Minato immune to Genjutsu?

[Blaze Release]

I wanted to see the proof where the databook says that totsuka can seal everything, but nobody was able to show me that. U_U

This is going off topic, but anyway there you go. The 8 tails was sealed by a legendary weapon, the kohaku no johei. I see no reason why another legendary sealing weapon cannot achieve the same feat.

You say you want the databook where it says the sword can seal anything?.
There you go;

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Thanks to Owarij ^^

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

This is going off topic, but anyway there you go. The 8 tails was sealed by a legendary weapon, the kohaku no johei. I see no reason why another legendary sealing weapon cannot achieve the same feat.

You say you want the databook where it says the sword can seal anything?.
There you go;

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Thanks to Owarij ^^

you beat me to it, i was searching in mangahelpers and naruto forum LOL

 

[Baka Sennin]

Its fair to say minato fans make up the minority on nb and 98% of their fanbase is made up of intellectual people who can come up with good arguments, whilst the 2% are the less intelligent once (Baka sennin, fourth hoakge of the leaf, Itachi Namikaze)

i think you need to switch the percentages and interpretations around, I don't like being referred to as a stupid minority appreciate the hats off though

anyway,of course Minato can suffer from genjutsu. to say otherwise is just idiocy, you needn't have gone to all that trouble.

I do believe however, that he was skilled at breaking them (Orochimaru for example was able to break Itachi's genjutsu, but he was too close to Itachi and got struck before he could do so. Kurenai was also able to break a counter-genjutsu of Itachi iirc.) It would be weird if Minato was say, as able as Naruto in breaking genjutsu given his chakra control, and the way he's presented. Also, his method of fighting makes it hard to catch him inside a genjutsu AND exploit it. but it can definitely be done.

 

[Bogard]

This is going off topic, but anyway there you go. The 8 tails was sealed by a legendary weapon, the kohaku no johei. I see no reason why another legendary sealing weapon cannot achieve the same feat.

You say you want the databook where it says the sword can seal anything?.
There you go;

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

Thanks to Owarij ^^

Euh sorry but i don't see where it's stated "it seals everything". It's only stated how it works. Maybe i didn't read well, but that is what is stated: "a blade with the power to plunge those it pierces into a genjutsu..and seal them away for all time." And after that it's said "the blade is imbued with sealing jutsu". That only shows that it has sealing jutsus, but that doesn't mean the seal is powerful enough that it can seal an entire Bijuu or it can seal everything. Shiki fujin also has sealing jutsu that seal for all time also. The dragon seal also. But they can't do that.

I only want to know, so don't think i say that cuz i don't want to see totsuka sealing everything. After all, so far we know, it can seal all human in an instant. It's already powerful enough. :shrug:

For the kohaku no johei, excuse me but i don't know what it is. :shrug:

 

[Kurama2012]

It is all Kishis doing, the characters are fake, they don't control themselves. So there is no point in saying why didn't minato do this or that, ask Kishi.

this made me laugh lmao

 

[SupErAkaTsuKI]

Scared?, no need to be :flaw:. There are people on here who i take seriously and actually take my time with them, you or that guy arent one of them. Btw read this thread, read all his posts then you'd see why i dont take my time with him also;

You must be registered for see links

That's your counter argument, whew very logical!

& your reason why Tobi didn't use genjutsu against Minato is Plot no Jutsu..
I'll just let you believe in that!!

 

[Blaze Release]

Euh sorry but i don't see where it's stated "it seals everything". It's only stated how it works. Maybe i didn't read well, but that is what is stated: "a blade with the power to plunge those it pierces into a genjutsu..and seal them away for all time." And after that it's said "the blade is imbued with sealing jutsu". That only shows that it has sealing jutsus, but that doesn't mean the seal is powerful enough that it can seal an entire Bijuu or it can seal everything. Shiki fujin also has sealing jutsu that seal for all time also. The dragon seal also. But they can't do that.

I only want to know, so don't think i say that cuz i don't want to see totsuka sealing everything. After all, so far we know, it can seal all human in an instant. It's already powerful enough. :shrug:

For the kohaku no johei, excuse me but i don't know what it is. :shrug:

"To plunge those it pieces". Im sure that means if it pierces you end up in the bottle. The kohaku no johei is the amber purifying pot

 

[Blaze Release]

That's your counter argument, whew very logical!

