabuto, sasuke did nothing. that fight was over when it started.

how could nagato counter izanami.....

 

[shogun973]

Never did anything like that happen in the manga. It was Danzo whom he threatened.

he threatened danzo and the elders because they are not trustworthy, 3rd hokage agreed to protect him, hence the reason he is in team 7 under care of kakashi. and the reason that itachi came back to the village after the 3rd died to make sure that danzo diddnt act up

 

[Munboy]

ur dumb everything said was wrong, he could have killed sasuke when he had him in tsukyomi, amateretsu, and many other opportunities, the reason he let it go that long was to remove orochimaru, and give sasuke more power (MS) before he died from disease. he saved naruto and bee not the other way, then solo'd kabuto, sasuke did nothing. that fight was over when it started.

how could nagato counter izanami.....

Wut...

Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi along with these "many other opportunities" never existed. The only opportunity Itachi had was with Susanoo.

No-one said he didn't save Naruto and Bee, he just clearly didn't overpower or outsmart Nagato. It was more like to stand a chance he had to fight a Nagato not paying attention.

He didn't solo Kabuto at all, Sasuke saved Itachi a lot more times than he was saved. No Sasuke = pawn Itachi.

Izanami is a jutsu that works on those who don't accept themselves. Since the end of the Pain arc, Nagato does accept himself. Further going by Kabuto vs the Uchiha brothers, against Kabuto-Nagato tier shinobi, Itachi will not even be able to last long enough to set the repeat event nor would he be able to. Unless Sasuke - or a shinobi of a similar level - backs him up whilst the foe has some limitations.


If you're going to try and make a counterargument, use events that existed. Do not conjectures, omissions and exaggeration.

 

[shogun973]

Wut...

Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi along with these "many other opportunities" never existed. The only opportunity Itachi had was with Susanoo.

No-one said he didn't save Naruto and Bee, he just clearly didn't overpower or outsmart Nagato. It was more like to stand a chance he had to fight a Nagato not paying attention.

He didn't solo Kabuto at all, Sasuke saved Itachi a lot more times than he was saved. No Sasuke = pawn Itachi.

Izanami is a jutsu that works on those who don't accept themselves. Since the end of the Pain arc, Nagato does accept himself. Further going by Kabuto vs the Uchiha brothers, against Kabuto-Nagato tier shinobi, Itachi will not even be able to last long enough to set the repeat event nor would he be able to. Unless Sasuke - or a shinobi of a similar level - backs him up whilst the foe has some limitations.


If you're going to try and make a counterargument, use events that existed. Do not conjectures, omissions and exaggeration.

he caught him with amatertetsu and let it out to "save his eyes" when really he wanted sasuke to expend more chakra to release orochimaru....I was testing you on the izanami part to see if you knew what u were talking about and you passed. itachi knew what he was doing the whole time he's an edo, he knew how to stop edo tensei, he knew kabuto was poser that fight was easy. itachi used shrunken to blind nagato, saved naruto, and bee and sealed nagato as well I call that outsmarting and out powering

 

[Munboy]

he caught him with amatertetsu and let it out to "save his eyes" when really he wanted sasuke to expend more chakra to release orochimaru....I was testing you on the izanami part to see if you knew what u were talking about and you passed. itachi knew what he was doing the whole time he's an edo, he knew how to stop edo tensei, he knew kabuto was poser that fight was easy. itachi used shrunken to blind nagato, saved naruto, and bee and sealed nagato as well I call that outsmarting and out powering

Overpowering would be if Itachi overwhelmed Nagato in a manner where his superiority wouldn't be questioned. That never happened.
Outsmarting would be if he did something Nagato wasn't expecting. Nagato expected the Amaterasu - but Edos can't react to other Edos, further Nagato was a friend not a foe. From there on, it could be said he outsmarted Kabuto, who was in total control of Nagato. Kabuto must be considered as he was clearly unaware of things like Nagato's sensory abilities.

I know what Itachi wanted to do with Sasuke, but it was shown that when Sasuke got hit by Amaterasu, he countered. All before Itachi stopped the flames. Itachi hit Sasuke with all he could handle (which was everything, except Susanoo) then forced Orochimaru out. I agree there, however it doesn't discredit what I said.
Though I guess Itachi could have killed Sasuke anytime he wanted, any form of Susanoo would've helped Itachi get the upper hand.

Itachi knew Kabuto wasn't a poser, especially when Sage Mode came in. That's why he was taking him seriously and resorted to Kinjutsu.
Itachi, nor Sasuke (?), could take Kabuto. That's why they worked together, and that is why their team work was emphasized through the flashback up to how Itachi got point A for Izanami.

Itachi is a very powerful shinobi. However guys like Nagato are Kabuto, they're just on a whole other band of power.

 

[henrii]

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[penisman]

ITACHIIII WOULD WHOOOOOOP NAGATOS ASS. The only other stronger people are the 1st and 2nd hokage, madara uchina

 

[enditallsin]

Nagato would shit on that fool itachi.. especially if he had all his powers AND his mobility,lord have mercy...that would be over kill.... theirs no way in hell that itachi intelligence can make up for the excruciating mayhem and chaos that nagato would unleash on him(which is without a doubt be beyond the level of kuramas rampage on konaha)not no 1 on 1, itachi does not even have what it takes to survive something like that let alone beat it..if the fight ever happed itachi would probably be ducking,dodging,dipping,diving, and defending(or dodging) and i willing to explain if anyone here wants to test me

 

[xavier777]

itachi will definitely defeat nagato

 

[tazze019]

Nagato >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Itachi

 

[khaydz5]

WOW, this again guys..seriously?

its like every now and then there is this one noob itachi fan that registers in NB and just make threads like this.. wow... just wow itachi fanboys...

every sane person would know how nagato is superior to itachi, kishi portraits nagato as a man you cannot beat alone. simple as that.

 

[uchiahjay]

i consider itachi a perfect ninja,this is a guy who has not been shown @ his peak but has accomplished what no ninja has, infarct i will compare him to the rikodu sage

 

[khaydz5]

the power of ct is used by mass which amaterasu could have easily gotten rid of but thats a risky tech to use itachi simply used the best method available why waste chakra destroying it himself knowing theres two fully powered jinchuriki right next to him.

nagato can only beat itachi with high diff and the whole akatsuki helping him

what makes you think throwing itachi's strongest long range technique which is yasaka magatama uses less chakra than amaterasu?

use logic pls.

 

[crysis04]

this is different from fighting one on one

 

[Scooby Doo]

wow itachi fanboys! lol.

1st itachi cannot destroy it with one yasaka magatama, TBB alone cannot do it, what makes you think a mere yasaka can?lol

2nd what makes you think throwing itachi's strongest long range technique which is yasaka magatama uses less chakra than amaterasu?

use logic pls.

And you should learn to read...pls...I wrote that of course one yasaka magatama cannot destroy CT....so I said the exact same thing as you, yet you say I'm a stupid Itachi fanboy because I said that he can destroy it with one y.m....

 

[khaydz5]

And you should learn to read...pls...I wrote that of course one yasaka magatama cannot destroy CT....so I said the exact same thing as you, yet you say I'm a stupid Itachi fanboy because I said that he can destroy it with one y.m....

yeah I just reread it and I thought you said one ct can destroy it. but the other guy that I quoted still doesn't make sense, so I will still say that itachi fanboys are really stupid