So anyone without raiton loses to Deidara? You don't have to have Riaton to counter his explosions, he'll never get a chance to use them. He can't take on 1,000 giant Chou Odama Rasengans flying his way blotting out the sun. No explosion he has will stop Naruto from utterly annihilating him.
And I already replied to Blaze Release's post, it gave me a good laugh for the day I suppose
So anyone without raiton loses to Deidara? You don't have to have Riaton to counter his explosions, he'll never get a chance to use them. He can't take on 1,000 giant Chou Odama Rasengans flying his way blotting out the sun. No explosion he has will stop Naruto from utterly annihilating him.
And I already replied to Blaze Release's post, it gave me a good laugh for the day I suppose
Let's see what happens to the 3rd Raikage if he fights Hashirama
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Yeah put the 3rd in the stead of the golem,and you can have a picture of how the battle ends
Also,for the 1st to guarantee his victory he can simply use his Kokuangyo no Jutsu to block the raikage's line of sight,then follow with a Korin Kajukai to put him to sleep,and then enclose him like the golem,thus killing him
flower tree world.
~plp will instantly bring up the pollen issue, this is false yes it has the ability to plp its victims to sleep but it doesnt mean it would work on every single opponent especially a man like 3rd raikage who has high endurance and durability.
honestly a man fighting 10000 enemies for 3 days and 3 nights lose to some pollen?rofl...
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flower tree world would be annihilated by 3rd raikage
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if enma can brake through hashirama's forest just imagine what hellstab can do? plus his black lightning.
hashirama's wood release would get countered by 3rd raikage's raiton since sasuke was able to counter yamato's wood release in early shippuden also.
flower tree world.
~plp will instantly bring up the pollen issue, this is false yes it has the ability to plp its victims to sleep but it doesnt mean it would work on every single opponent especially a man like 3rd raikage who has high endurance and durability.
honestly a man fighting 10000 enemies for 3 days and 3 nights lose to some pollen?rofl...
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flower tree world would be annihilated by 3rd raikage
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if enma can brake through hashirama's forest just imagine what hellstab can do? plus his black lightning.
hashirama's wood release would get countered by 3rd raikage's raiton since sasuke was able to counter yamato's wood release in early shippuden also.
It's not "lol pollen?" but it's an extremely deadly jutsu where if you breathe it you're unconscious. I'm sure none of the 10,000 fodder used a technique like that. Raikage will have no idea what it does, he doesn't know it even exists. He can cut through Mokuton but he'll breathe it, he'd die.
And he has shown no genjutsu resistance, 1 basic genjutsu from Madara froze A in his tracks. I imagine bringer of darkness putting him out of commission entirely or very very similar while Hashirama barrages him from the outside of the genjutsu. Particularly considering Yamato's ability to hold back the KN4 so Hashirama will naturally be able to do the same. There isn't much 3rd Raikage can do.
Keep in mind I'm bearing with the people who don't exactly understand the gigantic power level difference here, and I think Hashirama stomps with very very very low difficulty and has the capability to destroy every single Kage that has ever existed at once.
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i wasnt being sarcastic, i love your posts because their funny, i even gave you a rep
Thanks but you created a vs thread basically based on hype and not necessarily on abilities and on hype hashirama wins. We dont know enough of each others abilities to give a reasonable verdict.
1.) For somebody who took on 10000 ninja's and fought for 3 days and 3 nights you must be stuck on stupid to say hashirama beats him with low diff;
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2.)Who fought the 8 tails, the 3rd strongest tailed beasts, cut off all its tails and drew with it you must be struck on stupid to say he loses with low diff;
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It was said that only a high calibre fuuton technique could hurt him and Rasengan shuriken is the highest calibre fuuton jutsu in the manga and yet it didnt damage him;
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SO there you go. Hahshirama is a doton, mokuton and suiton user, he doesnt have a futton jutsu or any attack that we know so far that will damage the third. However we have seen that the third infact has the advantage from what we have seen.
Raiton > doton and we have seen this, but to refresh your memory;
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3.) The manga doesnt say raiton > mokuton but we have seen that raiton has gotten the better of mokuton here;
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Whilst the manga doesnt state that raiton > suiton, kishi scraps on basic science, like water > fire. Anway we have seen this raiton has the advantage over suiton;
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Its not very hard to grasp why suigetsu asked whether he was weak against raiton.