& your reason why Tobi didn't use genjutsu against Minato is Plot no Jutsu..
I'll just let you believe in that!!

Ill try and make this as simple as possible so much so that even you can understand. Firstly you can argue plot and nobody can deny it. The characters have no will of their own, kishi is who controls them so for the sake of the story to continue kishi would create scenarios. If tobi had succeeded there wouldnt be a story at all.

Secondly its a manga fact that controlling a tailed beast requires alot of control. Tobi was controlling the fox with his visible sharigan. He cannot control both the fox and minato simultaneously with the same sharingan.

Thirdly tobi's even though tobi's mask doesnt cover his visible sharigan. Not a lot of people know he had a sharigan. Dediora for example who is a sharingan hater after what itachi did to him, didnt know that tobi had the sharingan or else he would want to fight him.

When tobi stalled team kakashi during their retrieval for sasuke, all of them came close to him in proximity and yet none of them noticed his sharingan. Only kakashi did because he also had the sharingan.

 

[Bogard]

"To plunge those it pieces". Im sure that means if it pierces you end up in the bottle. The kohaku no johei is the amber purifying pot

This is the databook about Shiki fujin. I took that on magahelpers.

Corpse Demon Consuming Seal (屍鬼封尽, Shiki Fuujin)
Fuuinjutsu, S-rank, Offensive, Close range (0-5m)
User: Sandaime Hokage

Giving up one's own life to the God of Death, one can seal the soul of one's sworn enemy forever!!

This ultimate Fuuinjutsu can, by sacrificing one's own life, seal the target's soul for all eternity. Once, the Yondaime Hokage used this jutsu to seal the Kyuubi no Youko, loosing his own life. Because of this technique so secret, even a shinobi like Orochimaru didn't know about, the late Sandaime is now entombed in eternal darkness, seemingly never to see the sunlight again...

For those who've seen this shape, no technique exists to allow them to escape the Realm of the Dead~~

Like you can see, it's said that it seal for all eternity, and there is no escape. But what i mean it's that rule exist only for normal ninja. Even Shiki fujin couldn't seal an entire Kyubi, and even against the half of his chakra it couldn't seal contain him forever(it was said that the seal was weakened with the time).

That's why i doubt really that even totsuka can seal an entire Bijuu. Or if it seals, it couldn't last long. But without proof, i can't say it can't also. It was only a hypothesis.

 

[Blaze Release]

This is the databook about Shiki fujin. I took that on magahelpers.

Like you can see, it's said that it seal for all eternity, and there is no escape. But what i mean it's that rule exist only for normal ninja. Even Shiki fujin couldn't seal an entire Kyubi, and even against the half of his chakra it couldn't seal contain him forever(it was said that the seal was weakened with the time).

That's why i doubt really that even totsuka can seal an entire Bijuu, but i'm not saying it can't.

You are confusing ninjutsu to a legendary weapon. What a legendary weapon can do, a ninjutsu wouldnt be able to. If one legendary sealing weapon has achieved this feat already, i see no reason why another legendary sealing weapon cannot

 

[Bogard]

You are confusing ninjutsu to a legendary weapon. What a legendary weapon can do, a ninjutsu wouldnt be able to. If one legendary sealing weapon has achieved this feat already, i see no reason why another legendary sealing weapon cannot

I don't know what you mean but Shiki fujin is a jutsu that summon the God of Death himself, and even him couldn't do that. You talk aboout "legendary weapons" as if cuz they are legendary they can do everything. For example, Kusanagi is also an legendary weapon that was said to be able to cut everything even diamond, but it couldn't even hurt Kyubis chakras shroud.

Also don't compare those 2weapons(totsuka and the other one you mentionned). If i'm not confusing you talk about a weapon Rikudoo created himself. And don't forget that even Bijuus were created by him. So if his weapon can do that, that couldn't surprise me, cuz he is the one who created both of them, and could have created these weapons to protect the world against Bijuus. I don't think i've heard that totsuka was a Rikudoos weapon.

Anyway, we're going far from the topic. So i think it will be better if we talk about that on my topic if you want.

