Minato and Jiraiya vs Uchiha Bro's

[NotAnyones FanBoy]

i dont think so. if base sasuke could out run Amatearsu for a littlw while, so can J-man.



FTG

1. the key word is "for a littlw while". + base jiraiya is not any faster than sasuke
2. FTG wouldn't dodge tsukuyomi, he would have to use it before the genjutsu is actually used, therefore it is predicting not dodging.

 

[kekerot]

Sasuke and Itachi easily.J Man is not fast enough to dodge Amaterasu and it takes him to long to get into SM.After J Man dies,Minato is going to FTG home like the little girl he is.

Minato is not a girl your father is a girl Minato is way stronger than Uchihas sasuke fanboy :flaw:

 

[Makoto Uchiha]

Common Sense :

Minato >> EMS Sasuke.

Jiraya >> MS Itachi.

Team Jiraya Wins.

jiraya>> MS itachi u don't know what common sense is:sy:

 

[unclekrack1]

J man an minato win. Minato faster then sasuke an smarter probley stronger, Itachi admited he an kisama couldnt beat j man, they would probley need ma an pa genjustu tho.

 

[Bogard]

jiraya>> MS itachi u don't know what common sense is:sy:

He said it himself in part1 that even with Kisame, they could both die if they where to fight Jiraya.

 

[raynnil]

Useless Gossip. Itachi Admitted Jiraiya was more powerful than him once, though i personally find that hard to believe. So If we count that as a tie, that leaves Minato VS Sasuke. Now We all have heard Minato was Ultra-Super-strong or best of them all and more blah blah blah. But Then truth is we know a **** about his Abilities. What we have seen much is good, but not that good. But the again, He was Forth Hokage and had a mountain sized reputation to back him up. He could have a few or many more up on his sleeve, or not. Until we know his Full strength, this match up is pointless. I think every match up is useless anyway, cause we have seen countless time in manga that the strongest doesn't always win. There r many facts controlling the battle beside sheer power and most of the time those are what proven to be vital. SO ANY MATCH UP SUCH AS THIS IS A FAILURE UNLESS KISHI TELLS HIMSELF WHO THE WINNER IS. And itz stupidity to make such threads, arguing over it and posting in it COUNTLESS Times.

 

[Makoto Uchiha]

He said it himself in part1 that even with Kisame, they could both die if they where to fight Jiraya.

what could jiraya possibly use against itachi

 

[sasukeisgayy]

The J-Man and the Yellow Flash..... There's no ***gy eye justu could save them

 

[Bogard]

what could jiraya possibly use against itachi

Maybe this:

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(As Jiraya says, "hope they enjoy being food to Iwagama")
Susanoo or not he was completly traped here. Susanoo can't protect from underground. So he could have traped by the stomach jutsu from underground.

Itachi seemed really confident here. When Jiraya says they can't catch Naruto, Itachi says: "why not?"

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And then Jiraya says it's because he will kill them both. He doesn't fear Itachi at all, even if he is with Kisame.

And he is already aware of his sharingan technics here:

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But he managed to nullify that. And he was looking at Itachi all the time without stress.

Instead of that, when Itachi has seen they've gotten trap, he said to Kisame to get out of there:

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But he failed to notice it in time because they walls was closing really fast, too fast for them like Kisame noticed it here:

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And that's why Itachi needs to use Amaterasu, either way, he would have get caught and could have finish in Iwagamas stomach.

And after that, Itachi needs to have some rest when Jiraya had even done nothing:

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And Jiraya even has a counter to Amaterasu as you can see here:

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So as you can see, Itachi already needed to rest when Jiraya hadn't even done nothing. As he said himself, Jiraya is powerful than them.

 

[blackbird31468]

Conditions:

Itachi - alive Full health and chakra

Sasuke - Has MS, no EMS

I say:

Amaterasu - Can be dodged by SM Jiraiya and Minato, Seald in J-man's Scroll

Tsukyomi - Dodged by minato. J-man could use Ma and Pa to disrupt chakra flow.

Sword Of totsuka - very obvious to dodge, plus that would take a toll on itachi

Susano'o - Evadable, affected by ninjutsu (like windstyle), Overuse take a toll on Uchiha bro's, penetratable if hit hard enough like a

Taijutsu - Minato and J-man would rape.

Minato and J-man high difficulty.

