Who is the real sasuke THE TRUTH with PROOF
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Someone here obvioulsy didn't read the manga. He's not S class he got saved and his chakra was restored by Zetsu. He was HEALED by KARIN once and saved by TOBI once, so ur full of it and that whole fight KARIN, was coaching sasuke. Lmfao read the damn post Danzo broke Sasuke's tskuyiomi i bet you didn't even read the thread. Yes, he was praised, and no he isn't when can sasuke do a yasaka magatama with MS in order to do YM u must be able to form it. They praised him for something they didn't know itachi could do already fanboy you think the sasuke is the best thing in this Naruto World. and if you wanna really get technical. He can't even use amaterasu without Itachi sealing the power into him, it was something he needed unlocked. Since when is Zetsu strong lmfao. And yes he did cast genjutsu on danzo, yes after he was expended alot more chakra. Lets get this straight Danzo didn't even use all his trick's he didn't even get the chance to use shishui's eyes and danzo can use shadow clones, which sasuke can't even see through so blah. And sasuke had enough trouble with one Danzo.
He learned to scrape are you kidding me. He learned to get by using his brothers powers that's all he learned how to do. His brother has trained for his power, and he fought without using the MS mostly.
You do realize in DBZ. Vegeta couldn't even beat FAT BUU, and that vegeta got a power up to hit SSJ4. Otherwise vegeta can only go SSJ2 and naruto being goku can go SSJ4 by himself. Your really proving my point sasuke is not EQUAL to Naruto if you base it to dragon ball z get your manga and anime straight.
Lmfao, when did itachi train naruto you got to be kidding me right?:sy:
Tsunade taught sakura?
Yamato never trained naruto he helped him train, and it was just bee the only jinchuriki who ever trained him, and tbh he still did alot of the work himself.
Thats why is eyes can see FASTER. Than sasuke.
Actually your making this into a naruto vs sasuke thread which it really isn't, because naruto never said he was the best damn thing to come. Nor does he pretend he can solo everyone like sasuke. Naruto acknowledges his strengths and weaknesses and works on it. What does sasuke do? Look for the next power up get real.
S rank means to be able to solo without coaching he CANT do that.
As i iterated before i liked sasuke part 1 i dont like his traits now the character is nice, but the truth is the truth, your posting opinions based with no facts, and ur facts are only partial you stop without even considering the full extent it was even used in.
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So since when are S rank characters reckless there suppose to have composure look at madara. And he knew the extent of his power when he fought Itachi, because itachi showed him. YM mirror, Sword of Toksuya. Susano. Tsyuki Ama. The only thing he didn't know was that he could of formed enton, but who knows if the only enton he has is through his eyes, he didn't train and try to reproduce it someplace else may of had a kekkei genkai so he could of saved his eyes. Anywho he didn't beat anyone legitly, or anyone period the momentum of raikage's leg drop would of killed sasuke tbh cut off or not he would of fell on him with alot of force and speed and killed him. He would of lost a leg but still killed sasuke.
And i give him credit cuz he's ballsy which is why he is B ranked.
i don't see much how your ranking would have to do with anything other than your skill set and chakra levels. if a baby could us MS and all those techniques he'd be s ranked because he'd still be as dangerous as anyone else. i can agree with the gripe that sasuke never has to train, but at the same time, if any of you know any geniuses, they don't have to train either. everything comes easily without any real fight. thats what sasuke is. the fact that he always knows he's going to win actually works against him, insofar that he is reckless. the 9 tails comments on sasuke, comparing him to madara. i still don't think any of the younger nins are overrated. naruto sasuke and all of them are only 16 17 years old. they're S ranked ninja's who are inexperienced and that's all there is to it, really.
First Edo Itachi, used the crow to break out of edo tensei... that was the crows purpose. And are you serious he know's he is dead that's why he is spamming MS techniques. An uchiha without eyes is like a bird who can't fly dead meat. So yah, that was a special circumstance, because he can't physically be affected by it anymore, that was a bad defense. 2) Noone really ever saw a MS until sasuke they heard the rumors, so obviously ITACHI KEPT HIS UNDER GOOD WRAPS. so it obviously proved me right....:sy:HG Swells said:
And sasuke vs the kage's he knew all the kage's would be there and Danzo were blocking the sensor's using shishui's eyes everyone was under his control except the byukaggan guy forgot his name. SO sasuke wasnt sensed and he was quickly sensed after. He had a choice to go there, and he went in with every intention to fight so using that logic. It wasn't a last attempt it was a first attempt. If sasuke would of been smart he would of done something to the result of pain or at least plot out another attack vs Konoha and refine and train more. He wanted Danzo correct he couldnt wait like 3 days really. Patience is a virtue.