As you can see if you go on abilities its a tricky tie. 4.) Hashirama doesnt have any abilities so far which could hard the 3rd raikage and infact id give the elementary advantage to the 3rd raikage as stated above and as its been said a futton jutsu is what is needed to hurt him, hashirama doesnt have this. We dont have any info on the 3rd raikage's black lightning jutsu's but that will cause trouble along with his endurance, speed and phsyicality you must be rather lacking in the common sense department to say he loses with low diff;
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5.) People might state the Mokuton: Kajukai Korin as the way to defeat the third raikage and thats holds water but at the same time its no a certain victory because as we have seen people can regain conciousness and somebody like the 3rd raikage is one possibly one of these people. Even when conscious, hashirama hasnt shown an ability to damage his body. The raikage could then destroy that technique;
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Low diff for Hashirama?, prescribe me whatever you are on.
If hashirama was to take it he will take it with High diff
1.) it's an impressive feat, but 10000 fodder ninja? I'm mee impressed with the number of people fought, not the skill.
2.) hashi fought the strongest tailed beast as well as the others, gained control of them and distributed them amongst the hidden villages. He's no stranger to fighting bijuu.
3.) you can't compare yamatos wood release power to hashis because it is stated that yamatos wood release is far weaker than hashis
4.) he has genjutsu and his advent of the world of flowering trees or whatever it's called (that you mentioned later) that can knock him out called. They don't do physical harm, but they do lower his defenses a bit.
5.) it holds water, but it's not a water technique. We've never seen (Atleast I haven't) anyone recover from inhaling the pollen and we can't assume the raikage can do so.
I agree the first won't win low diff, but I don't think these are valid points to say why he won't. I think it comes down to the raikages stamina more so than anything else i.e. his strength, speed and defense.
OT: People, contrary to popular belief, CAN put up fights with Hashirama! This would actually be a very close fight. Hashirama can't do any major damage to the 3rd (took a Rasenshuriken and a Hell Stab to the chest) and the 3rd might have trouble speeding over to Hashirama (Mokuton defenses). And then there's Raikage being able to pretty much dodge most of Hashirama's attacks (unless Hashirama goes head-on like Naruto did), except for BOD. But I guess I'd say Hashirama high difficulty.
Lol what? Last I checked the knowledge was manga or none unless otherwise stated and it was never said 3rd Raikage has any possible way to have had knowledge of it beforehand, this is bullshit speculation and blatant baseless assumption on your part. Don't tell me "way to assume shit"
he breathes it, he dies.
one EMS genjutsu from the strongest uchiha ever you mean
Cool, where's 3rd Raikage's genjutsu resistance to any genjutsu at all? There isn't any? Ok, he gets put in Bringer of Darkness, a genjutsu by a person whose power was so great it was like the Rikudo Sage, and beat Perfect Susano'o EMS Madara.
Anyone who thinks 3rd Raikage wins is horribly misinformed, using stupid logic, a fanboy, in denial, hates Hashirama, or very similar because anyone who's comprehended the manga should be able to tell it's quite black and white: Hashirama fodderizes.
Hashirama would win mid difficulty. The Third Raikage is a close range fighter and therefore is susceptible to bringer of darkness. He has shown no counters to that technique. However, even a blind third Raikage poses a serious threat to Hashirama.
This would mean the only way to defeat him would be to bury him under some trees or choke him to death. Not an easy task like some Hashi fanboys are claiming to be.
Take away bringer of darkness and I can see even the Third Raikage beating Hashirama, however, without that advantage he has no chance to beat Shodaime.
I also find it funny that people think Hashirama has some type of fuuton attack up his sleeve especially one which is stronger than a wind specialist's attack.
why is everyone saying hashirama low diffcult we have not seen him fight a single fight yet other than the one he got beat in by hiruzen.
Raikage high diffcult when I actually seen a fight with hashirama doing all the things his hype says he can I will change my choice. p.s the 3rd raikage fought the 8tail many times and seal it up so he is up their in that level of strength.
Kai handsign or disrupting chakra. any jounin level ninja can break genjutsu that isn't named koto amatsukami, toad confrontation chant or tsukiyomi. that is a fact
Ok, he gets put in Bringer of Darkness, a genjutsu by a person whose power was so great it was like the Rikudo Sage, and beat Perfect Susano'o EMS Madara.
no it wasnt like rikudo sage or he wouldnt have gotten his face all messed up fighting EMS madara. we dont know if he beat perfect susano or just waited till madara ran out of stamina. we dont know what happened! if i told you sasuke beat itachi with all of itachis abilities, id be right but i wouldnt be taking into account all the other factors that led to that. we dont know what the factors were of that fight.
also darkness is virtually useless if the ninja has a good sense of hearing or otherwise good durability. kenpachi fought without his sight or hearing by countering attacks the second they touch him. and kenpachi has a similar fighting style to the raikage so its a valid example.