Kakashi & Gaara Vs Sasuke EMS

[MorphyRulez]

It would be interesting if you read what Gaara is saying there lol
''External attacks won't work on him'',''I'll use the sand under his feet'' fail

Yes and he did but for what? To separate them. When he pulled madara, susanoo will come with him like part of body. He uses His sand coming from away which Oonoki used a jutsu for pull Madara. And he used sand under madara's feet for keep Susanoo away. So They are separated.

 

[Bogard]

To deal with Kakashi. Sasuke has sussano arrows. Kakashi only warp 1 arrow

Wrong. It was 2. Look it well and you will see 2arrows:

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Kakashi doesnt have the stamina or chakra to warp all of them away simply because he's not an Uchiha.

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Yeah that's what we should call a side effect of his jutsu like Sasuke also had here:

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(You can see him sweating)
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(he seems to have difficulties to breath and stay up)
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(here it seems like his life is even in danger)

I can show you a lot of scenes in that fight where Sasuke was in difficulty but that bring nothing. There were also scenes where he had difficulties to stay up and his mouth was bleeding because he had difficulties to maintain Susanoo for too long and launch his arrows.

But all that doesn't mean that even if they have side effects of their jutsus, they can't still fight. Proof is that after that Kakashi noticed the side effect of the jutsu, he was able to continue fighting with ease(he gave a blow to Sasuke that made him go way to the bridge:

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He also managed to escape quickly to a clone that manage to take him from behind, jumped and catch Naruto with ease:

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).

So even if kamui has a side effect on him, it doesn't mean he can't do that again and again. You are always saying that, if Sasuke throws 3arrows it will be over for Kakashi, but what you have forgotten is that even in the fight against Danzo, he only manage to throw it 3/4 times(forgotten) and even during that, he had side effects of his jutsus.

Kakashi is not the only one who will get tired after that if we consider that the fight would have occured at that time.

I say it because time has past since that. Now it seems Sasuke control Susanoo more easier than before, and Kakashi can fight during 2days against 7swordsmen+haku+2guy with KG+5Jinchurikis along with Guy. So maybe their stamina are far more impressive as they were at that time.

To deal with Garra. Garra only pulled Madara out of sussano because onnoki made Garra's sand lighter. Theres no way in heck Garra's sand shields are gonna block sussano arrows. Garra never blocked amaterasu, it was the enton that blocked garra's sand.

Yeah the fact that Onnoki made Gaara's sans lighter made it more easier for Gaara to catch Madara, but that doesn't mean that even without it, he couldn't. It's not Onnoki who helps Gaara to control sand. There was sand near Madara. Even if Onnoki wasn't there he could have control it. So nothing proves he couldn't have pull out Madara with the same way.

Also, yes onnoki did what you think but now it's Gaara's new ability. So we should consider that his sand is now lighter as before because the current Gaaras sand is lighter Onnoki or not.

 

[MorphyRulez]

Also, yes onnoki did what you think but now it's Gaara's new ability. So we should consider that his sand is now lighter as before because the current Gaaras sand is lighter Onnoki or not.

If we would think like that " his new ability " , yes he might be able to rip of him from susanoo like Madara. And Thanks to be a given logical example.

 

[Ambriel]

Wrong. It was 2. Look it well and you will see 2arrows:

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Yeah that's what we should call a side effect of his jutsu like Sasuke also had here:

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(You can see him sweating)
Or here:

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Here too:

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(he seems to have difficulties to breath and stay up)
Like here too:

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(here it seems like his life is even in danger)

I can show you a lot of scenes in that fight where Sasuke was in difficulty but that bring nothing. There were also scenes where he had difficulties to stay up and his mouth was bleeding because he had difficulties to maintain Susanoo for too long and launch his arrows.

But all that doesn't mean that even if they have side effects of their jutsus, they can't still fight. Proof is that after that Kakashi noticed the side effect of the jutsu, he was able to continue fighting with ease(he gave a blow to Sasuke that made him go way to the bridge:

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He also managed to escape quickly to a clone that manage to take him from behind, jumped and catch Naruto with ease:

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).

So even if kamui has a side effect on him, it doesn't mean he can't do that again and again. You are always saying that, if Sasuke throws 3arrows it will be over for Kakashi, but what you have forgotten is that even in the fight against Danzo, he only manage to throw it 3/4 times(forgotten) and even during that, he had side effects of his jutsus.