And uhh Sasuke fought raikage mostly alone there were 2 chapters on him should go read them. Juugo, and suigetusu were incompacitated, and darui, and C let A handle him by himself, so yah.
Also please so manga, where sasuke used regular taijutsu vs A, besides 1 chidori. Thanks you said several, so i would like to see them.
And for the record it was Chidori blade, which he didn't even try again cuz darui stopped, then it was genjutsu, then it was chidori. Heres the pics.
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Itachi vs Kakashi, he didn't really have another choice, because Kakashi knows how to avoid Itach's genjutsu's mostly, and he wanted to end the fight. It was life and death the longer he was there the more attention he would attract,and he was in no condition to fight Konoha. You give kakashi a lack of credit doing this, do you realize how tricky kakashi is. And in Itachi's condition, back then he wouldn't of been able to take kakashi.
Now sasuke being able to see chakra heres the picture, and the ability of sharingan via wiki. I'm a give you 2 manga + wiki.
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.He can see chakra, so he should of been seeing that something is wrong with danzo and that he is under genjutsu.
Direct quote from wiki.
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"the first of the Sharingan's powers is being able to see the flow of chakra. The Sharingan itself gives colour to chakra, allowing the wielder to differentiate them.[3] They are also able to tell if a person is under a genjutsu because the person's chakra flow would be irregular."
Heres Databook.
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"Two tomoe will also allow the ninja to pierce Genjutsu and see the surrounding reality for what it really is. It can also allow the member to pierce another’s body and see their chakra. While the eye is not refined enough to see the tenketsu and chakra circulatory system like the Byakugan, it can view the movement and flow of chakra. This can help them tell if a person is trapped in a Genjutsu"
Sasuke as soon as Danzo went to punch him turned on Susano.
Danzo broke his susano,and tsukyi.
Enough Said. Please lets stop making excuses.
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This video stops when he breaks his tsyukiyomi. Danzo is as old as hiruzen, he cant even taijutsu well anymore because of his age look at Oonoki, so your giving sasuke credit for fighting a 74 year old man? Really good job?
I posted it in OP sasuke breaking his tsukyi not gonna post again.
So what does Itachi pushing sasuke have to do with anything now he was an edo no consequence of using his MS. Ok he broke a wall lots of ninja's can do that?
One Bee fought TAKA solo. Sasuke had a team thats one and he incompacitated suigetsu. And the rest of taka was forced to flee and he injured karin.
2) He didn't fight them all at once, it was more like round robin at wrestle mania or survival mode in a game. 2) he attacked gaara, gaara didnt want to fight sasuke he started against gaara. And it was just him and A solo for the most part Darui and C stayed out of it once they seperated. IE juugo and suigetsu taken out of. He didn't even fight Gaara he ran... cut the pillar lol. Mizukage he was bailed out by Zetsu, and oonoki bailed out by Tobi, he didn't even get to attack so he fought 1 kage lol. ran from 1. Bailed out of 2. Bailed out against Danzo 2x, and he was being coached and Danzo didn't even go all out.
Im asking for taijutsu pics vs Danzo. And whatever images you have of madara saying he used his MS alot until he became blind. Proof of those.
Itachi's crow breaking him out of EDO.
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Always 1 step ahead of his brother
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Mainly i didnt understand alot of what you wrote, because it was vauge
uhmmm: Neji trains all the time. Lee trains all the time. And its how you use the technique. I'll put it this way sasuke even said it. An expert with a rock can beat a novice with a kunai. He's not a expert. Sasuke is the only one who is over rated, and you cant talk about the other nin's because kishi doesnt even develop them or give them a story line. And He's B ranked. Once you forget the foundation and you stop you cant be an S rank ninja, because S rank ninja's never forget the basic. Even madara took them under surprise. He trained for his infernal destruction technique. Sasuke has S rank techniques but if your overall doesn't match it you cant be S rank. Its like a report Card.
2 A's and 2 D's = BB CC thats how he isnt S rank.
this is a moot point as neji is just very skilled and lee is nothing at all. make that make sense to me. the personal factor here is getting in the way of you making points. a fight is nothing like a report card, ever, nor will it ever be. i've all ready made my point, inexperience and skill are unrelated. its like the NFL combine actually, not a report card. you are rated on your skill sets, whether or not you pan out is another story. that ends that debate, really. the ranking is a projection of what you can do and where you are skilled. the end.
