Kakashi & Gaara Vs Sasuke EMS

[teetooktier]

I think the real questions are A: Can Sasuke survive getting pulled out of Susano'o? If he can, it's unlikely the mistake will be repeated, and then Gaara and Kakashi are in some trouble, because only Kamui might be able to penetrate Susano'o. Otherwise, it ends there. B: Can Gaara take a Tsukoyomi and still defend against a Susano'o arrow? The way I see it, Sasuke hits Gaara with Tsukoyomi, attacks Kakashi with something to prevent Kamui, then shoots Gaara. 1 on 1, no chance for Kakashi. About the only way I see Sasuke winning.

Overall, seems to me that Sasuke's at a pretty big disadvantage, so I'm voting for the 2 ninjas with medium-high difficulty.

 

[lnvalid]

Gaara mixed it with his sand. He doesnt have it if he did he would've been usin it against Madara now.

doesn't have it, yes. Can use it, yes. If he can use and manipulate it, then he can aquire it from in the ground, if he can (as he has done before) search for specific minerals in the ground to fit the purpouse he needs. He can do the same with the gold element.

How can gaara manipulate gold above ground an inside objects but the minute its in the ground hes all "sorry guys, sub ground isn't my specialty...lol"
He can, we saw him do it once, as long as there is some in the ground...he can use it now.

 

[Kakashii]

I think the real questions are A: Can Sasuke survive getting pulled out of Susano'o? If he can, it's unlikely the mistake will be repeated, and then Gaara and Kakashi are in some trouble, because only Kamui might be able to penetrate Susano'o. Otherwise, it ends there. B: Can Gaara take a Tsukoyomi and still defend against a Susano'o arrow? The way I see it, Sasuke hits Gaara with Tsukoyomi, attacks Kakashi with something to prevent Kamui, then shoots Gaara. 1 on 1, no chance for Kakashi. About the only way I see Sasuke winning.

Overall, seems to me that Sasuke's at a pretty big disadvantage, so I'm voting for the 2 ninjas with medium-high difficulty.

why do people think that the only way to stop sasuke is by the use of kamui?!
gaara's sand can bury sasuke and literally crush him. gaara could automatically disable sasuke from the battle by covering him with sand stopping any jutsu sasuke can preform. like if sand was everywhere on the air sasuke couldn't use amaterasu cuz he would hit the sand. genjutsu would be kinda pointless since he couldn't have eye contact with gaara besides sasuke sucking at genjutsu :|
and btw if danzo was able to break free from his tsukuyami why couldn't kakashi and gaara do it? :shrug:

 

[Ambriel]

doesn't have it, yes. Can use it, yes. If he can use and manipulate it, then he can aquire it from in the ground, if he can (as he has done before) search for specific minerals in the ground to fit the purpouse he needs. He can do the same with the gold element.

How can gaara manipulate gold above ground an inside objects but the minute its in the ground hes all "sorry guys, sub ground isn't my specialty...lol"
He can, we saw him do it once, as long as there is some in the ground...he can use it now.

Gaara hid some gold dust into his sand clone he didn't control the gold thats a magnet release kekkei genkai something gaara doesnt have.

 

[OWanime]

from what we've seen so far from sasuke with ems , kakashi and gaara should win (mid diff) xd

 

[Koibito]

sand is mini rocks kakashi wont be in this fight that long to say he can counter anything hint hint what he did to zetsu and garra sand isnt that fast movung towards people as i said kakashi finish garra with kirin naruto normal rasengan went thru garra sand so you no a kirin will blow thru garra and a second

You do realize that sasuke can't just pull a kirin out of his ass dont you?

 

[lnvalid]

Gaara hid some gold dust into his sand clone he didn't control the gold thats a magnet release kekkei genkai something gaara doesnt have.

WRONG, gaara made multiple can clones for instance, here

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for the tsuchikage and then in the previous link i gave he used the clone of himself, but all of these clones are made form his base sand resevoir. Are you telling me he made a single clone absorb the gold then hide, and swapped out with the clone before taking the hit from mizu's clone? That would be the only way the clone took the gold dust and not gaara himself into his gourd or some form of storage (in ground or otherwise) and gold dust usage is part of magnet release, I'm not saying he has it. I know he doesn't, as of yet.

Who knows about later though, but simply using more practical elements like gold in this instance shows Gaaras much grander ability of mineral (more than just sand) manipulation. Now if he could control "iron sand" as its stated, then yeah, he would be almost at magnet release, but hes not.

 

[FloriGlori]

Most likely Sasuke, with inconsequential difficulties.

