The Rennigan DOESNT require Senju DNA!!!
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Thanks for that. Good thing ive an account there. Its all good if he uses it, but if he makes it sound like his own, thats where the problem begins. I should get a copy right U_U
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interesting then meaning naruto is no where near getting rinnegan and sasuke will get rinnegan fighting naruto awsome very nice thread lo0ved it read it awsome
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i don't see how itachi could know about all of this since he didn't even have the ability to decipher much of what was on the tablet.
You sir... need to read up on your manga... from the two tails to the six tails had both rinnegan and sharingan if I am not mistaken... So, yeah. It can be implanted willy nilly. The pic that convinced me was the rinnegan-like circles that he pointed to above the four sharingans… that in itself... Plus... you need to take the translations with a grain of salt... Re: Why Rinnegan naturally follows EMS
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Just to point something out, but there is no "you" in the line you've quoted in the Japanese script.
This is the line you're talking about.
カブト（ムウ）: やはり憶測通り…� ��写輪眼の行きつく先は… 輪廻眼で したか
Kabuto: It's just as I thought...... The sharingan's final step...... was the rinnegan.
So it's a pretty neutral statement, not really referencing anyone, but just talking purely about the eye itself.
You sir....need to read more of the comments. Blaze and I already cleared this up and saw a little more where each other was coming from. What I was referring to was the idea that anyone can use an implanted Rinnegan, which both Blaze and I agree isn't true since it takes someone with a VERY high amount of chakra. The reason the two-six tails can use both the sharingan and rinnegan is because they are DEAD! Remember? Those revived by the Edo Tensi don't consume chakra, so that's why the dead hosts of the two-six tails can use the Rinnegan. But thanks for your input
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I think the main reason madara fought hashi was because of the war between the 2 clans and his clan betraying him.his ulterior motive was to obtain his abilities but that's just my opinion
It would be illogical for Rinnegan to need Senju DnA.
At Rikudo Sennins Era there where no Senjus...
How did he got it then?
Also Senju and Uchiha Dnas are watered down versions of their original ancestors.
Since the clans get mixed with other clans during a long period of time and they die out eventualy.
TYS and TES would be the best and most orignal sources of DNA too recreate a Rikudo Sennin or at least a Rinnegan.
The only way how I imagine a Rinnegan becoming into excistance is :
Uchiha who has EMS : Gets Senju DNA ( too enchance hes chakra levels too an ultimate level ) .
Now : you have to put an extreme amount of stress on the EMS = that's why you need Senju DNA = to go all out.
after this the EMS will have a chance too evolve into a Rinnegan.
At Rikudo Sennins Era there where no Senjus...
How did he got it then?
Also Senju and Uchiha Dnas are watered down versions of their original ancestors.
Since the clans get mixed with other clans during a long period of time and they die out eventualy.
TYS and TES would be the best and most orignal sources of DNA too recreate a Rikudo Sennin or at least a Rinnegan.
The only way how I imagine a Rinnegan becoming into excistance is :
Uchiha who has EMS : Gets Senju DNA ( too enchance hes chakra levels too an ultimate level ) .
Now : you have to put an extreme amount of stress on the EMS = that's why you need Senju DNA = to go all out.
after this the EMS will have a chance too evolve into a Rinnegan.
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zohoho.I've created this acc just to add something here; my thoughts.
First off,.. Blaze, hands down the sickest thread I've ever read anywhere..
So, Viewtiful (please, please read the whole thing :$):
1. Are you sure that the Sharingan is an evolution of the Rinnegan? It was said that the fist son (Uchiha Clan Ancestor) was born with the sage's eyes. But like Blaze said... it looks weaker, an incomplete version, a "primitive" version of the original Dōjutsu (Rinnegan). I guess the first son just wasn't born with the chakra needed to have the Rinnegan.
So this is a wild guess but still: I'm thinking that because the Uchiha Clan Ancestor didn't have the chakra needed for the Rinnegan he gained the Sharingan through time, which was still powerful.
With this he created a slow process, which goal is: eventually gaining the most powerful of the Three Great Dōjutsu, the Rinnegan.
This also supports Blaze's theory of the two brothers (the younger one and the older one). The Senju Clan Ancestor was born with the life force and physical energy of the Sage of the Six Paths, also being his heir. The older brother was born with his eyes, but as suggested, his powers weren't even near the powers of his brother, right? So this would explain the Uchihas (Madara, maybe Sasuke...) thirst for power, which is in my opinion painfully obvious throughout the manga. Here we can also find the source of what they both believe in. The younger brother believed that love was the key to peace and the older brother believed that force and strength were the key to peace, because the older brother was always searching for ways to getting stronger, surpassing the younger brother.
2. This is one more interesting thing that I found out: The Rinnegan means Samsara Eye, right?
Samsara: "literally meaning "continuous flow", is the cycle of birth, life, death, rebirth or reincarnation..."
This would support your theory, Viewtiful, that the Sharingan is an evolution of the Rinnegan. The whole process of this evolution is just a circle of life. Rinnegan->Sharingan->MS->EMS->Rinnegan and back again, because every true bloodline user can switch from one to the other when he wants... a circle. Also the abilities of the Rinnegan are of course connected with the meaning of Samsara. And yes... the Rinnegan is the final stage, or the first... being the reincarnated eye of the one who has already died or is about to die (Madara's case).
IMO: no...the Rinnegan does not require Senju DNA, it's just a part of the process of ones life. The keys to unlocking the Dōjutsu,... different to every person I guess. But I do agree with Blaze's statements.