Databook is like your report card what are you talking about. And lee can probably at the moment beat neji, since i dont believe neji can take lee in 2 gates, since he's 2 fast. And neji trains all the time and your crazy to think lee isn't skilled. I like how you act like just because you say its the end its the end. You haven't given any proof really. Databook is like a support card
manga>databook>opinions.
And its not really personal I'm just tired of stupid comments and people just overrating sasuke. The average sasuke fan is like amaterasu, tsuyiomi and done no proof no manga.
And with your theory tbh, sasuke doesn't need to train and a ninja who is strong in a certain set doesn't need to train anything else. It's like gpa get real. Yes in NFL you can get better position and tema based on YTD, but this is naruto , and they are classed from D-S so its not like NFL at all.
And through experience you gain more skill the prime example kakashi, please show me in the manga where you prove your point. Oonoki? another great example.
And if you think of it yu yu hakusho and DB are related, and when fighters got together there skills were panned out so please try again?
My opinions arent really opinions if supported by manga it becomes fact doesn't it? Dismissed.
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still not buying it. no one ever said the databook wasn't similar to a report card. you just made that up. i said the databook and the actual fights are unrelated because they are. look it up infinite times, lesser ranks beat higher ranks. the databook is just info, it helps form strategies. that is its function. naruto beat many people ranked higher than him through shear will so once again, no reason to put so much stock in databook. lee's only chance to beat any of these guys is 8 gates which if he isn't in at the very beginning of the fight he's going to be in genjutsu and have no means to escape since he can't disrupt his own chakra. instead of letters they give you numbers in the nfl so its exactly correlated. are you unable to see they just give you a letter based on how high your numbers are in naruto, its a bracket system. so its basically exactly the same. you just look at it from some pointless angle. if the creator says thats what he is, then thats the way it is, and who are you to say otherwise. dude is S rank. he's just too volatile for his own good a lot of the time. Reinstated.
Where did the creator say he's S rank. He said sasuke was like vegeta, who never broke ssj2 without help, and even before his ssj2 he had ssj2 earlie from babidi via majin. And no Sasuke never beat Haku, and his matches were fixed via plot, and naruto's via plot, honestly you think sasuke would of fought sasori, instead of deidara he would of won. And no if you looked at databook yes they fall into brackets but an overall S rank ninja a good one is like Oro, and he really fails in comparison to any true S rank.
Please give me quote and manga, your stating your opinion OP shows how he is B ranked. Thank you. Dismissed again.
I also stated why he isn't S rank and invention, training, and deception is alot, also knowing WHEN to use a JUTSU. Any great ninja has that. He lacks foundation no S rank forgets foundation.
manga>databook>opinion.
manga>databook>opinion.
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his stats are above 30. databook barely less than orochimaru. he's beat several s ranks even though he technically is not classified as s rank yet. s rank doesn't involve invention training or deception. it involves techniques only prevalent in that character and his danger level due to being missing. he's s rank, but since they haven't made the manga issue that says sasuke is s rank, outright then there will be no convincing you. naruto is not listed as s rank either, yet he beats s ranks every time he faces them. the only real ninja classified as s rank were the akastuki and sasuke was in akatsuki and beat members of akatsuki. 3 of them he beat alone, although orochimaru was very weak, which sasuke says himself. the way it seems to me is that if i can beat you, i'm at least in your class, whether or not it officially says that anywhere yet. he's the most dangerous ninja left alive other than tobi. i don't see how you can say he isn't. that'll be it for me on this topic.
manga>db>opinion
ur mad to think he has better taijutsu than neji, and speed than lee. And his intellect is better than why bother u dont see the practicality of what your saying and u dont understand manga>db>opinion.
KISHI has said it himself to make him a fanboy so ofc, he gives him higher stats u believe he can honestly take class. And kishi fixed it vs deidara lightning > explosion to deactive like really he gears his fights to best possible match ups most of the time. Kabuto >.> defeats that statement. And i explained how your just to stuck up to see tbh.
Name several S rank he's beaten please. Deidara should be him and sasuke dead. Danzo him and sasuke dead. A vs sasuke hes dead. Please your making excuses.
And i never said naruto was ranked this thread is about sasuke not naruto.
Databook is alot of theory
manga is actual proof of the theory
and your right gotta see it to believe it.
Just because you can defeat a S class to PLOT doesn't mean your S class when has a S class ninja had help from a team really. Danzo, Deidara fought by themselves. Itachi himself. and if kishi wasn't an uchiha fan as he stated he'd make the DB more realistic. that ends that cya
You must of got it off wiki cuz databook says 25 >.> thank you.
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