Is shisui>hashirama?

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What the hell? Do you lack common sense? He's been under KA all the way till he undid Edo Tensie. GET OFF MY THREAD ALREADY!! ILLOGICAL PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE NOT WELCOMED AND YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY TROLLING. I DO NOT APPRECIATE PEOPLE CALLING PEOPLE FANBOYS WHEN THEY THEMSLEVES HAVE NO VALID AFGUMENTS!

So I guess it's a permanent genjutsu then, huh... but seeing as we don't know anything on Hashirama... U_U
 

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So I guess it's a permanent genjutsu then, huh... but seeing as we don't know anything on Hashirama... U_U

Oooohhh well thanks for noticing :D. and yes we don't know. But what can he possibly have?
 

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Oooohhh well thanks for noticing :D. and yes we don't know. But what can he possibly have?

U_U Hashirama is a direct descendant of the SO6P... just like the Uchiha. He has more than just Mokuton... read a little

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its an ability that u can only use once every 10 years, its not spamable or anything.
 

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its an ability that u can only use once every 10 years, its not spamable or anything.

Only Itachi since he didnt have shisui or senju cells.

Danzo could use it every few hours and Shisui can use it any time
 

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U_U Hashirama is a direct descendant of the SO6P... just like the Uchiha. He has more than just Mokuton... read a little

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So is uchiha shisui :) They both are since they are senju and uchiha.
Only Itachi since he didnt have shisui or senju cells.

Danzo could use it every few hours and Shisui can use it any time

That's true because its shisuis own technique.
 

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the extent to which hashirama gets underrated sometimes its unreal...but if he gets hit by ka i believe its over really aslong he doesnt notice
 

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Only Itachi since he didnt have shisui or senju cells.

Danzo could use it every few hours and Shisui can use it any time

Itachi was Shisui's best friend. He knows him more than anyone.
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So is uchiha shisui :) They both are since they are senju and uchiha.

What I meant was that the Uchiha are not the only descendants of the SO6P. They must have their own unique techniques... not just the Uchiha.
 
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It seems people have mistook powerful opponents for GODS. Hashirama is a far cry from a god and i see no reason why one of the strongest if not the strongest doujutsu cannot affect him.
 

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I'm pretty sure Shisui can't use it everytime. If he could, he would have controlled the whole of Konoha by now.
 

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the extent to which hashirama gets underrated sometimes its unreal...but if he gets hit by ka i believe its over really aslong he doesnt notice

KA is the strongest genjutsu on this whole manga. What can hashirama possibly have over that, especially when it doesn't even require eye contact.
 

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It seems people have mistook powerful opponents for GODS. Hashirama is a far cry from a god and i see no reason why one of the strongest if not the strongest doujutsu cannot affect him.

Madara is considered a "god", but Hashirama defeated him. And why can't Hashirama have special techniques? Because he's not an Uchiha? U_U
 

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I mean he has a genjutsu that can control you without you even knowing and does not even require eye contact. All hashi has to do is cross his path and it is over. What do you guys think?

I'm sure if Hashirama could figure a complete way around Madara Uchiha, he could find a way around Koto Amatsukami.
 

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I'm pretty sure Shisui can't use it everytime. If he could, he would have controlled the whole of Konoha by now.

I doubt its every 10 years... he proablly used it rarely since he didnt have EMS.
 

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KA is the strongest genjutsu on this whole manga. What can hashirama possibly have over that, especially when it doesn't even require eye contact.

if there ends up being a new genjutsu stronger than ka watch how kishi makes is seam like its almost useless to the new one...but i dont know it there is gona be a new one...i am sure there is also a way to beat KA... can i ask how much doo u knw about KA and how much do you know about hashirama - people forget he had a scroll said to be filled with forbidden techs so he must have known some of those.
 

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Madara is considered a "god", but Hashirama defeated him. And why can't Hashirama have special techniques? Because he's not an Uchiha? U_U

Thought gods were immortal. I can assure you that madara and hashirama both go to the toilet the same way that you and i do xd. Also hashirama has special powers. Hasnt the manga made that clear?
 

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I'm sure if Hashirama could figure a complete way around Madara Uchiha, he could find a way around Koto Amatsukami.

It is easy to find a way around a technique that requires eye contact. Ka does not require that.
 

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Thought gods were immortal. I can assure you that madara and hashirama both go to the toilet the same way that you and i do xd. Also hashirama has special powers. Hasnt the manga made that clear?

LOL I don't call them gods. And I know he has special skills, but why would people want to downgrade him by saying that he can get defeated by a mere genjutsu...

It is easy to find a way around a technique that requires eye contact. Ka does not require that.

When the manga states that Kotoamatsumaki is permanent or spammable, then you're right, but not now. Sorry...
 
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