Why is tobi not obito..

[destined 2 win]

this guy is nuts . the title of thread suggest tobi isn't obito but his points says tobi is definately obito. what a duschew:scorps:

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Not even close
He manipulated the 4th Mizukage Yagura before Obito was born.
About Izuna, he defends Madara constantly saying he didn't steal his brothers eyes and izuna gave them to him. He easily could have been revived by Madara's rinnegan

Yh but obito is older than kisame and Yagura looks younger then kisame (LOOKS)
Hmm yes Izuna im thinking about that theory now

 

[devilking123]

Obito sounds like tobi bull ****ing shit the second hokages name is tobirama dib **** this whole thread is a load of bullshit dont waste time in reading it

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

this guy is nuts . the title of thread suggest tobi isn't obito but his points says tobi is definately obito. what a duschew:scorps:

Hehehe And waitt I never said that tobi is obito I said it is not impossible which is the point of my thread

 

[PositiveEmotions]

Yh that's what I said inmy theory in the original post to this thread, I said zetsu gave the rinnegan to nagato because he was an uzumaki which means he would have sage body and sage eyes now.

hmmm no because madara stated that he awakened the rinnigan before he died so in theory neztu might of taken the eyes from madara and given it to nagato also some how all the memories from madara were transfered to obitos brain ( i could be wrong here) either that or zetzu knew madara and madara told zetzu that he needed an uchiha to complete his mission for him so zetzu might of told everything to obito and threaten to kill rinn or something

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Obito sounds like tobi bull ****ing shit the second hokages name is tobirama dib **** this whole thread is a load of bullshit dont waste time in reading it

Yes that bit is not the real links that I was making as I said "these are the basic links" "small irrelevant but ture links" So read the whole thread

 

[evilmayo]

The manga is a fact? Thats the weakest excuse...... The outcome of the manga and anime are always the same..... The orbito theories stop in the anime.... You have the proof there... If the anime shows orbito in the dead world.... Then hes not coming back... If you cant take that then you will never figure out who tobi is..... Whats with you guys trying to make orbito into tobi... It doesn't even add up... you want him to be orbito so bad that your blinding yourself by concidence .... Anime always fills in the gaps for the manga... Obito in dead world in anime equals one dead Orbito

 

[Bigfoot34501]

Yhh they probably will soon and it will be lost with all the other who is tobi threads *sigh*

Alright I said I'd make a few points to support you if this thread didn't close, so here they are:

1. Chapter 507 and 510

In Chapter 510 we got the famous image of Konan getting stabbed in the back by Tobi and showing us that Tobi did in fact have two Sharigans:

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But what everyone seems to always forget is the fact that in three chapters before 510 in chapter 507, it was confirmed that before the Uchiha massacre, Tobi only had his right eye:

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We only see one eye in the panel and then Kisame confirms that Tobi only has one eye by stating "That eye, that shines in the dark." You could say that Tobi had one eye closed, but that would be a ridiculous thing to do if you were introducing yourself to someone for the first time, and it would be a major troll move on Kishi's part. And you could also say that the person in this panel isn't Tobi, but we know that's not true because Kisame confirmed this person was Tobi when he met him again in chapter 404:

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2. Rin's disappearance

After Kakashi Gaiden, we never see Rin again. But since we never saw Rin again, it made me wonder. In chapter 503, we get a panel of Kurunei, Asuma, Guy, and Kakashi. But it's only one year after Obito's death and Rin's already disappeared:

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That brings up the question, did Obito (or whoever was using his body) do what Sasuke couldn't do at the age of 13 and kill his best friend to unlock MS? It would make sense if Tobi had MS, considering the Uchiha panel says you need it to control the Kyuubi:

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3. Shisui

So far all MS users have had a brother that also unlocked MS so that one of them had the ability to unlock EMS. There are six MS users in Naruto, but right now Shisui and Obito aren't related. The two things that make me wonder about this is:

-Mei said that she couldn't help but think the technique Tobi used on the Fourth Mizukage and the technique Danzo used on Mifune are similar:

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-So Tobi had the same tech as Danzo, but he still wanted Shisui's eye for some reason:

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This makes me believe that Shisui and Obito were brothers, and that whoever is using Obito's body wanted to get EMS from Shisui's right eye

