Why is tobi not obito..

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hey i agree tobi is obito but tobi 1 had 2 b the real madara cause obito wasnt born yet but definitely agree the zestu found obito and brought him 2 a dying madara who had zestu fuse wit obito 2 keep him alive which then he became tobi and then madara told tobi his plans and tobi acted them out and thats y madara knows tobi
 

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Very true but I have more links to say he is obito then you saying he is Izuna. And actually I know this because Itachi and tobi told me but yes they both lie. But hey I like your theory madara before his death revived Izuna very possible.

I would argue that there are more links for Izuna than Obito but yeah, only if you want me to.:p
 

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hey i agree tobi is obito but tobi 1 had 2 b the real madara cause obito wasnt born yet but definitely agree the zestu found obito and brought him 2 a dying madara who had zestu fuse wit obito 2 keep him alive which then he became tobi and then madara told tobi his plans and tobi acted them out and thats y madara knows tobi

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying he IS obito i'm saying there's a possibility he is. Also what people need to remember is obito is older than ITACHI AND KISAME because he is the same age as kakashi remember this people !!!!
 

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That black haired kid some people think he (or her :/) was an uchiha

Owe what a oversight by me but i dont think we will ever see those 2 to other ninja , just like we wont see anymore character development on the second Hokage
 
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How you explain this???


Tobis left arm is liquid too??
 

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I would argue that there are more links for Izuna than Obito but yeah, only if you want me to.:p

Lol make a thread if you have many links why but I think people are getting fed with tobi posts right now
 

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In the anime version pain destroys the village, kakashi dies and gets to talk with his dad. After naruto influences nagato ... Nagato revives kakashi and the villagers... As kakashi is being revived he waves goodbye to his dad.... Then he waves goodbye to Rin.... And then he gives a thumbs up to kid Orbito.... Now tell me, how is tobi orbito if orbito's soul is in the dead world? And dont give me that manga is more accurate than the anime crap... Cause kishi writes both..........orbito is Dead

the anime gets things wrong all the time kishi doesn't write the anime he overseas it on some level but he just does the manga the company viz media or something does the animations and voice acting the actual anime .

sorry but manga is fact
 

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How you explain this???


Tobis left arm is liquid too??

:T_T: one actual valid point against my theory, finally some read my post and didn't say something I have explained.

Anyway maybe zetsu took over most of his real body too
 

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Well Im sure he was taller, and madara dna via zetsu you have to take my theory into consideration aswell as my points. Itachi and kisame are about the same age how old was kisame when Yagura was being controlled.. So it wasn't a few months it was years.

My theory says that madara died and created a zetsu with his dna in it, so zetsu needed an uchiha body and he couldn't fight..

Yes I do but as far as the characters we have seen obito is a good candidate

Actually Kisame has a good ten years on Itachi so your theory fails there.
 

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the anime gets things wrong all the time kishi doesn't write the anime he overseas it on some level but he just does the manga the company viz media or something does the animations and voice acting the actual anime .

sorry but manga is fact

True dat !
 

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u have some good points but obito never had rinnigan dude obito does not have the cells of the first hokage if anything zetzu might of giving obito some of his cells or madara himself
 

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u have some good points but obito never had rinnigan dude obito does not have the cells of the first hokage if anything zetzu might of giving obito some of his cells or madara himself

Yh that's what I said inmy theory in the original post to this thread, I said zetsu gave the rinnegan to nagato because he was an uzumaki which means he would have sage body and sage eyes now.
 

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I was agreeing with everything you said apart from "and before Obito was born the masked man had already met the real Madara and he also had to give Nagato the rinnegan, so it can't be him." well not disagree this is complete correct but as my theory says madara created zetsu plant like clone and gave him the rinnegan to give to nagato to revive him. And for obito.. my theory

"Here's my theory obito's near death experience enabled him to unlock his abilty to become intangible and pass through solid objects and bearly makes it out alive from the underground cave with the right side of his body half crushed. Right after this he encountered Zetsu who meets this young boy with special eye powers and saves him. I belive Zetsu is some sort of creation by madara “The way i see it is that , when madara was dying he activated the rinnengan, and let zetsu take the rinnengan from him, along with the harashima cells, and also some of madara's own DNA.He then let zetsu implant all of these things into a piece of zetsu body like a big enough chunk to make a body , hence developing a second madara. That had all his memories(or possibly he could of extracted his entire brain?) and shit.”