Kakashi is not the only one who will get tired after that if we consider that the fight would have occured at that time.

I say it because time has past since that. Now it seems Sasuke control Susanoo more easier than before, and Kakashi can fight during 2days against 7swordsmen+haku+2guy with KG+5Jinchurikis along with Guy. So maybe their stamina are far more impressive as they were at that time.

Yeah the fact that Onnoki made Gaara's sans lighter made it more easier for Gaara to catch Madara, but that doesn't mean that even without it, he couldn't. It's not Onnoki who helps Gaara to control sand. There was sand near Madara. Even if Onnoki wasn't there he could have control it. So nothing proves he couldn't have pull out Madara with the same way.

Also, yes onnoki did what you think but now it's Gaara's new ability. So we should consider that his sand is now lighter as before because the current Gaaras sand is lighter Onnoki or not.

EMS sasuke usin his susanoo or other techniques doesn't cause side effects

 

[lswhyte123]

Kazekage & Kakashi>>>EMS Sasuke, whether fanboys/ Sasuke fans a like, like it or not. So far,we've seen nothing that makes anyone think Sasuke could win.

 

[soulless uchiha]

gaara and kakashi take this

 

[lnvalid]

EMS sasuke usin his susanoo or other techniques doesn't cause side effects

it is never stated in the manga that EMS has no side effects, only that it is "able to stay active much longer than MS" and secondly we have barely seen sasuke use his EMS since the transplant aside from the white zetsus so....there is no basis for the past statement

 

[Ambriel]

it is never stated in the manga that EMS has no side effects, only that it is "able to stay active much longer than MS" and secondly we have barely seen sasuke use his EMS since the transplant aside from the white zetsus so....there is no basis for the past statement

So far Sasuke has shot four susanoo arrows, done Amaterasu, and genjutsu with no eye strain.

 

[lnvalid]

So far Sasuke has shot four susanoo arrows, done Amaterasu, and genjutsu with no eye strain.

So far, but to claim its immune to any side effects is without proof. Remember in "real time" its been what, 24 hours in the manga since Sasuke took off his bandages, killed the Zetsu and now is in battle with Itachi against Kabuto. a less than 24 hour period of having EMS available and an hour or so of battle usage accumulated is no where near enough to determine what it will do, if anything to sasuke.

AND
this aside, It still doesn't prove how he can beat Kakashi and Gaara with the ingenuity we have seen Gaara use mixing other minerals such as gold with his sand for chemical reactions and benefits, he and Kakashi are both much smarter than fanboys give them credit for.

 

[Ambriel]

So far, but to claim its immune to any side effects is without proof. Remember in "real time" its been what, 24 hours in the manga since Sasuke took off his bandages, killed the Zetsu and now is in battle with Itachi against Kabuto. a less than 24 hour period of having EMS available and an hour or so of battle usage accumulated is no where near enough to determine what it will do, if anything to sasuke.

AND
this aside, It still doesn't prove how he can beat Kakashi and Gaara with the ingenuity we have seen Gaara use mixing other minerals such as gold with his sand for chemical reactions and benefits, he and Kakashi are both much smarter than fanboys give them credit for.

When sasuke got Ms soon as he started usin susanoo or Amaterasu he grab his eye in pain, not once has that happen to ems sasuke. Yes kakashi is smart but his best attack to get sasuke is his kumai but once he looks at sasuke he wll be in a genjutsu. Gaara cant pull sasuke out of his susanoo without the help of onoki so I dnt see him bein a problem

 

[Drakengard]

I'm going with Kakashi and Gaara. They both witnessed Sasuke's susano'o first hand, and if you give ninja of their caliber time to analyze techniques, they can find ways around them. Kakashi's Doton might help them while Gaara takes his attention away.