I hope you don't find this post provocative in any way. My only purpose was to share my thoughts and maybe stimulate an even greater discussion.
ThankYou
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There are soo many good points here. Senxy comes up with viewtiful things in support of it's an evolution. I believe it too but what i also believe in is that you need a certain senju dna to unlock it's full potential. I believe this partly because.If the first sons lineage could go through evolutions then why couldn't the second's? If the eyes are the sharingan's cycle then couldn't the senju's life force and that also be something that can be unlocked? We all agree that the senju's dna is like an amplifier right? so let's get to my point.
Let's take hashirama for example. In HIS TIME he is proclaimed by all as the greatest ninja. His sole element in which only he had was wood with which he could summon forests in an instant and stuff. What if this was because he had unlocked the full potential of their lineage's genes much like the sharingan unlocks further things. That would then give madara the spur to fight him and solely him to in turn push his boundaries to unlock his to the highest aswell.
Then we have the 2nd Tobirama. if he wasn't at his prime when madara was around then what if he came to his prime later on?? there is no evidence to support or disclaim it so let's say it is a possibility. If he were to unlock the full potential later on then this would explain why madara only fought the best senju. Tobirama was considered a master of the water style which was his element. But then they say he was soo legendary he could do them without any water source near him? would explain why he could use such powerful jutsu with out any source of water. He had unlocked the potential of his genes and was able to amplify the things he had ie water in the air and hashirama's growth of his wood/forest jutsu's. Would also add a valid point onto why madara could do the 1st's jutsu past what the 1st could do. coz madara now has both senju and uchiha and full potential.
Another point that validates my statement is that of naruto. It's still kinda shady that uzumaki and senju are related. But if they are it will support this. Naruto has been growing and unlocking more and more which everybody thinks is coz of nine tails. but i believe it has actually solely been from him and his perseverance. And what if naruto has just reached his full potential just recently? ie when naruto was with yamato on the island. Yamato grows a massive totem statue thing and gives a direct reference to naruto and his life force being the reason? soo this helps say that nauto is a senju and he has evolutionised his senju genes to it's full potential!!!
all i am saying is that you may not need the senju dna to unlock the rinnegan but you damn well need it to do the crazy impossibilites!! then this would open the idea sauke is yet to unlock his potential. coz right now if they would go head to head naruto would mop the floor with him. How many sage clones did he make and wipe all the other enemies out?? and this is another example that he recently unlocked it. Also if naruto and bee are going on par with jinchuuriki's both with sharingan and rinnegan if it was soo good without senju they woulda annhialated him already. All wells gg on this post hope youread it
ps i still think tobi is the elder son.
Let's take hashirama for example. In HIS TIME he is proclaimed by all as the greatest ninja. His sole element in which only he had was wood with which he could summon forests in an instant and stuff. What if this was because he had unlocked the full potential of their lineage's genes much like the sharingan unlocks further things. That would then give madara the spur to fight him and solely him to in turn push his boundaries to unlock his to the highest aswell.
Then we have the 2nd Tobirama. if he wasn't at his prime when madara was around then what if he came to his prime later on?? there is no evidence to support or disclaim it so let's say it is a possibility. If he were to unlock the full potential later on then this would explain why madara only fought the best senju. Tobirama was considered a master of the water style which was his element. But then they say he was soo legendary he could do them without any water source near him? would explain why he could use such powerful jutsu with out any source of water. He had unlocked the potential of his genes and was able to amplify the things he had ie water in the air and hashirama's growth of his wood/forest jutsu's. Would also add a valid point onto why madara could do the 1st's jutsu past what the 1st could do. coz madara now has both senju and uchiha and full potential.
Another point that validates my statement is that of naruto. It's still kinda shady that uzumaki and senju are related. But if they are it will support this. Naruto has been growing and unlocking more and more which everybody thinks is coz of nine tails. but i believe it has actually solely been from him and his perseverance. And what if naruto has just reached his full potential just recently? ie when naruto was with yamato on the island. Yamato grows a massive totem statue thing and gives a direct reference to naruto and his life force being the reason? soo this helps say that nauto is a senju and he has evolutionised his senju genes to it's full potential!!!
all i am saying is that you may not need the senju dna to unlock the rinnegan but you damn well need it to do the crazy impossibilites!! then this would open the idea sauke is yet to unlock his potential. coz right now if they would go head to head naruto would mop the floor with him. How many sage clones did he make and wipe all the other enemies out?? and this is another example that he recently unlocked it. Also if naruto and bee are going on par with jinchuuriki's both with sharingan and rinnegan if it was soo good without senju they woulda annhialated him already. All wells gg on this post hope youread it
ps i still think tobi is the elder son.
You didnt mention about older son of Sage, and hes very important factor here. He was direct descendant of Sage, was said to inherit his father "eyes", yet he didnt posses the Rinnegan, but some unkown Doujutsu with spiral-like pattern.
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-> That thing here seems to be much more similar to the Doujutsu of older son, not the Rinnegan.Where in my comment did I say the Rinnegan was transplanted in the two-six tails host? All I said was Edo Tensi doens't require them to use chakra. I wasn't trying to imply they were transplants. That was the other guy
Hmm it does sort of look like it could be that. I think that's too much to speculate though, because we don't even know why the older son's eyes look so different. To me, the older son's eyes look like the Uzumaki symobl for some reason. And he's the only one we've ever seen with eyes like that. Makes me wonder if it was just how the drawing is or if he really had a different doujutsu. And if it was different, how come the evolution stages of the Sharingan seem to pass right by the older son's doujutsu and go straight to the Rinnegan. Guess we'll have to wait for more of the manga on that though
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