Minato immune to Genjutsu?

[Bogard]

Okay we are going off topic here there ill make it as quick as possible. The power gap between the bijuu's are great. The power gap between the 8 tails and 9 tails is great. So whilst the amber purifying pot sealed the 8 tails, we dont know whether it can contain the 9 tails.

Similarly whether the death god can seal of the 8 tails is unknown, it just came up against a much greater bijuu who's chakra is the greatest of them all, excluding the 10 tails.

I agree the pot is supposedly one of the sage's weapons, whilst we dont know who the spiritual weapons belonged to. True nobody can for definite say that the totsuka can seal a tailed beast, but similarly we cannot say that the pot can seal the 9 tails even. What im saying is that if one legendary weapon whether the sage's or not can contain a bijuu, i see no reason why another cannot, but nobody knows the answer to this. The closest to this is what the pot has achieved

I agree with you. The power between Kyubi and Hachibi is great, cuz just look how half of Kyubis power was able to match TBB from 5Bijuus Eventhough Hachibi wasn't one of them, but he has said himself "Kyubi is damn strong", meaning that there's a gap in power. That's why i say there is a doubt about it. I think we must wait until we see totsuka piercing a Bijuu to be sure, unfortunately i highly doubt something like that could happen cuz Itachi will never fight a Bijuu, unless Sasuke who has Itachis eyes could actually use his weapons too :noc:

Ok for the topic, like i always say, no Minato isn't immune to genjutsus so far we know, but that doesn't mean he didn't had his method to fight Uchiwas. He did a war and became a hokage in a period where there were still Uchiwas, and his wife was even closest friend from the wife of Uchiwas leaders(Itachis father). So he must have knew how to fight them and their genjutsus. Unfortunately i've no proof for that.

 

[Blaze Release]

I agree with you. The power between Kyubi and Hachibi is great, cuz just look how half of Kyubis power was able to match TBB from 5Bijuus Eventhough Hachibi wasn't one of them, but he has said himself "Kyubi is damn strong", meaning that there's a gap in power. That's why i say there is a doubt about it. I think we must wait until we see totsuka piercing a Bijuu to be sure, unfortunately i highly doubt something like that could happen cuz Itachi will never fight a Bijuu, unless Sasuke who has Itachis eyes could actually use his weapons too :noc:

We will never know the answer for sure, therefore there isnt any point to continue this, i agree :noc:

Ok for the topic, like i always say, no Minato isn't immune to genjutsus so far we know, but that doesn't mean he didn't had his method to fight Uchiwas. He did a war and became a hokage in a period where there were still Uchiwas, and his wife was even closest friend from the wife of Uchiwas leaders(Itachis father). So he must have knew how to fight them and their genjutsus. Unfortunately i've no proof for that.

True, but you see just because you have the sharigan doesnt mean you are a genjutsu specialist nor does it mean you can match the very best at this field. Also oro who was about to become a hokage made this mistake.

 

[drtohtori]

I love this tread
It's awesome

 

[Prince Charles]

dont really see the point of this blaze, quite obvious that he isnt immune to genjutsu, if he fanboys says he is then let them. But you did go full in detail about it and it was good +rep.

 

[Blaze Release]

dont really see the point of this blaze, quite obvious that he isnt immune to genjutsu, if he fanboys says he is then let them. But you did go full in detail about it and it was good +rep.

Actually learnt from this. If i was to create misconception threads, it would be too much therefore id focus on other things

 

[Prince Charles]

Actually learnt from this. If i was to create misconception threads, it would be too much therefore id focus on other things

aaahh... the irony

 

[NarutoKage2]

truth be told, i never neg rep people 1st, i just return the favor when people do that to me, but sometimes i don't do that

You did neg rep me, and that is a very shallow thing to say. If someone is making a good point, plus rep. If somebody is saying something ridiculous and pointless neg rep them. Basing it on whether someone else has repped you or not, is childish and is called rep whoring.

Owned?, this guy is a joke. I dont care about rep, but if somebody cannot take something and - rep you, then its them who care enough about rep in the first place.

