*signs* jiraiya can't summon ma and pa at will... He was trying to summon them for minutes against pain so plz stfu someone who's hands are tied is probably vulnerable in taijutsu, ninjutsu and genjutsu... Did you even think before posting?? Well i'm outta here so bother replying
Dude...go BACK AND REREAD...He was NOT trying to summon ma and pa for minutes...you obviously don't know WTH you're reading...save yourself further embaressment by not posting anymore...:sy:
Is that all you Uchiha fan got is Amaterasu and Susanoo....
Ever seen a Susanoo get burned by Amaterasu??? Minato can make that happen....S/T Amaterasu right into the other.....
You guys obviously take Minato and J-man for fools....they both are battlefield tacticians...come on....really???:scorps::sy:
Definitely minato+jiraiya>itachi+sasuke.
Their fuuinjutsu are better,speed is superhuman,and they have larger amount of chakra,minato analyses better than itachi
Tempers are flaring here. Jiraiya doesn't need SM, they both need to avoid eye contact, Minato can teleport both himself and Jiraiya to avoid Amaterasu( he can teleport himself and things far from himself like he teleportd Kurama) and Jiraiya can use Swamp of the Underworld which will turn their own Susanoo against them because its weight will make them sink faster just like it weighed Itachi down and let him get stabbed in this week's chapter.
They were looking for Naruto at the time, BUT they didn't know that he was under Jiraiya's protection. When they say Jiraiya, Kisame said that they could take him. Itachi held him from attacking; stating that they BOTH could only tie with him together....If you want I'll go show you the manga page...:scorps:
that manga page is mistranslated, its been confirmed by kirin rei.
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The above translation is way off.
Kisame - You could somehow win, but I couldn't stand up to such an opponent for more than a couple of minutes... It's on a completely different level. Itachi - Ah... Either (we) both (he says both/two, meaning him and Kisame) would die, or it would be a draw... The result wouldn't change even if we increased our numbers. Kisame - It was good that we found him at the ramen shop... And he has one of the Legendary Sannin as a lucky charm. That guy (Jiraiya) might be a fair match for the strongest Uchiha from Konoha and the Mist's strongest swordsman. Itachi - Hmm, even so... It's said that every strong man has a weakness...
Kisame and Itachi were talking about the Kyuubi, not Jiraiya. Kisame brings the topic of Jiraiya up later on in the conversation and Itachi acknowledges that he's strong, but he says that he has a weakness. *girls girls girls*
It seems as if Kisame was babbling on about taking the Kyuubi on, that he couldn't do it more than a couple of minutes but Itachi would have a chance. Itachi states that they both wouldn't stand a chance of winning, even if they increased their numbers. Kisame states that it was lucky to find Naruto in the ramen shop but Jiraiya would pose a problem and Itachi just says; girls girls girls.
Interesting topic but it's going to only start a flame war.I already see people overestimating characters they like and underestimating the opponents their favorite character will be facing.
that manga page is mistranslated, its been confirmed by kirin rei.
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The above translation is way off.
Kisame - You could somehow win, but I couldn't stand up to such an opponent for more than a couple of minutes... It's on a completely different level. Itachi - Ah... Either (we) both (he says both/two, meaning him and Kisame) would die, or it would be a draw... The result wouldn't change even if we increased our numbers. Kisame - It was good that we found him at the ramen shop... And he has one of the Legendary Sannin as a lucky charm. That guy (Jiraiya) might be a fair match for the strongest Uchiha from Konoha and the Mist's strongest swordsman. Itachi - Hmm, even so... It's said that every strong man has a weakness...
Kisame and Itachi were talking about the Kyuubi, not Jiraiya. Kisame brings the topic of Jiraiya up later on in the conversation and Itachi acknowledges that he's strong, but he says that he has a weakness. *girls girls girls*
It seems as if Kisame was babbling on about taking the Kyuubi on, that he couldn't do it more than a couple of minutes but Itachi would have a chance. Itachi states that they both wouldn't stand a chance of winning, even if they increased their numbers. Kisame states that it was lucky to find Naruto in the ramen shop but Jiraiya would pose a problem and Itachi just says; girls girls girls.
WHAT THE FUK does that link have to do with Minato being caught by genjutsu??? That's Oro you numnut!!! Oro is NO WHERE NEAR Minato's level....you're a fail for even posting this BS
YOU SAID Sasuke wasn't running away...don't try to flip the script guy....you're such a fail you don't even remember what the hell you posted...OMFG....Do yourself a favor....go read a databook...ANY DATABOOK...and it'll tell you Jiraiya was faster than Sasuke....so stfu and take your lame excuse of postings with you....
