Is perfect susanoo stronger than a bijuu?

[Shiny Scrafty]

between the nine tails and perfect Susanoo, it would be a draw. vs the lesser tailed beasts. No Perfect Susanoo would crush them.

No, Nine Tails would beat him. Perfect Susano-o could probably beat 1 Tailed - 5 Tails. After that, it's a draw until he reaches 8 - 9 Tails.

 

[Shiny Scrafty]

Let's go out on a limb and say that PS is indeed stronger than a bijuu.

Let's say that Madara used PS along with aid from the kyuubi in the fight with Hashirama.

Does this mean that Hashirama is stronger than the strongest Uchiha technique ever known (stronger than 8 or 9 tails) and the kyuubi at the same time?

I'm inclined to think NOT. What seems more realistic is that PS is comparable to a few bijuu (not necessarily the 8 or 9 tails). Also, PS I would infer is a Uchiha kekkei genkai only obtainable through the rinnegan. Hence we dont see Itachi or Sasuke using PS. Therefore, Madara did not use PS in his fight with Hashirama and it was obtained afterwards. That gives Hashi a more believable win over Madara.

My 2 cents.

We don't know all of Hashirama's strength yet.
You can hop off of Madara's dicck until we find out Hasirama's OP moves.

I'll take your 2 cents.

 

[Unorthodox]

yes it is correct

 

[Hatake Senju]

We don't know all of Hashirama's strength yet.
You can hop off of Madara's dicck until we find out Hasirama's OP moves.

I'll take your 2 cents.

You have plenty of Hashirama's OP moves or haven't you been reading the manga? YOU can hop off of Hashirama's **** and come back down to earth. Hashirama BARELY beat Madara with Kurama. Not the other way around and he didn't OP Madara either.

 

[Link Hero Of Time]

it is stronger the 9 tails and naruto.

 

[immortal sage]

Let's go out on a limb and say that PS is indeed stronger than a bijuu.

Let's say that Madara used PS along with aid from the kyuubi in the fight with Hashirama.

Does this mean that Hashirama is stronger than the strongest Uchiha technique ever known (stronger than 8 or 9 tails) and the kyuubi at the same time?

I'm inclined to think NOT. What seems more realistic is that PS is comparable to a few bijuu (not necessarily the 8 or 9 tails). Also, PS I would infer is a Uchiha kekkei genkai only obtainable through the rinnegan. Hence we dont see Itachi or Sasuke using PS. Therefore, Madara did not use PS in his fight with Hashirama and it was obtained afterwards. That gives Hashi a more believable win over Madara.

My 2 cents.

you dont need rinnagen for ps the only reason saskue and itachi dont posses it is bacause itachi didnt have ems and therfore could not practice using soosano as much as madera who had ems and saskue doesent posses perfect soosano because he just got ems and needs more practice and experience in using it [perfect soosano is a tech that comes from ems not rinnagen or els nagato would have used it]

 

[Hatake Senju]

But I said uchiha kekkei genkai. Not just rinnegan. But an uchiha with a rinnegan. Hence Tobi will probably be able to use it (he said he was Madara). And if Tobi gives his to Sasuke, he will be able to use it.

 

[teetooktier]

I'm pretty much convinced than Perfect Susano'o is EMS, because if it's not Sasuke will get dumped on by Naruto when they fight. As for the translations, we haven't seen enough of PS to make the call yet. He's literally just unsheathed his sword.

That said, people don't seem to realize that PS cleanly cut the mountains without ever touching them with its sword. That attack may not have as much area-of-effect destructive power as TBB, but it is extremely focused along the cutting line. Getting hit with the actual blade? I'm pretty sure it can cut through anything. For comparison, I didn't see the mountains near the TBB clash getting affected.

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So yeah, in combat between PS and a Bijuu or Gedo Mazo, keep in mind that if any of them get hit with PS's sword, they are getting cut in half. In fact, seeing as Sasuke managed to cut through the eight-tail's tentacle with his lightning sword, it's not a stretch to imagine PS slicing up the Bijuu, and (though very unlikely) Gedo Mazo from a distance.