Anyway ive already mocked you enough, no different to what cticeman and just yesterday itachi namikaze did to you. Its rather obvious that you like to get into these type of internet arguments. Because of this lust, id refrain from continuing this.

Wonder who would put you in your place next :|

Like i said, if what the person is saying is pointless and useless then neg rep. If its useful than i'd plus rep them but i don't give out rep based on whether someone else has repped me or not, plus or negative, that's called rep whoring.

Many people have disproved you in your thread, like that ajpn guy, but you dismissed his points w/o trying to give a counter argument. That's called trolling, and you try to act like you're self important/don't have time with others when ironically you obviously are one of the few people who have more free time on their hands than anyone else. After calling me out for trolling, you're doing the same thing, this makes you a hypocrite.

Oh, and I'm still waiting for an answer on why you claim only jinchuurikis can escape genjutsu and parade this as a manga fact. But i guess you don't have time for that, its funny cuz you still have time enough to make thousands of posts in a few months.

 

[Tsuki]

I don't believe anyone is immune against genjutsu, not even a Sharingan user since they obviously recieve the genjutsu... but the thing with sharingan is that they can see trough it so no matter what, a sharingan user can be affected by genjutsu.

Haven't u noticed that 99% of all genjutsus are visual one's? that's why i think the uchiha say they are immune to genjutsu (but actually only visual ones).

When it comes to Jinchuurikis I've also heard that they are immune to genjutsus..
what I think about that is because a jinchuuriki host i basically the host + the tailed beast which makes it 2 individes and if the one put into genjutsu gets chakra from the other then the genjutsu is (from what i understand) cancelled. But off course they'll be in an illusion during the time another chakra gets mixed with theirs...

What do you think? =DD

 

[Prince Charles]

You did neg rep me, and that is a very shallow thing to say. If someone is making a good point, plus rep. If somebody is saying something ridiculous and pointless neg rep them. Basing it on whether someone else has repped you or not, is childish and is called rep whoring.


Like i said, if what the person is saying is pointless and useless then neg rep. If its useful than i'd plus rep them but i don't give out rep based on whether someone else has repped me or not, plus or negative, that's called rep whoring.

Many people have disproved you in your thread, like that ajpn guy, but you dismissed his points w/o trying to give a counter argument. That's called trolling, and you try to act like you're self important/don't have time with others when ironically you obviously are one of the few people who have more free time on their hands than anyone else. After calling me out for trolling, you're doing the same thing, this makes you a hypocrite.

Oh, and I'm still waiting for an answer on why you claim only jinchuurikis can escape genjutsu and parade this as a manga fact. But i guess you don't have time for that, its funny cuz you still have time enough to make thousands of posts in a few months.

whoa.. did you just call out blaze +rep, blaze is my boy but that was a good post lolz

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

You did neg rep me, and that is a very shallow thing to say. If someone is making a good point, plus rep. If somebody is saying something ridiculous and pointless neg rep them. Basing it on whether someone else has repped you or not, is childish and is called rep whoring.

when did i say i never neg rep you ? i did but only to return the favor, because i got neg rep just because someone don't agree with me, while i never did that, and what i say is nowhere near BS

you can ask uzumaki16,-vegeta-, and ajpn dude, i always have disagreement with them in almost every thread, but none of them got neg repped by me the same thing goes for them

i only neg rep people 1st if they post fake link(virus link or something like that), like what always happen in naruto manga section when it get near to manga release time.

the childish thing is, if you disagree with some people and started to insult them and neg rep them, that's what childish is, hate losing and get angry pretty easily just because you can't take what he said while they only stated what they think, and people like owarij and itachi namikaze never stated BS and idiotic post i can vouch for that.:noc:

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Minato's not immune to genjutsu, if Itachi could be put in one Minato can be put in one though his skills allow him to avoid illusions.

