Hashirama vs third raikage

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He can suppress chakra as shown with Kisame, he can likely just send him underground as a leaf from Gaara's book, he can stab him with his Lightning release cloak gone via falling asleep due to flower world... and there's so much more we can speculate on it.
 

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Even without raiton.. Does hashi have wind release? lol you guys are arguing hype but when we do you deny it.. Only 3 raikage can hurt himself via hype.. So what else?
 

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Oh really? Whats this then?
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Exactly... Still soo stong.. Saying his normal body can't beat through trees? This is now a fight of who will outlast who.
 

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Even if hashi puts raikage to sleep his, hashi still cant damage him

So.. Putting someone to sleep is winning? LOLOL. No sir he would wake up and destroy the forrest and the fight would go on until one of them passed out... My money is on them both passing out. :D Hashi being senju but raikage can fight for 3 days..

You're kidding right? Yea Hashirama is going to stand there and watch him sleep right? Once he's asleep he cant be killed in oh so many ways. Explosive tags in his stomach, poison etc. Also as I said before, Temari's wind jutsu cut him slightly when he wasnt using his raiton shield meaning he can be hurt without it. His skin might be as hard as iron but remember this is the ninja world we're talking about. They have jutsus that can break iron into pieces.
 

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Really?

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Hashirama was able to defend against that and I doubt Hell's stab is any better attack.

Im not sure if he actually defended against that. He probably just found a way to dodge it.
 

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I feel like your one of the many members who are really smart when it comes to vs threads

Thanks but you created a vs thread basically based on hype and not necessarily on abilities and on hype hashirama wins. We dont know enough of each others abilities to give a reasonable verdict.

For somebody who took on 10000 ninja's and fought for 3 days and 3 nights you must be stuck on stupid to say hashirama beats him with low diff;

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Who fought the 8 tails, the 3rd strongest tailed beasts, cut off all its tails and drew with it you must be struck on stupid to say he loses with low diff;

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It was said that only a high calibre fuuton technique could hurt him and Rasengan shuriken is the highest calibre fuuton jutsu in the manga and yet it didnt damage him;
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SO there you go. Hahshirama is a doton, mokuton and suiton user, he doesnt have a futton jutsu or any attack that we know so far that will damage the third. However we have seen that the third infact has the advantage from what we have seen.

Raiton > doton and we have seen this, but to refresh your memory;

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The manga doesnt say raiton > mokuton but we have seen that raiton has gotten the better of mokuton here;
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Whilst the manga doesnt state that raiton > suiton, kishi scraps on basic science, like water > fire. Anway we have seen this raiton has the advantage over suiton;

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Its not very hard to grasp why suigetsu asked whether he was weak against raiton.

As you can see if you go on abilities its a tricky tie. Hashirama doesnt have any abilities so far which could hard the 3rd raikage and infact id give the elementary advantage to the 3rd raikage as stated above and as its been said a futton jutsu is what is needed to hurt him, hashirama doesnt have this. We dont have any info on the 3rd raikage's black lightning jutsu's but that will cause trouble along with his endurance, speed and phsyicality you must be rather lacking in the common sense department to say he loses with low diff;

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People might state the Mokuton: Kajukai Korin as the way to defeat the third raikage and thats holds water but at the same time its no a certain victory because as we have seen people can regain conciousness and somebody like the 3rd raikage is one possibly one of these people. Even when conscious, hashirama hasnt shown an ability to damage his body. The raikage could then destroy that technique;

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Low diff for Hashirama?, prescribe me whatever you are on.
If hashirama was to take it he will take it with High diff
 

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Exactly... Still soo stong.. Saying his normal body can't beat through trees? This is now a fight of who will outlast who.

Thats Yamato's wood tho. Hashirama's held the the whole kyubi. The 4th Raikage shouldnt be that much of a problem.
 

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You're kidding right? Yea Hashirama is going to stand there and watch him sleep right? Once he's asleep he cant be killed in oh so many ways. Explosive tags in his stomach, poison etc. Also as I said before, Temari's wind jutsu cut him slightly when he wasnt using his raiton shield meaning he can be hurt without it. His skin might be as hard as iron but remember this is the ninja world we're talking about. They have jutsus that can break iron into pieces.