 

[am no one]

When sasuke got Ms soon as he started usin susanoo or Amaterasu he grab his eye in pain, not once has that happen to ems sasuke. Yes kakashi is smart but his best attack to get sasuke is his kumai but once he looks at sasuke he wll be in a genjutsu. Gaara cant pull sasuke out of his susanoo without the help of onoki so I dnt see him bein a problem

If it is tuskoymi then maybe and sasuke shit at it so kakashi wont die
If it just a normal genjustu with base shargain then no,just no

 

[MinatoNamikage]

well unlimited amaterasu with the ems on kakashi and gaara defends from amaterasu so he use susanoo arrow on gaara
sasuke > kakashi and gaara
sasuke win high diffuculty

 

[Minato fanboy]

gaara and kakashi takes this one

 

[lnvalid]

When sasuke got Ms soon as he started usin susanoo or Amaterasu he grab his eye in pain, not once has that happen to ems sasuke. Yes kakashi is smart but his best attack to get sasuke is his kumai but once he looks at sasuke he wll be in a genjutsu. Gaara cant pull sasuke out of his susanoo without the help of onoki so I dnt see him bein a problem

Gaara can make Sasukes genjutsu pointless with the exterior eye technique (its actual name escapes me at the moment)
and it was Madaras Sussano that required onoki's help and i'm pretty sure sasukes sussano is subpar compared to Madaras. Along with his recent use of gold dust (used in his fathers kekkei genkai) he's one step closer to possibly learning magnet release.

Tsunade, Raikage+onoki, both have broke through Madaras, and the sussano we have seen sasuke use now has shown no advantage over madaras.

Secondly Kakashi. Dont say all he has is kumai, yes he can use it as an occasional trump card, but he's not one to use it unless there is no other choice. Kakashi is smart, smart enough to be desired as the new hokage after Tsunades coma.

 

[Saiyan Kammy]

EMS Sasuke high difficulty

 

[Ambriel]

Gaara can make Sasukes genjutsu pointless with the exterior eye technique (its actual name escapes me at the moment)
and it was Madaras Sussano that required onoki's help and i'm pretty sure sasukes sussano is subpar compared to Madaras. Along with his recent use of gold dust (used in his fathers kekkei genkai) he's one step closer to possibly learning magnet release.

Tsunade, Raikage+onoki, both have broke through Madaras, and the sussano we have seen sasuke use now has shown no advantage over madaras.

Secondly Kakashi. Dont say all he has is kumai, yes he can use it as an occasional trump card, but he's not one to use it unless there is no other choice. Kakashi is smart, smart enough to be desired as the new hokage after Tsunades coma.

If you are talkin about gaara sand eye which he usin his real eye to see cuz he has to close one eye then yes he can still fall pray to genjutsu. Susanoo is susanoo gaara cant pull him out without the help of onoki, and where in the manga did it say gaara learned gold dust plz provide a link. Kakashi has no attack that would get him past susanoo, Amaterasu would kill him.

 

[Kakashii]

like what kumi we seen how long it takes kakashi to aim it and it sasuke could easily fly on that hawk shot amterasu and then use kirin garra finish with that then amaterasu arrows kakashi stop trolling

kakashi can wrap anything with his kamui in less than a second dude!
current kakashi is beast . hes always improving and + now he can use kamui probably 4/5 times without collapsing (with full chakra).
he was about to use kamui 6 times to stop the 6 bijuu damas in the war.
yes he would collapse but if you think about it he was about to wrap 6 giant balls and the chakra spent is proportional to the size of the object wrapped.
so it means that possibly he can still use 2 times kamui on a human body without collapsing after 2 days/nights at war with sharingan activated and after fighting the swordmans and 4 bijuu's at the same time.
im not saying that the only thing that he need to do is kamui sasuke im saying that kakashi is no longer a mer jounin hes completely on a kage's level and people shouldn't underestimate him.

kakashi and gaara would deal with sasuke with a hard difficulty but still they would win without any of the 2 getting killed.

 

[lnvalid]

If you are talkin about gaara sand eye which he usin his real eye to see cuz he has to close one eye then yes he can still fall pray to genjutsu. Susanoo is susanoo gaara cant pull him out without the help of onoki, and where in the manga did it say gaara learned gold dust plz provide a link. Kakashi has no attack that would get him past susanoo, Amaterasu would kill him.

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If he can manipulate gold particles that were leftover from his fight with his father, whats stopping him from manipulating gold particles found in nature, like he does other minerals quite often, like against kimmimarou. (typo)

 

[Ambriel]

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If he can manipulate gold particles that were leftover from his fight with his father, whats stopping him from manipulating gold particles found in nature, like he does other minerals quite often, like against kimmimarou. (typo)

Gaara mixed it with his sand. He doesnt have it if he did he would've been usin it against Madara now.