Wtf? Goku vs Superman? You serious?

Goku x Superman

  • Goku -Saiyan Legend.

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  • Superman -Man of Steel.

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A Naruto fan might ask "Why make a character that can blow up planets?". Its all a matter of perspective. If that Superman was placed into the DBZ universe, yes, he would seem ridiculous. But when he's placed in his own universe with enemies as powerful as he is, it works out fine.

You can't restrict their abilities, it has to be full power vs. full power or else it doesn't make any sense. You could make either character win depending on what restrictions you put on them. Really it was just a bad match up, so I guess the one to blame is the thread creator. :p
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Sorry, what? It isn't like I made this up myself, and prior to finding out about PC Super ( I just found about him today ) I felt it was stupid to think Superman could beat Goku. Modern Superman hasn't a chance. PC on the other hand is plain ridiculous, as I've said several times.
 

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Goku wins this. Goku ssj4 spirit bomb could destroy part of the universe. super man once meditated in the sun, thats impressive but goku can rape everything. it would be an epic fight too.
 

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Goku.. Instant transmission kamehameha
superman can hear the transmission and he can even see goku no matter where he is in the universe so he would know that theres a kamehameha charging up and will dodge faster then the speed of light. He could probably even smell where goku is and win with a blindfold on...
 

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What the **** is pre crisis
Pre-crisis refers to Superman's prime he had many powers and mental abilities and it is the stage in his life where his strength and speed are at their highest... This is also the main point in the Goku vs Superman argument and the main reason there is an argument is that generally people know one side and assume they know the other... Manga and Comics are two similar yet also very different reffered tastes in literature and often someone does one and not the other or very little of the other misinformation is key in this argument which is why people are so vehemently opposed to the other side... Superman had far less abilities in his original form than in his most powerful form he basically had; Super strength, leaping great distances, super speed and near invulnerability (he couldn't even fully fly yet, it was added in after the first 6-10 years of Superman) most people refer to this as golden age Superman, however after years of plot and honing his powers (and realizing new ones) we have silver age or pre-crisis Superman the strongest of the three ages in this time Superman can travel many times faster than the speed of light, is fully invulnerable to nearly every deadly force (excluding some forms of radiation like from kryptonite or magical energy wave lengths as most magic is multi dimensional), move planets and entire cosmos with his strength, intense optical lasers to any strength the man of steel can muster in stamina which is very very nearly without limit whatsoever... For silver age Superman it may seem I'm being exaggerating but honestly I'm not there are many hundreds of Superman comics each with different adventures and they wrote him so they could have a truly fanciful and ultimate hero even if his potential is unrealistic (not that every comic book hero and action manga hero isn't I swear they're all so F-ing rediculous)... Now however a super ultimate omega over powered super hero doesn't make a very good story if the hero can't lose or if his opponents are outclassed in every definition of the word, which is why we have post crisis Superman... Post crisis Superman is much weaker and much more vulnerable than pre crisis, post crisis lost many of his powers; hypnosis, ventriloquism, super healing and was weakened greatly in; strength, speed, agility, reflexes, invulnerability, stamina, resilience, super vision, optical lasers, super breath... Basically every thing. Unfortunately however most people see this form of Superman as the end all be all of Superman as it is the level of power portrayed most often by television, the movies, and other media in general... ... ...

As far as my understanding goes if Goku in adult form with a tail, who required a minimum of 2 minutes to charge a spirit bomb (even though it was usually much longer), can use kaioken up to x20 (I think that's as far as he ever took it before reaching SSJ1 which is technically x50 power), can transform into all four super Saiyan forms, can use instant transmission so long as he takes the time to find an energy signature to use it (he can do it to Superman, however precrisis and post crisis have mental abilities that can sense if Goku performed this near him or directly to him), and Goku does not have any of the Dragon Balls with him and they are not being used by anyone to aid him or hinder Superman...
If Superman had the powers from his golden age Superman would put up a good fight until Goku entered SSJ1 or 2 as this Superman has no mental abilities to assist him and has the smallest variety of powers which drastically limits his strategic options, however due to Superman's resilience and strength it would probably take the power of SSJ2 to finish him although SSJ1 would dominate the majority of the fight...
If Superman had the powers from post crisis Superman would be generally equal but slightly greater than that of SSJ3 and would put up a much better fight in power, strategy and skill compared to Golden Age, however again due to Superman's profound invulnerability and resilience while Goku could easily dominate the fight in SSJ4 it would probably take the power of the spirit bomb or multiple dragon fists to finish off Superman...
Finally if Superman had the powers of his precrisis form Goku would put up a moderately long and arduous fight (probably prolonged by Superman's general unwillingness to kill a good person or especially a fellow hero) however virtually all of Goku's techniques would be useless and do little to no damage and none of it to the point of dire injury or anything near it Superman would simply be stronger, faster, more resilient and far far too tough to be killed, to kill precrisis Superman would require a being designed to do exactly and specifically that (and trust me DC Comics has plenty of those beings).
 
