Sasuke's logic ( Is everyone in naruto a b****)

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then imaging you have a perfect live: mother,father,brothers, sisters... all is good.

and youre an your way back home and everyone is dead. the one who did it is your brother and he is an agent from c.i.a. would you sit there and thining: well,hmm im just unlucky.

of course you would give a f*ck on everything. i understand sasuke and i would do the same thing ( to destroy konoha)
 

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No, I think he's trying to say that Sasuke's actions are understandable if you look at what he has been through. Of course him wanting to kill off the entire village can't be justified at all, but it's understandable when you take into account that he probably lives by the saying 'An eye for an eye'.
U read my opinions sasunaru, i said it many times sasuke's actions are understandable, the poor boy has suffered a lot; but what cant tolerate by the very fibre of my being that some fanboys JUSTIFIES sasuke destroying an entire village, out of which 2 are responsible and very few guilty. Also u didnt say the saying completely: "eyes for an eye will make the world go blind", thats the full saying.
 

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then imaging you have a perfect live: mother,father,brothers, sisters... all is good.

and youre an your way back home and everyone is dead. the one who did it is your brother and he is an agent from c.i.a. would you sit there and thining: well,hmm im just unlucky.

of course you would give a f*ck on everything. i understand sasuke and i would do the same thing ( to destroy konoha)
Agreed.
 

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U read my opinions sasunaru, i said it many times sasuke's actions are understandable, the poor boy has suffered a lot; but what cant tolerate by the very fibre of my being that some fanboys JUSTIFIES sasuke destroying an entire village, out of which 2 are responsible and very few guilty. Also u didnt say the saying completely: "eyes for an eye will make the world go blind", thats the full saying.
Sorry, English is not my mother language, so I didn't know the full saying :eek: I only ever heard the first part, so that's the one that stuck with me ^^;
While I do agree that some fanboys shouldn't justify his actions, I don't know for sure if this person was justifying his actions. I think he just wanted to say that most people would get as pissed off as Sasuke now.
At least after reading his post, I don't get the vibe of him justifying the actions, merely saying why he understands why Sasuke acts that way
 

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then imaging you have a perfect live: mother,father,brothers, sisters... all is good.

and youre an your way back home and everyone is dead. the one who did it is your brother and he is an agent from c.i.a. would you sit there and thining: well,hmm im just unlucky.

of course you would give a f*ck on everything. i understand sasuke and i would do the same thing ( to destroy konoha)
No u dont understand sasuke and is his fanboy. Or else explain how can u say, innocents of konoha deserves to die? Like ramen guy, asuma's child, konohamaru etc's need to die.

PS: Also imagine a pefect life, u hav mother, father, brother etc all good .... but secretly they are planning a coup and will killing a boatload of people ...... when suddenly come back and discover thay have been killed for conspiring against ur homeland.......
 
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No u dont understand sasuke and is his fanboy. Or else explain how can u say, innocents of konoha deserves to die? Like ramen guy, asuma's child, konohamaru etc's need to die.

PS: Also imagine a pefect life, u hav mother, father, brother etc all good .... but secretly they are planning a coup and killing a boatload of people...... when suddenly come back and discover thay have been killed for conspiring against ur homeland.......
dont forget that many innocent uchihas were killed, even kids and women
 

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Sorry, English is not my mother language, so I didn't know the full saying :eek: I only ever heard the first part, so that's the one that stuck with me ^^;
While I do agree that some fanboys shouldn't justify his actions, I don't know for sure if this person was justifying his actions. I think he just wanted to say that most people would get as pissed off as Sasuke now.
At least after reading his post, I don't get the vibe of him justifying the actions, merely saying why he understands why Sasuke acts that way
I understand him too, but just bcos i understand i wont say i agree. Shedding of innocent blood is a terrible crime: itachi, danzo, tobi, the elders are all guilty of that crime. Sasuke can have his revenge on the guilty but i dont want him to become a murderer like them.
PS u were not wrong 'eye for eye' is a saying but pacifists add the later part. (english is not my mother tongue too)
PPS Now i know the nearly all of uchiha clan was involved in the coup, cos think about it: if the uchiha launched an attack, there wld be a counter attack from the village and if the ppl not able fight (all the ppl who cld fight wld join the attack naturally) was not hiding somewhere safe and roaming about as in a normal day, they wld be discovered and arrested. So the whole clan more or less knew except the children.
 
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I understand him too, but just bcos i understand i wont say i agree. Shedding of innocent blood is a terrible crime: itachi, danzo, tobi, the elders are all guilty of that crime. Sasuke can have his revenge on the guilty but i dont want him to become a murderer like them.
PS u were not wrong 'eye for eye' is a saying but pacifists add the later part. (english is not my mother tongue too)
PPS Now i know the nearly all of uchiha clan was involved in the coup, cos think about it: if the uchiha launched an attack, there wld be a counter attack from the village and if the ppl not able fight (all the ppl who cld fight wld join the attack naturally) was not hiding somewhere safe and roaming about as in a normal day, they wld be discovered and arrested. So the whole clan more or less knew except the children.
I don't think Kishimoto-sensei would let it come that far. Maybe Sasuke will be able to kill the Council before Naruto stops him.
I have trouble envisioning that all the adults knew of the plan. I don't know why, but it just seems so unlikely. Of course you could be right and the adults knew of the coupe, but I can't see everyone agreeing with the plan.
 