A lot of it's speculation, but the hints are there. This isn't the entire thing though, it's just a few points. So do whatever you want with all of this, just don't forget to cite me if you use it

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

hmmm no because madara stated that he awakened the rinnigan before he died so in theory neztu might of taken the eyes from madara and given it to nagato also some how all the memories from madara were transfered to obitos brain ( i could be wrong here) either that or zetzu knew madara and madara told zetzu that he needed an uchiha to complete his mission for him so zetzu might of told everything to obito and threaten to kill rinn or something

So you agree with me to an extent

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

The manga is a fact? Thats the weakest excuse...... The outcome of the manga and anime are always the same..... The orbito theories stop in the anime.... You have the proof there... If the anime shows orbito in the dead world.... Then hes not coming back... If you cant take that then you will never figure out who tobi is..... Whats with you guys trying to make orbito into tobi... It doesn't even add up... you want him to be orbito so bad that your blinding yourself by concidence .... Anime always fills in the gaps for the manga... Tobi in dead world in anime equals one dead tobi

Obito was not in the dead world we only saw his dad there, he was thinking of obito in his mind U_U

 

[Genduko]

The manga is a fact? Thats the weakest excuse...... The outcome of the manga and anime are always the same..... The orbito theories stop in the anime.... You have the proof there... If the anime shows orbito in the dead world.... Then hes not coming back... If you cant take that then you will never figure out who tobi is..... Whats with you guys trying to make orbito into tobi... It doesn't even add up... you want him to be orbito so bad that your blinding yourself by concidence .... Anime always fills in the gaps for the manga... Tobi in dead world in anime equals one dead tobi

soo going by that in the anime second hokage can yous the gen jutsu bringer of darkness even tho it was the 1st hokage that did the bringer of darkness genjutsu in the manga ,

i'm sorry i'm not sure if your knew or anything but here on the base we like to back up our claims with the manga not the anime.

While the anime trys its hardest to stay true to the manga it doesn't always stay true.

and i'm not saying obito is tobi i'm just saying he has some valid points.

 

[warawar]

tobi and madara was friend but tobi kill madara from his back
so he is afreid from hem and he didnt want kabuto to bring him to life
becous he will kill tobi when he see him

 

[NarutoKage2]

To your 1st point: madara knows the mask man true but not his name tobi so tobi was a name created by tobi.

2nd point: He could of made zetsu before he obtained the rinnegan and then at the time of his death gave it to zetsu

3rd: yes but tobi said he gave nagato the rinnegan so the zetsu that gave it to nagato is what infused with tobi which is why he says this. you see how it works out now. I highly doubt madara lived for that long

Were you able to comprehend what i wrote? Read it again, slowly and think over it.

1st point. Madara could only know the masked man while he was alive. If the time of Madara's death is before Obito's birth than masked man can't be Obito, get it?

2nd point:Than how does Madara know Nagato and why did he expect him to revive him? Nagato had been given the rinnegan while Madara was alive, that's why zetsu did'nt give it.

3rd point: Madara knows Nagato, he knows he had the rinnegan. That timeline was very short, i was only explaining it in detail.

Lemme dumb it down for you:


Nagato's rinnegan came from Madara.

Madara knows Nagato, and he knows he had his rinnegan

If zetsu gave it real madara would'nt know these^^ 2 things

Madara knows the masked man,call him what you want.

Madara died shortly after awakening the rinnegan

So masked man has to have been around when Nagato first got his rinnegan.



When Nagato first got his rinnegan Obito was'nt born.

