Is perfect susanoo stronger than a bijuu?

[Ame no Murakumo]

Maybe upto 4 or 5 tails. But don't forget that Madara has Hashirama's chakra, which should theoritically give susanoo more physical strength.

 

[kellzfresh]

Made this thread earlier before this one but it got deleted, don't know why but most pple said *********** is right

 

[Kakagaishi]

They matched up pretty well back when kurama and Hashi fought Madara. Who knows what'll happen to the bijuus after the war... maybe naruto will take control of them. Sasuke is gonna unlock perfect susanoo one way or another, its a given. it will be interesting to see how they fight at that level, redrawing the map as madara put it. imagine a giant Nine-Tails Chakra Mode naruto battling against sasuke's perfect susanoo...

 

[OopsWrongHole]

1. The reason I believe Madara will not disppear is because Muu summoned him.

Yes Kabuto summoned him before to scare Tobi but it was Muu who summoned him at the battlefield, so Muu is the last person to summon Madara.

Muu will disappear but Madara will be able to do what he likes now.

I do not know if the Edo Tensei technique gives the Edo summons limitless chakra.

Or if Madara will become weaker due to his summoner aka Muu being unsummoned due to Kabuto releasing the Edo Tensei Jutsu.

However if Madara were to be unsummoned also because it may still count as Kabuto summoned Muu so it may work that way, then if that the case I believe Madara will use the Rinnegan Rebirth Jutsu to bring himself back to life.

I believe Madara can do this now and not before is because his in Edo Tensei Mode, Madara is dead but Madara has the ability to perform techniques, Where if you die, you're dead, you don't have the ability to perform a technique because your soul has left your body and you can not perform it if you are dying because you are still alive.

But where Madara is in Edo Tensei Mode, Madara can perform Jutsu's, Like the Rinnegan Rebirth Jutsu.

Nagato could of done the same if Nagato had control of himself because he too has that ability but of course Kishi wasn't going to let that happen.

Either way Madara is NOT disappearing in my strongest opinion because of the two reasons I've explain which is..

Muu summoned him
or
Madara uses the Rebirth Jutsu on himself

I said Nagato could perform the Rinnegan Rebirth Jutsu because Nagato too was in Edo Tensei mode but was unable to perform the Rebirth Jutsu because the whole time Kabuto had control of Nagato plus Kishi wouldn't bring him back to life.




The reason why Nagato was unable to perform it on himself when Nagato was alive during the Pein Arc is because Nagato was still alive, so he couldn't bring himself alive even though he was dying due to the chakra exhaustion, he couldn't perform it when he was dead, his soul was no longer in his body.

The reason why I said Madara can do it is because his been released from the Edo Tensei Jutsu and yes Madara dead but his soul is in a body, so Madara can perform the Rinnegan Rebirth Jutsu on the dead body because Madara is able to perform the Rinnegan Rebirth Jutsu because his in Edo Tensei Mode.

For example to explain it better, I have a GUN that can bring someone back to life by shooting them once with it.

Nagato did this with the Hidden Leaf Village right? he brought them back to life by shooting them all. (get what I'm trying to say?)

Nagato couldn't shoot himself with the gun because Nagato is still alive but once Nagato dies, Nagato soul is gone so Nagato's body is lifeless and can not pull the trigger due to that.

Madara has been brought back With Edo Tensei Jutsu, Now Madara is released from the Edo Tensei Jutsu.

He has the Rinnegan aka the Gun I'm referring to, So before Madara disappears Madara can shoot himself with the gun because Madara has control over his body because Madara is in edo mode, a walking zombie...

Does that make any sense? Yes I've repeated some stuff as some people didn't take in what I was saying.[/COLOR][/B]

 

[Hyakushiki]

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 587 Discussions and 588 Predictions
There are some things about Itachi's and Madara's Edo Tensei that I'm unsure about.

First Itachi...Right now he is under a very strong jutsu-the Kotoamatsukami,which was able to break Kabuto's control.Now we've seen emotion break the Edo Tensei against the user's will.Shouldn't we use reverse logic that a person revived by Edo Tensei could stay "alive" against the user's will if there is an emotion strong enough to keep the soul in the world of living.Since the crow's kotoamatsukami gave Itachi an order that was the idea of his lifetime it should create an emotion strong enough to break the bond between the jutsu user and the soul.So the question is : Will Itachi stay "alive" after the end of Edo Tensei?

Second comes Madara.When he was summoned to the battlefield it was Mu who summoned him.He didn't say "Edo Tensei" ,but "Kuchiyose No Jutsu!".Edo Tensei is a type of Kuchiyose so it is possible that the performer of the Edo Tensei was Mu.Now if it was Mu what would happen when Edo Tensei ends?Mu will disappear.But he won't "die" he is actually dead.Will that be the way to keep Madara on the table or will that bring the end of all Edo Tensei? Or did Mu only bring the coffin to the battlefield and it was Kabuto who performed the Edo Tensei.If so did Kabuto do something about Madara's Edo Tensei,along with giving him Hashirama's DNA that would make it impossible to end the jutsu even by the caster? Or will Madara on his own be able to somehow break free from the justu? He IS one mighty shinobi.He has a huge amount of chakra,EMS,Rinnegan and alot of knowledge and understanding of jutsu.

Lets hear some predictions.

Not a fanboy.No flaming please.
Last edited by Hyakushiki; 05-24-2012 at 01:19 AM..

 

[luluxiu]

She can control Bijju due to her special chakura, that's not means she is strong than Kyubi!

 

[Klubargutan]

there are many differences in translation, in fact, this one here was translated by probably hashirama's fanboy, because when 5 translators from japanese to czech agreed that madara said "hashirama was the only one, who could stand a chance against me" "could", means, when he wasnt edo nor had rinnegan....and that its said "not even the bijuu can face this"....so yes, susanoo is stronger than any current bijuu(if madara blocks tbb)

 

[Zavage10]

I think the the skillful use of the perfect susanoo can physically defeat tailed beast.

 

[Zavage10]

The perfect susanoo seem to be far larger than the tailed beast

 

[Frikid]

I think the the skillful use of the perfect susanoo can physically defeat tailed beast.

The perfect susanoo seem to be far larger than the tailed beast

please don't double post
and i disagree >.>

i think bijju > Perfect susano

 

[SasukeUchiha910]

i think tail beast = perfect susanoo

 

[Uchiha boii]

Exactly... Bijuu chakra = limitless
Perfect susanoo = users chakra

yeah but bijuu dont have limitless chakara read when kisame fights bee a perfect jinchuriki and read the chapter when itachi totskas nagato naruto after his talk with edo itachi uses to much chakara and goes back to normal

 

[Uchiha boii]

perfect sussano is probably going to = bijuu mode narutos power madaras will be enough to kill the jubbi in my opinion but sasukes will probably have badass amatertsu upgrades so that does alot to all bijuu up to the 8 tails so probably the 9 tails as well

 

[doradora]

mangatream is correct