 

[Blaze Release]

I don't know what you mean but Shiki fujin is a jutsu that summon the God of Death himself, and even him couldn't do that. You talk aboout "legendary weapons" as if cuz they are legendary they can do everything. For example, Kusanagi is also an legendary weapon that was said to be able to cut everything even diamond, but it couldn't even hurt Kyubis chakras shroud.

Also don't compare those 2weapons(totsuka and the other one you mentionned). If i'm not confusing you talk about a weapon Rikudoo created himself. And don't forget that even Bijuus were created by him. So if his weapon can do that, that couldn't surprise me, cuz he is the one who created both of them, and could have created these weapons to protect the world against Bijuus. I don't think i've heard that totsuka was a Rikudoos weapon.

Anyway, we're going far from the topic. So i think it will be better if we talk about that on my topic.

Okay we are going off topic here there ill make it as quick as possible. The power gap between the bijuu's are great. The power gap between the 8 tails and 9 tails is great. So whilst the amber purifying pot sealed the 8 tails, we dont know whether it can contain the 9 tails.

Similarly whether the death god can seal of the 8 tails is unknown, it just came up against a much greater bijuu who's chakra is the greatest of them all, excluding the 10 tails.

I agree the pot is supposedly one of the sage's weapons, whilst we dont know who the spiritual weapons belonged to. True nobody can for definite say that the totsuka can seal a tailed beast, but similarly we cannot say that the pot can seal the 9 tails even. What im saying is that if one legendary weapon whether the sage's or not can contain a bijuu, i see no reason why another cannot, but nobody knows the answer to this. The closest to this is what the pot has achieved

 

[Insubstantial]

This is the databook about Shiki fujin. I took that on magahelpers.

Like you can see, it's said that it seal for all eternity, and there is no escape. But what i mean it's that rule exist only for normal ninja. Even Shiki fujin couldn't seal an entire Kyubi, and even against the half of his chakra it couldn't seal contain him forever(it was said that the seal was weakened with the time).

That's why i doubt really that even totsuka can seal an entire Bijuu. Or if it seals, it couldn't last long. But without proof, i can't say it can't also. It was only a hypothesis.

Minato purposely didn't seal the entire Kyuubi so that he could leave half of the chakra in Naruto so he could be ready to fight Tobi, so it's not that he couldn't seal the 9 tails he just didn't want to.

 

[NarutoKage2]

Spoiler

a

Haha, ive noticed that you like getting off topic in discussions when you cannot take it. Seen you go after owarij, ctIceman and just yesterday Itachi Namikaze. I remember youve even -repped me 3 times when i went against minato. But you see unlike them, im not interested in these type of internet fracas, id rather prefer to talk about naruto.

As for the doesnt have a life part, you see if thats what you believe then its all good. All i can see is another fuming fan, obviously nothing to flinch at if anything point and laugh at.

Also seems to lack any sort of imagination with your rather flimsy 'insult' about my post account. Could've at least tried harder with the insults. Might give you a second try, do your best

Nice way to avoid addressing the most important part of my post, namely that nowhere has the manga stated that only a jinchuurki can get out of genjutsu. But i guess you interpret that as 'getting off topic' since it disproves you.

P.S: And why're you stalking me in other threads? You need to get out more, its not healthy.

 

[Blaze Release]

Nice way to avoid addressing the most important part of my post, namely that nowhere has the manga stated that only a jinchuurki can get out of genjutsu. But i guess you interpret that as 'getting off topic' since it disproves you.

P.S: And why're you stalking me in other threads? You need to get out more, its not healthy.

Nobody is stalking you :shrug:, ive already been in those threads already .
Anyway it seems like im not the only person here who see's the bitch in you. Get butt hurt and start personal insults. Also like to -rep if you cannot take it :sy:

 