Amaturasu - Dodged by Minato, more than likely hits Jiraiya.

Tsukuyomi - Ma and Pa would be useless, because Jiraiya would have already of taken the affects of the genjutsu before they could react to it. Tsukuyomi only last a second in the real world, which is not enough time for Ma and Pa to snap him out.

Susano'o - I don't remember any of them having wind. Also Itachi can block the wind with the shield.

Taijutsu - Itachi's speed, skill and stealth are more than enough to keep up with either Minato or Jiraiya in taijutsu. Sasuke also has great speed and the chidori sword.

This is a really close match, but I think Itachi and Sasuke would win this with high difficulty or tie.

 

[6pathofpain]

- First of all, Minato is faster than both of them even without FTG, so he has advantage in taijutsu. If he manage to put only once, one of his seals, he win and because of the fact he is faster than them, it's not impossible at all.

- Like the Raikage said, if someone is too fast the sharingan is useless. So genjutsu will be also useless because they can't follow. Minatos speed and reflexes decide this fact.

- Because Minato is faster than them and only needs one contact for the fight to be over, they will use Susanoo to protect themself obviously.

- Susanoo attacks are too slow to even have a chance to touch Minato(he uses teleportation in an instant. Nothing is faster than that). So Itachi and Sasuke will pass their time by wasting their chakras. That's where Minato has advantage. Because his attacks are not only effective, but they also didn't need too much chakra in the contrary of Susanoo. So if the fight continue that way, Minato will win because of the lack of stamina from the Uchiwa brothers(Itachi is the one who will fall first because he has the lowest stamina here)

And if they want to spend their chakra by not using Susanoo constantly, it will be an huge opportunity for Minato to take advantage with taijutsu and put his seals on one of them or even both of them. And if he manage that, the fight is almost over.

- Also when Itachi and Sasuke have nothing to touch Minato, Minato can find his way to get through Susanoo. He can either attack Susanoo from forward and where he is near it, he summons Gamabunta like he did against Kyubi(and Gamabunta is bigger than Susanoo), and with this method, he takes advantage from the confusion to blitz them and put his markings and finish the fight.

The other way is by taking his time. He can put his kunais or seals everywhere on the battlefield, and more the fight last long, more Itachi and Sasuke won't have anywhere to go because Minato could teleport himself everywhere.
It can even happen that they didn't notice where the seals are because it's not evident to see and they will be in continue stress of fighting Minato at the same time, so they can make errors of judgement. For example, if during the fight, someone/both of them don't notice a seal jutsu which is near them, Minato can take advantage of that and teleport inside the Susanoo and kill him.

Someone hasty like Sasuke for example could fail to notice it in time, and that will give an huge opportunity to Minato to teleport inside Susanoo and kill him.
Itachi is the one who is able to last longer because he is calm and intelligent when he fights. But even with his intelligent, more the fight will continue, more Minato will be at his advantage because it can possibly go to the way that there is nowhere else where Itachi could possibly go(if there are markings everywhere), so he could get kill too.
Also, in the contrary of Sasuke he lacks of stamina. So he could not maintain Susanoo for too long.

That's why i think Minato can solo this. :scorps:

You were doin good then u lost me lol

Your talkin about itachi like he's some sort of lame, itachi was a master in taijutsu, ninjutsu, an genjutsu so there's no garantee he's gonna lose to minato in taijutsu. An itachi is smart an he knows his limits, he's not gonna jus jump into suasnoo an use it freely like that. Minato an itachi alone would b a good fight. Minato's ftg will make it difficult but i wouldnt count itachi out. Minato was the 4th hokage an itachi knows his rep an skills. Minato as far as we know has never met an uchiha in battle an doesnt know the extent of there abilities, no one in the anime had even seen suasnoo until sasuke use it against the 5 kages(besides suaske an zetsu when itachi used it). And minato's lack of knowledge an itachi knowing minato could be his downfall. If minato doesnt know what the black flame is(i said black flame cause i dont know how to spell the name:shrug an he holds on to it till the end it could catch him if he's not expecting it.

Jiraiya maaaaaaaay be able to beat sasuke cause he's smarter an has more battle experience, an his sage modes pretty strong. But i dout jiraiya is fast enough to dodge the arrows so that could prove to be his downfall. An we all know hoe sasuke loooves using suasnoo an i dont think jiraiya will survive suasnoo with out sage mode so he'll have to get in it quick an hopefully sasuke lets him do it.

