When did sasuke surpass Kakashi?

Sasuke surpassed kakashi when

  • He defeaded oro

    Votes: 67 20.8%
  • He got ms

    Votes: 82 25.5%
  • He got ems

    Votes: 65 20.2%
  • He fought itachi

    Votes: 39 12.1%
  • I still believe Kakashi>Sasuke

    Votes: 69 21.4%

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The beginning of pt2 (after the 2 1/2 yrs)

Many people seem to forget he man handled team seven
Their is also many misconceptions when it concerns the young uchiha that stem from hate
 

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i don't see sasuke defeating itachi
lol +rep

all that happened in this fight was itachi letting sasuke live, because he loves his little brother :p

as far as when sasuke passed kakashi, thats debatable , it seems like the stronger he gets the more reckless his actions are, kakashi is one to take advantage of something like that, but in terms of sheer power, probably when he got ms
 

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beggining of Shippuden, this is because Sasuke gained a lot of experience, knowledge and power while working under Oro, whereas kakashi seemed to do no training whatsover until late into the Shippuden series.
- this can be seen when Sasuke is able to use "True Chodori Blade" and Kakashi is still yet to master his "lightning beast running Technique" (or atleast we didnt see it until the Pein arc (i beleive)) - both of which are extremely similar techniques. Also the use of Oro's curse mark (which hasnt been seen since Sasuke got MS >.<) means he naturally outweighs kakashi's power.

On the other hand - Kakashi can use four elements - lightning affinity, water, earth and (anime only) - fire - where as sasuke can still only use two - fire and lightning. so Kakashi's fundamental knowledge and skills are probably better than Sasuke's.

When he obtained MS.
Kakashi has MS aswell - but only in one eye...and instead of using tsukuyomi & amaretsu he uses kamui (although it uses a lot more chakra then it does for Sasuke)
 
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beggining of Shippuden, this is because Sasuke gained a lot of experience, knowledge and power while working under Oro, whereas kakashi seemed to do no training whatsover until late into the Shippuden series.
- this can be seen when Sasuke is able to use "True Chodori Blade" and Kakashi is still yet to master his "lightning beast running Technique" (or atleast we didnt see it until the Pein arc (i beleive)) - both of which are extremely similar techniques. Also the use of Oro's curse mark (which hasnt been seen since Sasuke got MS >.<) means he naturally outweighs kakashi's power.

On the other hand - Kakashi can use four elements - lightning affinity, water, earth and (anime only) - fire - where as sasuke can still only use two - fire and lightning. so Kakashi's fundamental knowledge and skills are probably better than Sasuke's.



Kakashi has MS aswell - but only in one eye...and instead of using tsukuyomi & amaretsu he uses kamui (although it uses a lot more chakra then it does for Sasuke)
yup.Kamui makes kakashi an empty shell.But it is a badass tech
 

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I will say we don't really know. I mean, we're talking about someone who has a better MS technic than him(kamui absorbed his arrows like it was nothing), and it seemed like Kakashi didn't feared at all and thought he would have killed him at that time. But i think Sasuke was stronger when he completely mastered his MS technics against Danzo.
 

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Sasuke got stronger when he fought Itachi.

BTW I think a duel Kakashi VS Deidara wouldn't be different from what happened in Sasuke vs Deidara match (back then). I mean Kakashi would own Deidara as Sasuke did which means they were at similar level back on that time but since he fought Itachi he got new toys to use and a happier face. ^^
 

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i cant say danzo was an easy fight because by the same token he could use izanagi and that had to be a true BITCH....to think u killed sumone and yet theyre still there
obviously,it wasnt easy but karin was there helping sasuke,and danzo isnt really 'that' strong,sorry dont get mad at me but he was caught in a simple genjutsu used by sasuke.
 

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I will say we don't really know. I mean, we're talking about someone who has a better MS technic than him(kamui absorbed his arrows like it was nothing), and it seemed like Kakashi didn't feared at all and thought he would have killed him at that time. But i think Sasuke was stronger when he completely mastered his MS technics against Danzo.
kakashi thought so because sasuke was weak after the danzo battle.And kamui uses lots of chakra,so it can be used only few times.
 
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He didn't defeat Itachi he caught him when he was sick and even then who was the one backing away scared at the end of the battle?
Totally agree. I know that I'm probably going to enrage the millions of Sasuke Fboys, when I say this but--

Sasuke is like the grim reaper..for the sick or disabled!
Oro- Sick/disabled
Itachi- sick

The only other real fight was Danzo: and danzo was imperfect. At this point in history he learned to Mastered spamming susanoo/amater.

I agree it was a win- but with 10 lives i think Danzo was just reckless imo
Lets see him do this again against someone canon- remember A almost ripped him apart, and killer bee was like ah fool u took the wrong clone.

Howevr he probably got stronger than Kakashi when he got his new eyes:noc:
 

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Totally agree. I know that I'm probably going to enrage the millions of Sasuke Fboys, when I say this but--

Sasuke is like the grim reaper..for the sick or disabled!
Oro- Sick/disabled
Itachi- sick

The only other real fight was Danzo: and danzo was imperfect. At this point in history he learned to Mastered spamming susanoo/amater.

I agree it was a win- but with 10 lives i think Danzo was just reckless imo
Lets see him do this again against someone canon- remember A almost ripped him apart, and killer bee was like ah fool u took the wrong clone.

Howevr he probably got stronger than Kakashi when he got his new eyes:noc:
you mean ems sasuke?? WoW
 
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