Against Tobi, its more likely that he didn't look into his eyes because---

1. Minato knew about Madara's control of Kurama and that the illusion won't last long so he has an intricate knowledge of the Sharingan,

2. He came unbelievably close to Tobi's face that its impossible that he didn't see it unless he wasn't looking at it because Kakashi could spot it at a distance.

3. Anytime he flashes back to Tobi,its always a dark spot there.

The Totsuka can most likely seal anything, though not Kurama since the fox's skin can't be pierced.

Dead Demon Consuming Seal can seal anything, if it sealed just half of Kurama, nothing stops Minato from simply stretching the arm to seal again, Hiruzen used it 3 times.

Peace.

 

[Blaze Release]

whoa.. did you just call out blaze +rep, blaze is my boy but that was a good post lolz

He calls everyone out and yet he always gets put down like a mad dog. He then takes revenge in the form of -rep :sy:.

 

[Retsu]

Honestly Blaze, was this neccessary?

 

[Blaze Release]

Minato's not immune to genjutsu, if Itachi could be put in one Minato can be put in one though his skills allow him to avoid illusions.

Against Tobi, its more likely that he didn't look into his eyes because---

1. Minato knew about Madara's control of Kurama and that the illusion won't last long so he has an intricate knowledge of the Sharingan,

2. He came unbelievably close to Tobi's face that its impossible that he didn't see it unless he wasn't looking at it because Kakashi could spot it at a distance.

3. Anytime he flashes back to Tobi,its always a dark spot there.

The Totsuka can most likely seal anything, though not Kurama since the fox's skin can't be pierced.

Dead Demon Consuming Seal can seal anything, if it sealed just half of Kurama, nothing stops Minato from simply stretching the arm to seal again, Hiruzen used it 3 times.

Peace.

Wow just wow. Seems like i might actually start to take my time with you from now on :noc:

Ive even listed more reasons why tobi did here;
Firstly you can argue plot and nobody can deny it. The characters have no will of their own, kishi is who controls them so for the sake of the story to continue kishi would create scenarios. If tobi had succeeded there wouldnt be a story at all.

Secondly its a manga fact that controlling a tailed beast requires alot of control. Tobi was controlling the fox with his visible sharigan. He cannot control both the fox and minato simultaneously with the same sharingan.

Thirdly tobi's even though tobi's mask doesnt cover his visible sharigan. Not a lot of people know he had a sharigan. Dediora for example who is a sharingan hater after what itachi did to him, didnt know that tobi had the sharingan or else he would want to fight him.When tobi stalled team kakashi during their retrieval for sasuke, all of them came close to him in proximity and yet none of them noticed his sharingan. Only kakashi did because he also had the sharingan.

Honestly Blaze, was this neccessary?

At the start i did say i cannot believe i was creating this thread, because i was surprised by the things that people were saying and in the end a thread was needed imo

 

[Bogard]

Firstly you can argue plot and nobody can deny it. The characters have no will of their own, kishi is who controls them so for the sake of the story to continue kishi would create scenarios. If tobi had succeeded there wouldnt be a story at all.

Maybe but there was also a plot no jutsu for Tobi to live at that time. Normally Minato could have kill him if he wanted at that time. After all, what would have happened if Minato had decided to follow Tobi and kill him? It was not impossible at all cuz he had already the markings. What would have happen if instead of stopping the control of Tobi and put a kunai in his stomach, he had cut his head? Like what would have happened if instead of using the rasengan on his body, he would have used it on his head? But i agree with you that sometimes character do things really stupid. I think about Naruto vs Kakuzu here.

Secondly its a manga fact that controlling a tailed beast requires alot of control. Tobi was controlling the fox with his visible sharigan. He cannot control both the fox and minato simultaneously with the same sharingan.

The problem in what you're saying is that we're seeing right now that it's not impossible for him at all to control multiple Bijuus at the same time(there were 6 of them). Also even if you were right, don't forget that Minato actually released the Kyubi during the fight. So he had nothing more to care at that time.Why had he not try genjutsu on Minato, but he prefered flee away?

