Who is the real sasuke THE TRUTH with PROOF

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people just let this thread die, the guy has bunch of wrong facts is probably just troll hating.
I think its you hating your character coming to light. Mad at the thread i see :). For the most part most of the people agree.

None of my facts are wrong all of them are supported by manga.
 

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I think its you hating your character coming to light. Mad at the thread i see :). For the most part most of the people agree.

None of my facts are wrong all of them are supported by manga.
Correct my good sir anytime something doesnt go a fanboys way they say you hate on the character
 

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I think its you hating your character coming to light. Mad at the thread i see :). For the most part most of the people agree.

None of my facts are wrong all of them are supported by manga.
I already debunked most of what you said in an earlier reply
"The fact that you use plot no jutsu as an excuse basically to ignore anything you disagree with. Your "proof" was just a bunch of random links that didn't actually prove anything. Base Sasuke w/ sharingan is easily a high jonin, he was able to completely pwn team 7 at the beginning of part 2, and Oro said 3Tail Naruto wasn't even in the same league as Sasuke, he beat Deidara, his genjutsu was able to take out C-who is a genjutsu user, and a sensor, he was able to keep up with the raikage for a while, broke tsukiyomi, pushed Itachi to using susanoo. All before even getting MS.
The only reason Deidara could break out of Sasuke's genjutsu was because he trained in eyes in genjutsu after Itachi beat him when he was younger.
You don't come to your conclusion by being logical, even when I used to be a Sasuke hater I didn't argue he was weak >.>."
"How many fights did Naruto or Kakashi win by himself in part2? plus Sasuke was fighting the kages, why should he hold back? The fact is he's Naruto rival, I take kishi's word over some guy on a forum." This is hopefully the last reply, btw Sasuke isn't even my favorite character, Naruto is.
 

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I already debunked most of what you said in an earlier reply
"The fact that you use plot no jutsu as an excuse basically to ignore anything you disagree with. Your "proof" was just a bunch of random links that didn't actually prove anything. Base Sasuke w/ sharingan is easily a high jonin, he was able to completely pwn team 7 at the beginning of part 2, and Oro said 3Tail Naruto wasn't even in the same league as Sasuke, he beat Deidara, his genjutsu was able to take out C-who is a genjutsu user, and a sensor, he was able to keep up with the raikage for a while, broke tsukiyomi, pushed Itachi to using susanoo. All before even getting MS.
The only reason Deidara could break out of Sasuke's genjutsu was because he trained in eyes in genjutsu after Itachi beat him when he was younger.
You don't come to your conclusion by being logical, even when I used to be a Sasuke hater I didn't argue he was weak >.>."
"How many fights did Naruto or Kakashi win by himself in part2? plus Sasuke was fighting the kages, why should he hold back? The fact is he's Naruto rival, I take kishi's word over some guy on a forum." This is hopefully the last reply, btw Sasuke isn't even my favorite character, Naruto is.
You didn't prove anything and the manga links i posted prove alot. and i answered all of ur things before in previous pages so what ur saying now makes no sense you can search to find the answer. K.

I answered all that already previously and get some manga and come back thx. Also look at his profile on DB and wiki nothing bout being a genj user. 1 tech doesn't make u a true user. So bah. Go search for my manga quoted responses to you on w/e page i wrote. And plot no jutsu isn't even logical way of winning a fight, its just kishi bailing them out. So ur saying every uchiha who has a sharingan no matter what level is a jonin. I want you to think about that.
 

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... At the end of the day... this guy is an uchiha.. his clan is one of the oldest and one of the strongest in the history of shinobi.. i mean a descendant of SO6P's.. therefore he is genius fullstop
ok he has been very lucky.. (and without his sharigan, he most likely would be dead).. however the battle with itachi shows you how much of a genius he is, to be able to counteract MS, with his ordinary sharigan... do you know what that means????.......
Plus if you killl sasuke.. then you might aswell kill naruto, because as we've seen, he has made it his life's goal to get sasuke back.. and ofcourse after become hokage... you can't kill a main character like sasuke people come on! :sy:
 

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... At the end of the day... this guy is an uchiha.. his clan is one of the oldest and one of the strongest in the history of shinobi.. i mean a descendant of SO6P's.. therefore he is genius fullstop
ok he has been very lucky.. (and without his sharigan, he most likely would be dead).. however the battle with itachi shows you how much of a genius he is, to be able to counteract MS, with his ordinary sharigan... do you know what that means????.......
Plus if you killl sasuke.. then you might aswell kill naruto, because as we've seen, he has made it his life's goal to get sasuke back.. and ofcourse after become hokage... you can't kill a main character like sasuke people come on! :sy:
I agree. I don't want him dead im just saying he needs to fix his attitude and stop acting like hes so bad ass his life has been saved by other team mates and kishi by like 6 times, when he's like i got it guys watch me solo.

Kinda like fairly odd parents and king arthur fighting the dragon. Guys:

Cosmo & Wanda: We'll give it a shot.
 

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I'm not doing anything im just saying 78.75 is a C rank and im giving him B. im just simply diving 31.5/40 and 32/40. Your not giving me any manga just theory, not even meeting me half way. And im not changing anything just doing the math tbh, your trying to skew the math to support your theory, please show manga thanks.