 

[Bogard]

Taijutsu - Itachi's speed, skill and stealth are more than enough to keep up with either Minato or Jiraiya in taijutsu. Sasuke also has great speed and the chidori sword.

Don't forget that Taijutsu is too risky for Itachi or Sasuke. If Minato touch them only once, he put his seals(like he did with Killer-bee who i think is as fast or even faster than Itachi) the fight is over and fighting in taijutsu with Minato who is faster than them is a lot more risky. They can't do that.

 

[Bogard]

Your talkin about itachi like he's some sort of lame, itachi was a master in taijutsu, ninjutsu, an genjutsu so there's no garantee he's gonna lose to minato in taijutsu.

Yes Itachi is not lame in taijutsu, but Minato isn't too. He is faster than Itachi. Using taijutsu is too risky for him. Even if he keeps up with Minato in taijutsu(what i seriously doubt), Minato only needs to touch you once to put his seals and it's over. Itachi must not try to attack with taijutsu just because of that. Just see how it gone against Bee. I think Bee is almost as good or even better in taijutsu than Itachi, but look how fast Minato did to avoid his attack and put his seals when Bee was even attacking from behind:

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At this moment he did it in an instant.
And yes Itachi is clever, but Minato too.

 

[SomeOddStudios]

You have to consider Itachi's MS is very powerful, but Against Jiraiya in Sage mode it may be a close fight, Sasuke with no MS or EMS would not be much of a challenge to Minato or to Jiraiya, So I would Say that unless Itachi was able to disable one or both then Team Minato would win...

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[Saiyan Jutsu]

Itachi and Sasuke take this but barely, they analyze everything in battle and find counter attacks. They wouldn't go blind using ms for this one battle and itd be difficult for the fourth and j man to stay on the move and have to fight without looking into their eyes, something kakashi couldn't do. It would be a good fight though

 

[Fearmonger]

- First of all, Minato is faster than both of them even without FTG, so he has advantage in taijutsu. If he manage to put only once, one of his seals, he win and because of the fact he is faster than them, it's not impossible at all.

- Like the Raikage said, if someone is too fast the sharingan is useless. So genjutsu will be also useless because they can't follow. Minatos speed and reflexes decide this fact.

- Because Minato is faster than them and only needs one contact for the fight to be over, they will use Susanoo to protect themself obviously.

- Susanoo attacks are too slow to even have a chance to touch Minato(he uses teleportation in an instant. Nothing is faster than that). So Itachi and Sasuke will pass their time by wasting their chakras. That's where Minato has advantage. Because his attacks are not only effective, but they also didn't need too much chakra in the contrary of Susanoo. So if the fight continue that way, Minato will win because of the lack of stamina from the Uchiwa brothers(Itachi is the one who will fall first because he has the lowest stamina here)

And if they want to spend their chakra by not using Susanoo constantly, it will be an huge opportunity for Minato to take advantage with taijutsu and put his seals on one of them or even both of them. And if he manage that, the fight is almost over.

- Also when Itachi and Sasuke have nothing to touch Minato, Minato can find his way to get through Susanoo. He can either attack Susanoo from forward and where he is near it, he summons Gamabunta like he did against Kyubi(and Gamabunta is bigger than Susanoo), and with this method, he takes advantage from the confusion to blitz them and put his markings and finish the fight.

The other way is by taking his time. He can put his kunais or seals everywhere on the battlefield, and more the fight last long, more Itachi and Sasuke won't have anywhere to go because Minato could teleport himself everywhere.
It can even happen that they didn't notice where the seals are because it's not evident to see and they will be in continue stress of fighting Minato at the same time, so they can make errors of judgement. For example, if during the fight, someone/both of them don't notice a seal jutsu which is near them, Minato can take advantage of that and teleport inside the Susanoo and kill him.

Someone hasty like Sasuke for example could fail to notice it in time, and that will give an huge opportunity to Minato to teleport inside Susanoo and kill him.
Itachi is the one who is able to last longer because he is calm and intelligent when he fights. But even with his intelligent, more the fight will continue, more Minato will be at his advantage because it can possibly go to the way that there is nowhere else where Itachi could possibly go(if there are markings everywhere), so he could get kill too.
Also, in the contrary of Sasuke he lacks of stamina. So he could not maintain Susanoo for too long.