And later infused this body with obito who he found because he needed the body of an uchiha and this was he’s perfect chance because the uchiha’s were all still alive and he didn’t want to engage into combat."

One problem: Madara knows the masked man. Not zetsu, but Tobi. How is Tobi=Obito possible if Madara died shortly after awakening the rinnegan? The time of Madara's death was sometime after the birth of Nagato, this is because Madara also knows Nagato by name. So no, a zetsu did'nt give Nagato the rinnegan, real Madara did, he said he was expecting to be revived by rinne tensei by Nagato so basically these 3 points invalidate you:

1. The manga has shown that Madara knows the masked man Tobi

2. Madara said he died shortly after awakening the rinnegan

3. Madara knows Nagato by name as well, and this was the same Pain/Nagato of Akatsuki because Madara thought he had been revived via his Rinne Tensei, which only the rinnegan can use. So Madara must have died after meeting Nagato. But Nagato was shown as a 6 year old kid with the rinnegan, and he never remembered Madara in his flashback. So by that time(when Nagato was a kid) Madara had already given him the rinnegan(kid Nagato was shown with the rinnegan), and therefore he died before then(Madara's death=shortly after awakening the rinnegan). But while he was still alive he met Tobi(because he knows him as well), this had to have been before that time(when Nagato was shown as a kid with the rinnegan) as well and before that time Obito was'nt born as Oro was on Jiraiya's team, and the sannin had only just got their title it was years before .

So Tobi cannot be Obito by logic.
 

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So you're inclining Obito's Body is being used then.

Yes his body and sharingan being used by a zetsu, which created by madara with his and the 1st dna both in. And with his main goal being to revive madara but instead because still having some of obito's memories came up with the moons eye plan to create peace.. something along those lines..
 

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Not even close
He manipulated the 4th Mizukage Yagura before Obito was born.
About Izuna, he defends Madara constantly saying he didn't steal his brothers eyes and izuna gave them to him. He easily could have been revived by Madara's rinnegan
 

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One problem: Madara knows the masked man. Not zetsu, but Tobi. How is Tobi=Obito possible if Madara died shortly after awakening the rinnegan? The time of Madara's death was sometime after the birth of Nagato, this is because Madara also knows Nagato by name. So no, a zetsu did'nt give Nagato the rinnegan, real Madara did, he said he was expecting to be revived by rinne tensei by Nagato so basically these 3 points invalidate you:

1. The manga has shown that Madara knows the masked man Tobi

2. Madara said he died shortly after awakening the rinnegan

3. Madara knows Nagato by name as well, and this was the same Pain/Nagato of Akatsuki because Madara thought he had been revived via his Rinne Tensei, which only the rinnegan can use. So Madara must have died after meeting Nagato. But Nagato was shown as a 6 year old kid with the rinnegan, and he never remembered Madara in his flashback. So by that time(when Nagato was a kid) Madara had already given him the rinnegan(kid Nagato was shown with the rinnegan), and therefore he died before then(Madara's death=shortly after awakening the rinnegan). But while he was still alive he met Tobi(because he knows him as well), this had to have been before that time(when Nagato was shown as a kid with the rinnegan) as well and before that time Obito was'nt born as Oro was on Jiraiya's team, and the sannin had only just got their title it was years before .

So Tobi cannot be Obito by logic.

To your 1st point: madara knows the mask man true but not his name tobi so tobi was a name created by tobi.

2nd point: He could of made zetsu before he obtained the rinnegan and then at the time of his death gave it to zetsu

3rd: yes but tobi said he gave nagato the rinnegan so the zetsu that gave it to nagato is what infused with tobi which is why he says this. you see how it works out now. I highly doubt madara lived for that long
 
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