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Wow just wow. Seems like i might actually start to take my time with you from now on :noc:

Ive even listed more reasons why tobi did here;
Firstly you can argue plot and nobody can deny it. The characters have no will of their own, kishi is who controls them so for the sake of the story to continue kishi would create scenarios. If tobi had succeeded there wouldnt be a story at all.

Secondly its a manga fact that controlling a tailed beast requires alot of control. Tobi was controlling the fox with his visible sharigan. He cannot control both the fox and minato simultaneously with the same sharingan.

Thirdly tobi's even though tobi's mask doesnt cover his visible sharigan. Not a lot of people know he had a sharigan. Dediora for example who is a sharingan hater after what itachi did to him, didnt know that tobi had the sharingan or else he would want to fight him.When tobi stalled team kakashi during their retrieval for sasuke, all of them came close to him in proximity and yet none of them noticed his sharingan. Only kakashi did because he also had the sharingan.



At the start i did say i cannot believe i was creating this thread, because i was surprised by the things that people were saying and in the end a thread was needed imo

Naruto Rasengan'd him from behind so its understandable that he didn't see face to face attack.

Their other shown attack was Yamato attacking from a distance with Mokuton while Kiba distracted him. Then Kiba going to attack head on.

Kakashi seeing it because he has a Sharingan is flawed since Sasuke also met Tobi and didn't see it.

If controlling Kurama didn't hinder Tobi from using his Sharingan st tech, why would it hinder him from using normal Sharingan genjutsu.I think genjutsu just isn't Tobi's style since he has only used it when he has already defeated the enemy. Example Konan, Fu, Torune but the fact is Minato has never flashed back to Tobi and remembered a Sharingan so he didn't see it, considering how close they were, he most likely wasn't looking at it as Kakashi could spot it from a distance(having Sharingan doesn't matter as I've explained with Sasuke and Tobi's meeting) this coupled with Minato's knowledge of detail of Madara's control of Kurama shows he's no novice to the Sharingan. He most likely wasn't making any eye contact.

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

Thankyou... Funny when I stated genjutsu works on all people dissed me

But @Blaze release don't take up for any idiot minato fanboy I personally like minato but I always have destroy weak arguments posted by minato fans

They say dumb shit like he will teleport before it can be casted... He won't even know he is in genjutsu how will he get away..

He is a kage im, sure he has some genjutsu counter... No he is a student of jiraiya they all suck in that field

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

Sure is a long post, I read most of it.
If I had to argue this I would simply say that the only people that are invulnerable to genjutsu are Jinchuuriki. Minato obviously isn't a jinchuuriki, so end of argument.

Also it should be noted that we haven't seen Tobi use any Sharingan(MS/EMS) techniques other than Izanagi which (arguably) requires Senju DNA.

That's just dumb bee got caught by itachi & sasuke dropped him yugura controlled by tobi jinchuriki aren't exempt they just can break out easier

 

[NarutoKage2]

when did i say i never neg rep you ? i did but only to return the favor, because i got neg rep just because someone don't agree with me, while i never did that, and what i say is nowhere near BS

you can ask uzumaki16,-vegeta-, and ajpn dude, i always have disagreement with them in almost every thread, but none of them got neg repped by me the same thing goes for them

i only neg rep people 1st if they post fake link(virus link or something like that), like what always happen in naruto manga section when it get near to manga release time.

the childish thing is, if you disagree with some people and started to insult them and neg rep them, that's what childish is, hate losing and get angry pretty easily just because you can't take what he said while they only stated what they think, and people like owarij and itachi namikaze never stated BS and idiotic post i can vouch for that.:noc:

As i recall, all those threads were troll threads and many of them had to be locked down. It was'nt just you, everyone who kept on spamming those threads was feeding a troll, thus the neg rep.


And i don't really have a beef with Itachi Namikaze, i was dissing on Uchiha fanboys in general and he got mad i think.

He calls everyone out and yet he always gets put down like a mad dog. He then takes revenge in the form of -rep :sy:.

What's that, son? If i'm getting put down then why you cry to other members about me?

 

[Red Slayer]

agree +rep