[kiiroi senk0u]

i don't know what gives you to insult minato fans too much
but the fact is when u like a character it's not about power but more about achievements
so insulting the fans is wrong

i saw the thread and post both and agree that minato is not immune to genjutsu
but remember everything in this series is a plot
as for ex. when sasuke and itachi fought i never expected anything like susano would appear
but it happened .
now let's come to the actual point's i don't know much about the manga facts as i used to watch anime before the kage summit .
but about genjutsu it was stated that it works by manipulating the victim's flow of chakra and uchiha are not the only one who can cast genjutsu .
but they are good at seeing through it , also it depend on the skill of the genjutsu user , ex. is itachi vs sasuke fight where where even sasuke couldn't see through itachi's genjutsu .
now let's talk about the counter of genjutsu.
on anime jiraiya told naruto that by molding your chakra flow you can free urself from
genjutsu , but itachi casted it again & got naruto again
but the point is neither jiraiya nor naruto were good at genjutsu
if i talk about minato i'm sure he is better at chakra molding , he can't breakthrough very strong genjutsu though .
but there is a way , u can avoid eye contact , look at tobi vs minato fight he sensed his position by touching the ground and surly avoided the eye contact when he looked towards him .
so he might not be immune to genjutsu , but possibly can avoid or can even break through it , well we are talking about a character who never made enough feet that's
why lots of can be assumed .

and in the very little feet whatever he did was greatest thing done by any character
in the show not just a fanboy a big big minato fan

 

[NarutoKage2]

Nobody is stalking you :shrug:, ive already been in those threads already .
Anyway it seems like im not the only person here who see's the bitch in you. Get butt hurt and start personal insults. Also like to -rep if you cannot take it :sy:

Lol now use insults because you got owned and have nothing left to say.Those other 2 idiots did the same to me about the neg repping thing, so its not like they're any different. And why do you care about rep, unless you're a rep ***** that is(high prob for most people who whine about getting neg repped).


And why do you avoid arguing the points, are they too much to handle?

 

[Blaze Release]

Spoiler

i don't know what gives you to insult minato fans too much
but the fact is when u like a character it's not about power but more about achievements
so insulting the fans is wrong

i saw the thread and post both and agree that minato is not immune to genjutsu
but remember everything in this series is a plot
as for ex. when sasuke and itachi fought i never expected anything like susano would appear
but it happened .
now let's come to the actual point's i don't know much about the manga facts as i used to watch anime before the kage summit .
but about genjutsu it was stated that it works by manipulating the victim's flow of chakra and uchiha are not the only one who can cast genjutsu .
but they are good at seeing through it , also it depend on the skill of the genjutsu user , ex. is itachi vs sasuke fight where where even sasuke couldn't see through itachi's genjutsu .
now let's talk about the counter of genjutsu.
on anime jiraiya told naruto that by molding your chakra flow you can free urself from
genjutsu , but itachi casted it again & got naruto again
but the point is neither jiraiya nor naruto were good at genjutsu
if i talk about minato i'm sure he is better at chakra molding , he can't breakthrough very strong genjutsu though .
but there is a way , u can avoid eye contact , look at tobi vs minato fight he sensed his position by touching the ground and surly avoided the eye contact when he looked towards him .
so he might not be immune to genjutsu , but possibly can avoid or can even break through it , well we are talking about a character who never made enough feet that's
why lots of can be assumed .

and in the very little feet whatever he did was greatest thing done by any character
in the show not just a fanboy a big big minato fan

+ rep first of all and you are right, i do like to poke jibe's at his fanbase, simply because ive heard the most outrageous things from them, no different to how people also poke jibe's at sasuke fans who call him 'lord'. Also argued other points apart from plot

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Lol now use insults because you got owned and have nothing left to say.Those other 2 idiots did the same to me about the neg repping thing, so its not like they're any different. And why do you care about rep, unless you're a rep ***** that is(high prob for most people who whine about getting neg repped).


And why do you avoid arguing the points, are they too much to handle?

truth be told, i never neg rep people 1st, i just return the favor when people do that to me, but sometimes i don't do that

 

[Blaze Release]

Lol now use insults because you got owned and have nothing left to say.Those other 2 idiots did the same to me about the neg repping thing, so its not like they're any different. And why do you care about rep, unless you're a rep ***** that is(high prob for most people who whine about getting neg repped).


And why do you avoid arguing the points, are they too much to handle?

Owned?, this guy is a joke. I dont care about rep, but if somebody cannot take something and - rep you, then its them who care enough about rep in the first place.

Anyway ive already mocked you enough, no different to what cticeman and just yesterday itachi namikaze did to you. Its rather obvious that you like to get into these type of internet arguments. Because of this lust, id refrain from continuing this.

Wonder who would put you in your place next :|