That's why i think Minato can solo this. :scorps:

I see. But what im trying to say is what if Minato doesnt get the chance to set tags? He wont have any way to evade susanoo arrow and he'll die. Or even if what you say happens Sasuke could just destroy the place in his rage and frustration forcing Minato to have to replant these tags/seals and Sasuke's not gonna let that happen

 

[blackbird31468]

Don't forget that Taijutsu is too risky for Itachi or Sasuke. If Minato touch them only once, he put his seals(like he did with Killer-bee who i think is as fast or even faster than Itachi) the fight is over and fighting in taijutsu with Minato who is faster than them is a lot more risky. They can't do that.

Which is why, even though both could more than likely hold their own against them in taijutsu, it would definitely be too risky to do so unless they had to.

 

[Bogard]

I see. But what im trying to say is what if Minato doesnt get the chance to set tags? He wont have any way to evade susanoo arrow and he'll die. Or even if what you say happens Sasuke could just destroy the place in his rage and frustration forcing Minato to have to replant these tags/seals and Sasuke's not gonna let that happen

Even if he doesn't have time to set up his tags, with his reflexes superior than even from the Raikage, he will be able to dodge at the last moment like he did here:

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Raikage was almost touching his nose, but he was able to pass a kunai over him, and then he teleports 2times even before the Raikage had ended his run.
Like here too:

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"He must almost caught by Tobis chain here but in an instant he managed to teleport himself either way".

Like here too:

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Again at the last moment when Tobi almost touched him, he teleports himself.

No one has better reflexes than Minato.
Either way Minato is the best in the last moment in timings attacks. :scorps:

 

[6pathofpain]

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(As Jiraya says, "hope they enjoy being food to Iwagama")
Susanoo or not he was completly traped here. Susanoo can't protect from underground. So he could have traped by the stomach jutsu from underground.

Itachi seemed really confident here. When Jiraya says they can't catch Naruto, Itachi says: "why not?"

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And then Jiraya says it's because he will kill them both. He doesn't fear Itachi at all, even if he is with Kisame.

And he is already aware of his sharingan technics here:

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But he managed to nullify that. And he was looking at Itachi all the time without stress.

Instead of that, when Itachi has seen they've gotten trap, he said to Kisame to get out of there:

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But he failed to notice it in time because they walls was closing really fast, too fast for them like Kisame noticed it here:

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And that's why Itachi needs to use Amaterasu, either way, he would have get caught and could have finish in Iwagamas stomach.

And after that, Itachi needs to have some rest when Jiraya had even done nothing:

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And Jiraya even has a counter to Amaterasu as you can see here:

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So as you can see, Itachi already needed to rest when Jiraya hadn't even done nothing. As he said himself, Jiraya is powerful than them.

1. Itachi purposly never killed any1 fromw the leaf village. It was even said in war he only killed when he had to.
2. Yea jiraya was lookin in his eyes but if itachi doesnt actually do a genjutsu(which he didnt use in those pages, or even try to use) it doesnt matter :sy:
3.Of course jiraya was confident, he was confident. but he was also confident he could beat pain...look what happened:flaw:
4. That "counter" takes way to long an the black flame will have already got him...

come with better facts please :shrug:

 

[6pathofpain]

Yes Itachi is not lame in taijutsu, but Minato isn't too. He is faster than Itachi. Using taijutsu is too risky for him. Even if he keeps up with Minato in taijutsu(what i seriously doubt), Minato only needs to touch you once to put his seals and it's over. Itachi must not try to attack with taijutsu just because of that. Just see how it gone against Bee. I think Bee is almost as good or even better in taijutsu than Itachi, but look how fast Minato did to avoid his attack and put his seals when Bee was even attacking from behind:

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At this moment he did it in an instant.
And yes Itachi is clever, but Minato too.

very true, but since itachi knows about minato he'll know not to use taijutsu an if he has no choice he'll be looking for the seal. Plus with the sharingun he'll have the upper hand an it'll b easier for him to counter. But dont get me wrong i know minato's not a lame, he's deffinitly in the top 5 if u ask me or very close to it. but to say he'd hands down beat itachi or espeacially itachi an sasuke? I think thast a bit much. Although he might have a better chance against both cause itachi would be to worried about sasuke