Who said anything about minato getting caught in a genjutsu?? Your ability to interprete information is quite low my friend... You won't get anywhere in life if you continue like this. Plz go back and read my post before making stupid comments... All i said was "if itachi can pawn oro with that then he can do the same to any summon"
i never said sasuke wasn't running either... Where did you get that from?? sasuke isn't fast enough to outrun amaterasu in fact it took raikage(the fastest ninja) in version 2 raiton armour to escape it... Sasuke managed to escape it because itachi was in a near blind state.
Sasuke is faster than base jiraiya... Even if fan boys like you wouldn't accept it. He was able to keep up with raikage's version one raiton armour and managed to escape bee's junchuruki attack... Which Bee said only his brother could escape...
Take your own advice, stop posting bs and learn to read... Maybe you will realize how stupid you sounded this time.
Who says anything about minato getting caught in a genjutsu?? Your ability to interprete informations is quite low my friend... You won't get anywhere in life if you continue like this. Plz go back and read my post before making stupid comments... All i said was "if itachi can pawn oro with that then he can do the same to any summon"
i never said sasuke wasn't running either... Where did you get that from?? sasuke isn't fast enough to outrun amaterasu in fact it took raikage(fastest ninja) version 2 raiton armour to escape it... Sasuke managed to escape it because itachi was blind.
Sasuke is faster than base jiraiya... Even if a fan boy like you wouldn't accept it.
Take your own advice, stop posting bs and learn to read... Maybe you will realize how stupid you sounded this time
well... i can give him that but i don't know why he's trying so hard to force words in my mouth... And he's too rude for my liking even when i said the uchiha brothers would lose... Seriously, i don't even know why i'm talking to him... Well i'm done with this thread
its has to be that jiraya and minato would defeat the Uchiha bro's med difficulty; itachi would stand a good fight but would loose due to sauske incompetence. for example look at the bro's with kabuto itachi would be dead if he wernt a edo.
Tsukyomi will not be affective in this battle as minato jiraya know of sharingan abilities i believe that jiraya will be the target for the uchicha bro's leavin minato to instant travel in and out of the battle field as he has marked jiraya. both have high sensing abililties wich dont rely on sight.
jiraya will evade amatersu by himself mayb once or twice before minato has to save him with instant travel but by then minato and jiraya plan would be in place like maybe a binding jutsus so itchahi cant use his shargingan. all jus loads of giant rasengan like naruto would do
The problem with the other team is that they have nothing to deffend against Genjutsu, wich shall be their demisse... Being caught in a genjutsu for even one second is enough for the Uchiha Bros to either Seal them with Tostsuka sword or amateratsu them to death...
Even if they avoid eye contact (quite impossible) Itachi can cast Genjutsu by other means too (pointing at them etc)...
I see Minato and Jiraiya winning this more times than not. Logical thinking shows that no one is going to be able to catch Minato in a genjutsu, I mean he's too fast, and you can't catch what you can't see, Tsukiyomi and his other genjutsu are not instant, they take prep time, and that second Itachi or Sasuke closes there eyes to use MS, Minato would have made his move. I just see Itachi and Sasuke being smart about this and conserving their piss poor stamina, no way they are going to start off with the big guns (maybe Sasuke). And remember, all they have to do is keep there distance to stay out of range of the genjutsu.
Jiraiya has the toughest luck here, but he's good at evasion, hence the Pein battle, so i dont really know about him.
I won't post a full argument because it seems everyone on here is pretty biased, Uchiha fans apparently think genjutsu is the answer to every battle, so there is no point.
it to late on this thread just upseted me really minato FTG base rasengan cant kill no one periode and a sealing jutsu that would kill them would kill minato to and susanoo rib cage stop anything minato got as for those frogs amaterasu and even if sasuke not ems sharingan can see chakra like he did see deidara underground mines he probably will catch him and genjutsu to make him think he made another ftg when he didnt and j-man normal mode will get toasted and stop saying itachi would have lost to him that was in part 1 in to my noleg he had KA right so that was a false statement he can use KA and this fight on minato and what can SM j-man do? a big rasengan susanoo people who said minato and j-man are fanboys in stop bringing up the past sasuke and itachi mid diffuclty j-man or minato not getting caught in one type of genjutsu in just dumb and sasuke bird would give them trouble to casue