Theory < Proof.

But just for your bracket theory. He's A rank from DB, but still B rank in the manga, because he lacks the cool to be at his best.

Lets give him his EMS so he'll be an S in DB, but do you honestly think, he has the full capabilities the cool the cunning to be S rank. He's kinda a hat trick ninja dont u think.
all you did was say the same thing i said except it doesn't make sense when you say it because you're dividing the 2 to support your theory when there is no, absolutely, no need to divide it at all when its simple math. also there is no need for me to show you this in the manga, i all ready stated the ninja he beat, which if you read the manga, you should remember. quite honestly when the hell did cool cunning become criteria for S rank ninja. tell me how many people in akatsuki were "cool and collected" because i can think of a few who weren't: deidara who was as volatile as they come, hidan was completely crazy, and kisame was a brute force beast always wanting to fight, not to mention orochimaru who was always a powder keg waiting to blow. what about these people screams cool, calm, and collected to you. i would really like to know. this isn't even really about sasuke anymore. its about you using my own argument to prove what i'm saying and calling it a rebuttal. i love a great many characters in naruto and there are very few who would even stand a chance against sasuke, and that's the bottom line so go ahead and try to make people believe that isn't true by fudging the results some more. that seems to be your modus operandi.
 
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all you did was say the same thing i said except it doesn't make sense when you say it because you're dividing the 2 to support your theory when there is no, absolutely, no need to divide it at all when its simple math. also there is no need for me to show you this in the manga, i all ready stated the ninja he beat, which if you read the manga, you should remember. quite honestly when the hell did cool cunning become criteria for S rank ninja. tell me how many people in akatsuki were "cool and collected" because i can think of a few who weren't: deidara who was as volatile as they come, hidan was completely crazy, and kisame was a brute force beast always wanting to fight, not to mention orochimaru who was always a powder keg waiting to blow. what about these people screams cool, calm, and collected to you. i would really like to know. this isn't even really about sasuke anymore. its about you using my own argument to prove what i'm saying and calling it a rebuttal. i love a great many characters in naruto and there are very few who would even stand a chance against sasuke, and that's the bottom line so go ahead and try to make people believe that isn't true by fudging the results some more. that seems to be your modus operandi.
Sasori cool. Deidara, was mostly cool ie gaara vs him. Oro, he was the epitome of cool under pressure him vs tsunade, him vs sasuke under all that pressure and talk to me when you get manga. And Kisame thought out all his tactics him vs bee. Please show me in the manga. And you used my own argument as well, and this thread is about sasuke your tying to turn it into something else. He may be A ranked in the databook, but its B rank support in the thread. Needless to say cunning. Pein, Kakashi, Jairya please get out of here like really.:sy:

Pein Zetsu early tobi, and current. Itachi pretty much e1. Kakuzu. Hidan was the exception he didnt need cunning he was immortal.... he can get away with anything
 
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seriously dude, what freaking naruto manga are you reading? prove it to me from the manga. how does sasuke not think out his attacks. his entire fights are set ups for one freaking move dude, what universe are you in? entire fight with deidara setting him up testing him out. his fight with itachi set up the whole time for kirin. itachi has to reign kisame in several times throughout the manga because he wants to just destroy everything. first case in point when he wants to just break out jutsu in the middle of the leaf. do i really need to post the damn manga page with this on it or is your memory so horrible that that's the only reason you keep posting this foolish poppycock.
 

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seriously dude, what freaking naruto manga are you reading? prove it to me from the manga. how does sasuke not think out his attacks. his entire fights are set ups for one freaking move dude, what universe are you in? entire fight with deidara setting him up testing him out. his fight with itachi set up the whole time for kirin. itachi has to reign kisame in several times throughout the manga because he wants to just destroy everything. first case in point when he wants to just break out jutsu in the middle of the leaf. do i really need to post the damn manga page with this on it or is your memory so horrible that that's the only reason you keep posting this foolish poppycock.
you mad bro? Akatsuki travel in packs of 2 or did you forget kakuzu and hidan. Kakuzu didn't back him up and needless to say A vs him and danzo vs him. He just waste chakra and go blind. And your obviously not brining manga because u cant support what you say. And what are u talking about how did the yin realm genjutsu fight set up for karin. Please tell me. And are u kidding me about itachi needing kisame. Kisame is like itachi's lap dog. And my memory is good you have no idea what ur talking about tbh.

Actually the manga proof is all in the OP. look up deidara. Him being saved by kishi, because he doesnt know what else to do?

He walked into the summit knowing there are sensors thats 2 danzo's eyes prevented them from sensing him in op.

I just really think your mad and have no manga or evidence to support anything that your saying.

Kakashi vs Sasuke knowing he's just about blind cuz danzo told him. It's in OP as well.

Konan and Pein/nagato also very cool and cunning.

Well thats 3 cases of him not thinking before he attacks.
Thx for playing ciao :).


Even Kabuto as you can see going against 2 uchiha brothers Itachi/Sasuke is holding his cool. And this chapter proved my statement even more the sharingan cant break every genjutsu. It requires a surge of chakra to break out of most genjutsu.
 
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