ONLY WIND AFFINITY CAN HURT HIM ACCORDING TO THE MANGA. EXPLOSIVE TAG? NOPE NOT WIND. POISON? NOPE CANT GET INTO HIS SKIN.. You act as if he would stay asleep for days.. I have shown he has will. I am telling you kishi said when raiton is up only himself can hurt him. When it is down ONLY wind can.. So i do not see your point. Manga said all of this now you are arguing against the manga.. ALso poison? LOL. Because Hashi is known for his poison.. This is getting ridiculous. Read Blazes up there
 
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Hashi wins. Don't need to physically harm him to beat him
 

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Oh really? Whats this then?
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That's Kisame being a ****ing boss. However, the bottom right panel proves you wrong so idk why you even linked that
Thanks but you created a vs thread basically based on hype and not necessarily on abilities and on hype hashirama wins. We dont know enough of each others abilities to give a reasonable verdict.

For somebody who took on 10000 ninja's and fought for 3 days and 3 nights you must be stuck on stupid to say hashirama beats him with low diff;

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Who fought the 8 tails, the 3rd strongest tailed beasts, cut off all its tails and drew with it you must be struck on stupid to say he loses with low diff;

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It was said that only a high calibre fuuton technique could hurt him and Rasengan shuriken is the highest calibre fuuton jutsu in the manga and yet it didnt damage him;
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SO there you go. Hahshirama is a doton, mokuton and suiton user, he doesnt have a futton jutsu or any attack that we know so far that will damage the third. However we have seen that the third infact has the advantage from what we have seen.

Raiton > doton and we have seen this, but to refresh your memory;

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The manga doesnt say raiton > mokuton but we have seen that raiton has gotten the better of mokuton here;
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Whilst the manga doesnt state that raiton > suiton, kishi scraps on basic science, like water > fire. Anway we have seen this raiton has the advantage over suiton;

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Its not very hard to grasp why suigetsu asked whether he was weak against raiton.

As you can see if you go on abilities its a tricky tie. Hashirama doesnt have any abilities so far which could hard the 3rd raikage and infact id give the elementary advantage to the 3rd raikage as stated above and as its been said a futton jutsu is what is needed to hurt him, hashirama doesnt have this. We dont have any info on the 3rd raikage's black lightning jutsu's but that will cause trouble along with his endurance, speed and phsyicality you must be rather lacking in the common sense department to say he loses with low diff;

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People might state the Mokuton: Kajukai Korin as the way to defeat the third raikage and thats holds water but at the same time its no a certain victory because as we have seen people can regain conciousness and somebody like the 3rd raikage is one possibly one of these people. Even when conscious, hashirama hasnt shown an ability to damage his body. The raikage could then destroy that technique;

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Low diff for Hashirama?, prescribe me whatever you are on.
If hashirama was to take it he will take it with High diff
Damn man I don't usually outright say how BS posts are but...Mokuton=/=Regular Wood lol, and fighting 10,000 fodder=/=being greater than hashirama. He fought the 8 tails? Oh really how nice, come back to me when he made all 9 his bitch.
 

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That's Kisame being a ****ing boss. However, the bottom right panel proves you wrong so idk why you even linked that

Damn man I don't usually outright say how BS posts are but...Mokuton=/=Regular Wood lol, and fighting 10,000 fodder=/=being greater than hashirama. He fought the 8 tails? Oh really how nice, come back to me when he made all 9 his bitch.

.. Suppressing is nothing compared to fighting.. lol just done with you.
 

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ONLY WIND AFFINITY CAN HURT HIM ACCORDING TO THE MANGA. EXPLOSIVE TAG? NOPE NOT WIND. POISON? NOPE CANT GET INTO HIS SKIN.. You act as if he would stay asleep for days.. I have shown he has will. I am telling you kishi said when raiton is up only himself can hurt him. When it is down ONLY wind can.. So i do not see your point. Manga said all of this now you are arguing against the manga.. ALso poison? LOL. Because Hashi is known for his poison.. This is getting ridiculous. Read Blazes up there

LOL you're not very creative. The man is asleep. You can force poison or explosive tags down his throat. A gaseous poison like Hanzu's will work as well. The manga doesnt say anything about him being immune to poison. Who said anything about cutting his skin. I doubt even he will survive an explosion in his stomach.
 

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Ever since you admitted to being a troll but also seeing as you lack common sense i dont reply to you, dont take this personally because there are only a handful of people i reply to. Reason why i stated his feats was to show that, he isnt losing with low diff. Secondly you stated hashirama defeated the fox, but he didnt. He wrestled the control of the fox from madara anyway im done here
 

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LOL you're not very creative. The man is asleep. You can force poison or explosive tags down his throat. A gaseous poison like Hanzu's will work as well. The manga doesnt say anything about him being immune to poison. Who said anything about cutting his skin. I doubt even he will survive an explosion in his stomach.