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Sasuke = biggest crybaby in the series.

Just kill Danzo and the other elders and get over it!
Strangely enough, we have only seen him cry how many times? Two? I think Naruto cried more in the entire series, yet you call Sasuke the crybaby? *shakes head* Plus you would understand his motives a bit if you tried to understand his character. It's easy calling someone a crybaby if you don't try to understand the motives.
 

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I don't think Kishimoto-sensei would let it come that far. Maybe Sasuke will be able to kill the Council before Naruto stops him.
I have trouble envisioning that all the adults knew of the plan. I don't know why, but it just seems so unlikely. Of course you could be right and the adults knew of the coupe, but I can't see everyone agreeing with the plan.
Well think about it, if the adults went out on the coup day, doing normal things doing shopping, roaming about ..... they wld be caught or killed. Surely they wld not want that, plus they WLD need to know to keep the children and the infirm in protected areas. So this means all of the adults knew. Also, it is stated that only itachi was against the plan and spoke against it durring the clan meetings, and they had shisui follow him.
 

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Idk why everyone thinks that it is OK to slaughter a whole village for some peoples choices, If he is going to kill anyone it should just be Sarutobis 2 remaining friends or just those who were involve, cus like I said only a few people were responsible no use of killing everyone.
 

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Strangely enough, we have only seen him cry how many times? Two? I think Naruto cried more in the entire series, yet you call Sasuke the crybaby? *shakes head* Plus you would understand his motives a bit if you tried to understand his character. It's easy calling someone a crybaby if you don't try to understand the motives.
I meant crybaby as a figurative expression meaning he's doing too much complaining, which btw is way more than Naruto's doing atm.
 

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Well think about it, if the adults went out on the coup day, doing normal things doing shopping, roaming about ..... they wld be caught or killed. Surely they wld not want that, plus they WLD need to know to keep the children and the infirm in protected areas. So this means all of the adults knew. Also, it is stated that only itachi was against the plan and spoke against it durring the clan meetings, and they had shisui follow him.
Could be ... But maybe they would just tell the ones who wouldn't go fighting on the day of the coup to stay inside and they would explain it later? Fugaku doesn't seem like someone who tolerates questions, so he would probably command them to stay inside and only inform them of what happened after the coupe.
I could be wrong of course ^^;
 

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Idk why everyone thinks that it is OK to slaughter a whole village for some peoples choices, If he is going to kill anyone it should just be Sarutobis 2 remaining friends or just those who were involve, cus like I said only a few people were responsible no use of killing everyone.
Most sensible words.
 

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Sasuke is no Shinobi.. He is not bound to any duty, he is no soldier - he only cares for his own needs. He is just a man who hates Konoha elders for killing his family. What is so hard to understand?
Just because he got his abilities through shinobi training doesn't mean he agreed to their philosophy. Sasuke was never a shinobi
 
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This is ridiculous i understand why sasuke is upset (just like the countless other shinobi how have lost so much ) but this is getting utterly ridiculous .........Ninjas = Soldiers .
If you are not ready for the sacrifice and burden of being one them dont join

Example = Me , joining the army then crying after they hand me a top secret mission to kill someone i know or love , if you dont want it then dont join ,
There is no law that states you have to be a shinobi or join the anbu etc ... itachi signed up , which meant he was prepared and knew full well that decision like that come in the field of being a shinobi


Sasuke needs to get his brain out the story books and live real life

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Example if a soldier in a army today behaves like sasuke , he would have been eliminated so loooooong ago and dont even start with naruto..:sy:

Any way its a fictional character living in a fictional world with a fictional story but sometimes just reading it pisses me off
Are you stupid? Can you not comprehend is logic? If I was sasuke and I witnessed my entire family die before my eyes, killed by the hands of my brother not only would I want revenge against him but against anyone who was involved. The village was clearly in the wrong for what they did and I guess Sasuke just can't forgive THE LEAF FOR ORDERING HIS BROTHER TO KILL HIS ENTIRE FAMILY. JUST ASKING SOMEONE TO DO THAT TO YOUR FAMILY DESERVES PUNISHMENT. THINK IF IT WAS YOUR FAMILY KILLED BY YOUR BROTHER TO PROTECT OTHER ARROGANT PEOPLE OF A SMALL VILLAGE
 

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Could be ... But maybe they would just tell the ones who wouldn't go fighting on the day of the coup to stay inside and they would explain it later? Fugaku doesn't seem like someone who tolerates questions, so he would probably command them to stay inside and only inform them of what happened after the coupe.
I could be wrong of course ^^;
Ur right there, but if they just stayed inside, their homes wld be open of attack so they need to be in a 'defended' place for their protection (I dont think the uchiha wld be so careless), plus nearly all the families wld have at least one member who cld fight and wld join the fight. So nearly every family wld know that one of them is going to fight something serious when there is no external threat. This means nearly everyone knew there was going to be coup. But i can be wrong too.
 
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