Perfect Susanoo needs Rinnegan

[Akatsuki wise guy]

Did he not state he could have used that agaisnt muu and onoki but doesnt use that power against a child. And he said he used it to destroy the battlefield between in his fight with hashirama.

 

[Unorthodox]

Madara didn't have the rinnegan when fighting hashirama, so why would tsunade question if he faught against that susano'o, and why would madara know that hashirama could still beat him...? I believe it's just an EMS technique. Also he uses every other form of his susano'o using the rinnegan, so IF the "perfect" susano'o is a rinnegan tech, then all other forms are as well.

this people are just blind i agree with you ^

 

[TheItachiUchiha]

Guys Sai can just draw himself a perfect Susano'o

 

[dareak]

Madara says that Hashirama was the only one who could stop him, so he is saying that Hashirama can stop this form. Which must mean he had it before.

Also, if the Rinnegan is the final form of the Sharingan then Nagato should've been able to use MS/EMS techs.

 

[Super Kami Guru]

this people are just blind i agree with you ^

wait whose blind.... because he didnt have rinnegan in the battle but we also dont know what techs he had in that battle just ems... and he lost and got the 1sts dna is all we know....

 

[Hatake Senju]

wait whose blind.... because he didnt have rinnegan in the battle but we also dont know what techs he had in that battle just ems... and he lost and got the 1sts dna is all we know....

Agreed. And Hasirama overcoming the Kyuubi and a perfect susanoo combined seems just way too OP in my opinion.

 

[Super Kami Guru]

my thoughts exactly but i cant get you more +rep atm hahahah

 

[kotoamatsukami]

yet again context where does he say i had these powers or not? he doesnt hash beat him and he got hash's dna is all we know from that fight he hasnt admitted to having or not having any abilities

I'm done talking to u I guess ur Wat they call a troll..y make this thread if u don't have real proff urself?

 

[Super Kami Guru]

I'm done talking to u I guess ur Wat they call a troll..y make this thread if u don't have real proff urself?

dude seriously... my original post has a bunch of ideas linked to manga i spend like 6 pages disputing other points but i guess that means im providing no proof and talking out my butt

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Agreed. And Hasirama overcoming the Kyuubi and a perfect susanoo combined seems just way too OP in my opinion.

That's y kabuto said some people thought his power was a fairy tale dats just how strong he was.

 

[Hatake Senju]

my thoughts exactly but i cant get you more +rep atm hahahah

Ahahahaha next go around then

 

[Hatake Senju]

That's y kabuto said some people thought his power was a fairy tale dats just how strong he was.

Until Madara says so, it didnt happen. He could say so in the next chapter or so... But going off of Kabuto's word when you have someone who really fought him in the midst is incomparable.

 

[Super Kami Guru]

i mean we dont know what techniques hash or madara really had in that fight this that are facts from that fight are madara lost and he acquired hashs dna

 

[kotoamatsukami]

dude seriously... my original post has a bunch of ideas linked to manga i spend like 6 pages disputing other points but i guess that means im providing no proof and talking out my butt

Wat but u don't have real proof u did not see the fight between him an the first u don't kno Wat went down...I already gave u my proof he already had it an that was him telling tsunade the 1st is the only 1 Dat can stop him an like I said if he did not us PS I'm their fight an he still claims the 1st can beat him then the first did not even break a sweat when they fought.

 

[Super Kami Guru]

Wat but u don't have real proof u did not see the fight between him an the first u don't kno Wat went down...I already gave u my proof he already had it an that was him telling tsunade the 1st is the only 1 Dat can stop him an like I said if he did not us PS I'm their fight an he still claims the 1st can beat him then the first did not even break a sweat when they fought.

so youre ignoring my points with links to manga..... i agree he says first is only one capable of defeating him. And madara almost died in that fight infact most of the world thought he was dead from that fight.... im saying he didnt have PS in the fight and from that fight all that matters is he lost and got 1sts cells. They fought several times anyways that fight wasnt the first so hash and madara knew all about each others

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Until Madara says so, it didnt happen. He could say so in the next chapter or so... But going off of Kabuto's word when you have someone who really fought him in the midst is incomparable.

He already gave u an answer by Wat he told tsunade...an how would madara kno of PS anyway if he did not even use it be4? When itachi said it grants the user 1 new power up thats Probly Wat he was talking bout an days y he said madara was able to take over other countries.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

so youre ignoring my points with links to manga..... i agree he says first is only one capable of defeating him. And madara almost died in that fight infact most of the world thought he was dead from that fight.... im saying he didnt have PS in the fight and from that fight all that matters is he lost and got 1sts cells. They fought several times anyways that fight wasnt the first so hash and madara knew all about each others

I'm pretty sure the last time they fought was when he got ems manga shows that it self. like I already said u have no clue on how that fight went down so yea u got no real proof. At least ur trying just like I told da other guy PS is most likely the 1 new power up itachi was telling sasuke about.

 

[Hatake Senju]

He already gave u an answer by Wat he told tsunade...an how would madara kno of PS anyway if he did not even use it be4? When itachi said it grants the user 1 new power up thats Probly Wat he was talking bout an days y he said madara was able to take over other countries.

What he told Tsunade is really irrelevant in the fact that he has said the same line more than once to different questions.

The answer to your second question is the Uchiha tablet, which the 3rd section is only readable by rinnegan eyes. Lots of Uchiha secret information there.

And lastly Itachi only knew how to obtain EMS. He seemed to know nothing further of obtaining a rinnegan. And Madara was able to take over countries because he was feared and one of the strongest shinobi of all time. Not because he got 1 power-up.

 

[MCEAPROGAMER]

A uchiha blood with rinnegan make perfect susano .

 

[ReXii]

I know this thread has been made thousands of times in the last two weeks but im sick of people ignoring facts. The rinnegan is the next evolution of sharingan as state by kabuto here and next page madara proves it true:

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Also for those who say well madara is just using rinnegan but it's an ems tech and narutopedia says so i will now post parts of the manga from madara fighting clearly show him switching between different eyes to use different techs:
Page 1: Madara has been using final form susanoo an ems tech but as he sees he's going to be hit he switchs to rinnegan

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Page 2:Madara uses Chibaku Tensei to create giant meteor or atleast pull them in clearly same tech kishi is getting lazy with saying jutsu name aka he spams "sharingan genjutsu"

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Page 3: 5 kage fight madara's wood clones with susanoo all using susanoo.... and madara uses a sharingan gen on the raikage WITH THE EMS:

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Page 4: Madara awakens perfect susanoo with the rinnegan activated:

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Also if rinnegan is the final evolution of the sharingan IT IS TECHINQUELY A SHARINGAN so saying well its and ems tech seriously just doesnt work. Why would the wood clones be using ems if they could just have rinnegan open to use those techs and original madara is just standing there with rinnegan activated?

Inconclusive evidence, Also madara stated to beat the perfect susanoo hashirama would have needed to be alive, As he also stated he awaked rinnegan after the fight with hashirama.
Therefore he must have had perfect susanoo with the EMS to have used it against hashirama to know that hashirama could defeat it.