 

[Necron]

Not this Obito nonsense again.

not this guy again... I really want to see what all of you will say if it is revealed he actually is obito... It will be a day full of awkwardness for you, Obito-theory Bashers

 

[The Hidden Shinobi]

Alright I said I'd make a few points to support you if this thread didn't close, so here they are:

1. Chapter 507 and 510

In Chapter 510 we got the famous image of Konan getting stabbed in the back by Tobi and showing us that Tobi did in fact have two Sharigans:

Spoiler

You must be registered for see links

But what everyone seems to always forget is the fact that in three chapters before 510 in chapter 507, it was confirmed that before the Uchiha massacre, Tobi only had his right eye:

Spoiler

You must be registered for see links

We only see one eye in the panel and then Kisame confirms that Tobi only has one eye by stating "That eye, that shines in the dark." You could say that Tobi had one eye closed, but that would be a ridiculous thing to do if you were introducing yourself to someone for the first time, and it would be a major troll move on Kishi's part. And you could also say that the person in this panel isn't Tobi, but we know that's not true because Kisame confirmed this person was Tobi when he met him again in chapter 404:

Spoiler

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2. Rin's disappearance

After Kakashi Gaiden, we never see Rin again. But since we never saw Rin again, it made me wonder. In chapter 503, we get a panel of Kurunei, Asuma, Guy, and Kakashi. But it's only one year after Obito's death and Rin's already disappeared:

Spoiler

You must be registered for see links

That brings up the question, did Obito (or whoever was using his body) do what Sasuke couldn't do at the age of 13 and kill his best friend to unlock MS? It would make sense if Tobi had MS, considering the Uchiha panel says you need it to control the Kyuubi:

Spoiler

You must be registered for see links

3. Shisui

So far all MS users have had a brother that also unlocked MS so that one of them had the ability to unlock EMS. There are six MS users in Naruto, but right now Shisui and Obito aren't related. The two things that make me wonder about this is:

-Mei said that she couldn't help but think the technique Tobi used on the Fourth Mizukage and the technique Danzo used on Mifune are similar:

Spoiler

You must be registered for see links

-So Tobi had the same tech as Danzo, but he still wanted Shisui's eye for some reason:

Spoiler

You must be registered for see links

This makes me believe that Shisui and Obito were brothers, and that whoever is using Obito's body wanted to get EMS from Shisui's right eye

A lot of it's speculation, but the hints are there. This isn't the entire thing though, it's just a few points. So do whatever you want with all of this, just don't forget to cite me if you use it

I have never noticed any of these links before your a really good observer and I believe your theory that obito and shisui being brothers he was nick named "Shisui of the Body Flicker" so it make so much sense.

 

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[The Hidden Shinobi]

Were you able to comprehend what i wrote? Read it again, slowly and think over it.

1st point. Madara could only know the masked man while he was alive. If the time of Madara's death is before Obito's birth than masked man can't be Obito, get it?

2nd point:Than how does Madara know Nagato and why did he expect him to revive him? Nagato had been given the rinnegan while Madara was alive, that's why zetsu did'nt give it.

3rd point: Madara knows Nagato, he knows he had the rinnegan. That timeline was very short, i was only explaining it in detail.

Lemme dumb it down for you:


Nagato's rinnegan came from Madara.

Madara knows Nagato, and he knows he had his rinnegan

If zetsu gave it real madara would'nt know these^^ 2 things

Madara knows the masked man,call him what you want.

Madara died shortly after awakening the rinnegan

So masked man has to have been around when Nagato first got his rinnegan.



When Nagato first got his rinnegan Obito was'nt born.

Madara doesn't know the mask man because he said "this is his doing" by his he means the zetsu he made and mission was to revive him.

And madara gave his rinnegan to zetsu who gave it to nagato before obito was born and after years of looking for an uchiha body but unable to get one he found obito. As my theory states

But madara knowing nagato's name is still a mystery maybe he did survive until nagato gave it to him and made a zetsu then

 

[dk13]

Oh i love this thread !!!!

+rep

And it has to be obito ! Kishi did a young Kakashi part and one episode after that "Tobi" appeard. I´m sorry just a coincidence?
There are several hints and its always a relation between charakters.
The Son of the Sage 1st he could just rip madaras head of, so its impossible for him to be tobi.
The other Uchihas which were mentioned, have no relation to any of the charakters.
So just because of the relationships between the charakters it will be obito.

thanks for your attention !

 

[PositiveEmotions]

So you agree with me to an extent

yea bc i my self made a theory on obito and the thing is ppl forget that the manga stated shishui, kagami, and izuna all dead but the manga never confirmed obito dead they only showed him get crushed but its not enough proof of him being dead bc with kishi anything is possible in the naruto manga​

 

[evilmayo]

Fail thread... This treads attracting more idiots than flies on shit