Finally, remember that the third Raikage is near to the 8 Tails in power. They tied in solo combat. You're telling me PS = or < Third Raikage?

 

[hit a lick]

yea it is. madara treated the nine tails like a pet just imagine what he did to the others or what he can do. but on the tablet it says something about the fox and uchihas theres a connection so he went after that. senju hashirama was stronger than madara just imaagine the wood style he'd do

 

[Rafeal brown]

But Kurama is more powerful than 5 Bijuus... so Kurama > Perfect Susano'o = BM Naruto > Madara

has it ever occurred to you that kurama is a bijuu?? 0_0

 

[EternalSage]

They are equal in strength.

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

Perfect Susanoo imo on par with kurama. But a stabilized Kurama as in "BM Naruto" is greater than Perfect Susanoo..... I have my reasons U_U

has it ever occurred to you that kurama is a bijuu?? 0_0

Yes Kurma is a Bijuu, but the Bijuu among them self's have different traits/personalities.
It like saying every dogs the same, but each carry their own traits. In saying that, yes kurama is a Bijuu but they have certain traits which differentiate them from each other.

 

[DBZ]

Nothing is stronger than kurama + naruto.. I repeat NOTHING. That includes perfect susanoo, rinnengan, wood techs, s/t ninjutsu..

thatz only bkuz naruto iz the main character who in the hell iz gonna b stronger than the main character perfect susanoo iz stronger than any regular bijuu 10 tailz though cant say havnt seen it yet dont know if were ever gonna c it madara was juzt saying that the only power that u could compare the perfect susanoo too iz a bijuu because there so strong then he goes to say that it iz stronger than any bijuu i think madara would know since he controled kurama way before naruto left hiz daddy nutsack lmao:flaw: and isnt kurama the strongezt bijuu the more tailz u have the more power atleast thatz what i got from the manga

 

[CrimsonH4ze]

lol stronger than shukaku's useless ass yeah sure why not.
stronger than kurama? never.

so in some ways yes, while in others, never.

 

[DonUchiha671]

Didn't hashirama fight madara's perfect susanoo in the final valley? which was before madara got rinnengan. so how is rinnengan required to unlock perfect susanoo?

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

It's comparable to 1 TB,manga never said it's stronger.
btw Kyubi took 5-6 TB alone .

Kyubi >>>> perfect susanoo

In what world did this happen?Kurama deflect the combine tail beast ball of four bijuus, but that isn't taking them on alone;especialy, since the majority of the fight was fought by Bee and Gyuki.

 

[Jonesy161]

lol its no

Your username and signatures are contradictions... Just saying...

And I highly doubt "Perfect" Susano'o is as strong or stronger than the Bijuu. Madara has never laid eyes on the Bijuu meaning he doesn't know the extent to it's actual power. Also, the Tailed Beasts are pure chakra from the Bijuu, meaning, they will never die, just regenerate constantly. "Perfect" Susano'o can't last forever, it will give and the caster will die unless they can seal the tailed beasts.

I'd say the only advantage Susano'o gives over a tailed beast is the capability to perform hand signs to cast jutsus.

 

[Rainman]

I think that PS is better than tailed beasts, but is equal to them combined. All bijuu= life-force. PS= creating something out of nothing. I think that madara can create something out of nothing, but even with hashi's DNA cannot breathe life into it.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

I mean considering how arrogant Madara is, he could have just been hyping up his own technique.

Also, they did not specify which tailed beast we are talking about.

Is this about Naruto? Deep down there are variables, such as the power between a Jinchuuriki in control of their beast and whatnot. Madara knows Kurama's capabilities, but not within a host. We also don't know if Kurama let this bad mother****er out around Madara...

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And that was being at half power, along with his chakra taken from him.

 

[kimbo]

Nothing is stronger than kurama + naruto.. I repeat NOTHING. That includes perfect susanoo, rinnengan, wood techs, s/t ninjutsu..

This hahah