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there is no way that superman can beat a super saiyan 4 goku... goku can easily destroy planets and everything on that planet including steel so, superman couldnt do anything
 

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What's all this talk that goku can't destroy a planet?? Cells kamehameha attack against goku was enough to destroy the planet as stated by goku before he launched cells attack into space with his own kamehameha :) look how early in the series that was as well
 

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goku cudda been super sayin 50 he still wudnt defeat doomsday...if he kills doomsday,w.e form he used doomsday would adapt and be able 2 use all of his abilites...its like fighting a mirror...and he has 2 die in order 2 obtain the killers abilities....so goku would be fighting all day until he died...

goku= teleport away and blow the whole fukcign^^ planet from doomsday away !
 

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i agree with this
it seems obvious to me that Goku would win against doomsday...every time...becauuuuuse Goku can PWN and i mean PWN Cell!! and cell and Doomsday have like the fricken same powers! except cell can get stronger through absorbtion...aaaaannnd Goku in Super Sayan 4 would destroy superman!! completely kill him and leave nothing left! he would kill doomsday and superman teamed up against him..no doubt. Super sayan 2 can kill doomsday (because of cell) and 3 can handel Majin Buu....4 is just too much!!
 

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I dont have the time im a full student bro look at the developement of vegeta before freezer blew up the planet, early episodes. He does it with one index finger. n i dont have a reason to lie believe what u want i dont really care and i only could be called an itachi fanboy. I remember he did though 100% sure of myself. He was with nappa terrorizing. N no lol u r a true troll to me. This is a joke. Superman has no sperm count due to his red panties. tell him to have a kid.
You're right about a lot of things you said but not having time isn't one of them it's not having a leg to stand on :) , and you're right about FRIEZA blowing up a planet but FRIEZA was as strong as a an SSJ Goku so are you now saying that a 10 year old Vegeta could beat Goku?:flaw::flaw: You're also right that this is a joke that anyone could think Goku has a chance, because all superman has to do to win is bear hug Goku and fly straight into the sun, because no matter which earth they fight on its yellow so it wouldn't even harm Superman while it would incinerate Goku. Also for everyone who brings the dragon balls into this saying "Goku has Unlimited lives" he can only be revived once a year, and after a few revivals I'm sure Superman could just throw Dende in space and let him choke. :shrug:


Goku = Universal Spirit Bomb. No matter how you twist, Superman can't destroy a universe, so getting hit by a spirit bomb as strong as one = Dead.

No, because the Spirit bomb no matter how big is made of Ki and Supermans Only weakness is Magic and Kryptonite.


Everyone who thinks Goku can win this is what i leave you:

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How could Superman possibly contend with Goku, honestly? How is this even arguable?
because supes has much better feats. hes MUCH faster than light, juggles planets, sneezed away a solar system, reignited a star, threw a star, smarter than a supercomputer etc

goku can easily destroy planets and everything on that planet including steel
superman would just fly into the planet and it would be destroyed.
 
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lol I don't know anything about how strong Superman was before I read this.

I'm actually very surprised that something could rival DBZ people, I mean the main character, Goku? :eek:
 

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Pre-Crisis superman is ALMOST =\> Goku

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This^. If you don't know pre-crisis don't argue. I give it to Superman but this is a great argument because it's close and really could go either way,

Superman wins because he can only be killed by Kryptonite. (radioactive pieces of his homeworld)

does Goku have any Kryptonite?

(if he was smart enough to get some he could win but the smartness is lacking.)
 

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Agreed. Superman= most O.P. person EVER. It's ridiculous really hoe O.P. he is. And that's why I like Marvel. there's always a give and take.
WTH

really you don't think anybody in marvel is op?! I can name 5

1.The Beyonder
2.Galactus
3.Thanos
4.The Sentry
5.Apocalypse

and much MUCH more!
 
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