You act as if Hashi would be right beside him when he casts Mukoton.. And as if hashi is immune if he run into it and inhales it who says he wont fall asleep? What tells you how long Raikage would fall asleep? Nothing. A bunch of not even logical assumptions and not even arguing the counters put forth. I am done with you as well. There is no proof on either side.
 

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.. Suppressing is nothing compared to fighting.. lol just done with you.

I didn't say it was or it would even hold a use, I just wanted to show off Kisame's awesomeness.
 

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Thanks but you created a vs thread basically based on hype and not necessarily on abilities and on hype hashirama wins. We dont know enough of each others abilities to give a reasonable verdict.

For somebody who took on 10000 ninja's and fought for 3 days and 3 nights you must be stuck on stupid to say hashirama beats him with low diff;

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Who fought the 8 tails, the 3rd strongest tailed beasts, cut off all its tails and drew with it you must be struck on stupid to say he loses with low diff;

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It was said that only a high calibre fuuton technique could hurt him and Rasengan shuriken is the highest calibre fuuton jutsu in the manga and yet it didnt damage him;
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SO there you go. Hahshirama is a doton, mokuton and suiton user, he doesnt have a futton jutsu or any attack that we know so far that will damage the third. However we have seen that the third infact has the advantage from what we have seen.

Raiton > doton and we have seen this, but to refresh your memory;

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The manga doesnt say raiton > mokuton but we have seen that raiton has gotten the better of mokuton here;
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Whilst the manga doesnt state that raiton > suiton, kishi scraps on basic science, like water > fire. Anway we have seen this raiton has the advantage over suiton;

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Its not very hard to grasp why suigetsu asked whether he was weak against raiton.

As you can see if you go on abilities its a tricky tie. Hashirama doesnt have any abilities so far which could hard the 3rd raikage and infact id give the elementary advantage to the 3rd raikage as stated above and as its been said a futton jutsu is what is needed to hurt him, hashirama doesnt have this. We dont have any info on the 3rd raikage's black lightning jutsu's but that will cause trouble along with his endurance, speed and phsyicality you must be rather lacking in the common sense department to say he loses with low diff;

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People might state the Mokuton: Kajukai Korin as the way to defeat the third raikage and thats holds water but at the same time its no a certain victory because as we have seen people can regain conciousness and somebody like the 3rd raikage is one possibly one of these people. Even when conscious, hashirama hasnt shown an ability to damage his body. The raikage could then destroy that technique;

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Low diff for Hashirama?, prescribe me whatever you are on.
If hashirama was to take it he will take it with High diff

Nice post.
 

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Err, yeah I'd say base Naruto could stomp Deidara but that's unrelated. How is that even ABC logic? Because Naruto can beat 3 tomoe Sasuke?

I'm not using ABC Logic, I'm backing it up with facts. 1. Hashirama is above the "puny game" which is toying with the kages. Fact. 2. Madara alone screws the map up, with Hashirama it will be even worse(Hashirama is on Madaras level easily). fact. 3. Madara easily mountain busts with a swipe of his swords and Hashirama beat it. Fact.

This is all that's needed, no ABC logic here. Hashirama stomps with ease. Raikage has no counter to Bringer of Darkness or flower world.
Naruto wouldnt win because he doesn't have Raiton. That's the only thing that if effective against Deidara's explosions.

If you think he would win easy, then read Blaze Release's post. Everything you need is there for you
 

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You act as if Hashi would be right beside him when he casts Mukoton.. And as if hashi is immune if he run into it and inhales it who says he wont fall asleep? What tells you how long Raikage would fall asleep? Nothing. A bunch of not even logical assumptions and not even arguing the counters put forth. I am done with you as well. There is no proof on either side.
LOL how long does one have to be asleep to force something down his throat? Even a minute will do. And as for Hashi getting affected by his own jutsu he can just have a clone bring the Raikage to him or even use wood. Yes we don't have all the info but Hashirama actually has one of the few jutsus the third wont be able to counter i.e flower world and bringer of darkness genjutsu.
And am done with you as well. Good riddance.
 

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Naruto wouldnt win because he doesn't have Raiton. That's the only thing that if effective against Deidara's explosions.

If you think he would win easy, then read Blaze Release's post. Everything you need is there for you
So anyone without raiton loses to Deidara? You don't have to have Riaton to counter his explosions, he'll never get a chance to use them. He can't take on 1,000 giant Chou Odama Rasengans flying his way blotting out the sun. No explosion he has will stop Naruto from utterly annihilating him.

And I already replied to Blaze Release's post, it gave me a good laugh for the day I suppose
 
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