Gaara has neither the speed nor the defence to dodge or block Sasuke's arrows, and won't be able to pull Sasuke out of Susanoo without help from Oonoki and a bunch of sacrifices to distract him. He won't be able to penetrate it as well, since none of his attacks proved to be strong enough for such a task. On top of that Sasuke can dodge and move freely inside Susanoo until stage two, and already has experience with Gaara.

Kakashi.. well. He may be able to avoid damage through Kamui, but he won't be able to do so forever, not to mention the strain Kamui has on his body - though not even Kamui would protect him from Amaterasu itself. Furthermore he has nothing to harm Susanoo, so I don't see him being that much of a challenge for Sasuke. But since Kakashi is a very clever and tricky Shinobi, I don't put surviving for a while past him.

 

[Ambriel]

WRONG, gaara made multiple can clones for instance, here

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for the tsuchikage and then in the previous link i gave he used the clone of himself, but all of these clones are made form his base sand resevoir. Are you telling me he made a single clone absorb the gold then hide, and swapped out with the clone before taking the hit from mizu's clone? That would be the only way the clone took the gold dust and not gaara himself into his gourd or some form of storage (in ground or otherwise) and gold dust usage is part of magnet release, I'm not saying he has it. I know he doesn't, as of yet.

Who knows about later though, but simply using more practical elements like gold in this instance shows Gaaras much grander ability of mineral (more than just sand) manipulation. Now if he could control "iron sand" as its stated, then yeah, he would be almost at magnet release, but hes not.

Gaara doesnt have magnet release so he cant do iron sand

 

[BlackDude]

Ambriel you shouldnt argue with these kids


Sasuke > Gaara/Kakashi whether they want to accept it or not xd

 

[Forget Me Not]

Sasuke already practically beat Kakashi in their previous encounter with a couple of Susano'o arrows due to the speed being too fast for his body to respond in time. Sasuke also beat standard Gaara in the Chunin exams before it was interrupted.

Sasuke takes this with mid-high difficulty. This should be self-explanatory.

 

[Mishima]

Lol, the fanboys have arrived, as for the first part of gaaras sand, Madaras sussano (as fail as its been lately) is still stronger than sasukes (u mad?) Gaara would need no amplification to penetrate sasukes sussano.

Secondly, comparing Sasuke to gaara or sasuke to kakashi is entirely different than comparing him to both at once. Kakashi and Gaara as a team work together very well against an opponent like Sasuke. Thats the point of this thread, when Kakashi is low on stamina Gaara is a perfect match to keep him aided. and vice versa

Dont make me laugh. Garra sand isnt gonna even touch Sasuke while in final form sussano. Why would you even quote me and give such a stupid reply? Next time reply with a logical answer. What a shame your gonna call me a fanboy because I think Sasuke wins. Lol then you must be a hypocrite. You obviously think Kakashi and Garra win so what does it make you? A sasuke hater or Kakashi fanboy/Garra fanboy.xd

 

[lnvalid]

Dont make me laugh. Garra sand isnt gonna even touch Sasuke while in final form sussano. Why would you even quote me and give such a stupid reply? Next time reply with a logical answer. What a shame your gonna call me a fanboy because I think Sasuke wins. Lol then you must be a hypocrite. You obviously think Kakashi and Garra win so what does it make you? A sasuke hater or Kakashi fanboy/Garra fanboy.xd

Lol at being mad that your called a fanboy when your username is "EMS Sasuke 123"

My reply is illogical? Kakashi alone and gaara alone yes, they would lose, but this thread is about the combo which so many butthurt fans dont get. Gaara would easily keep sasuke on his toes, even if he couldn't kill him gaara (kage level, not the season 1 form ppl keep thinking he is...) would keep sasuke with his hands full either trying to Genjutsu him or Kakashi. one only, couldn't Genjutsu both at once. giving the other say, kakashi avaliability to Kamui at will.
Teamwork was the point of this. Not "Gaara can kill sasuke" or "kakashi would kill sasuke"
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[kotoamatsukami]

Lol at being mad that your called a fanboy when your username is "EMS Sasuke 123"

My reply is illogical? Kakashi alone and gaara alone yes, they would lose, but this thread is about the combo which so many butthurt fans dont get. Gaara would easily keep sasuke on his toes, even if he couldn't kill him gaara (kage level, not the season 1 form ppl keep thinking he is...) would keep sasuke with his hands full either trying to Genjutsu him or Kakashi. one only, couldn't Genjutsu both at once. giving the other say, kakashi avaliability to Kamui at will.
Teamwork was the point of this. Not "Gaara can kill sasuke" or "kakashi would kill sasuke"
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naw kakashi an gaara going to die from trying to protect 1 another i just dont see sasuke losing 1 kamui will leave kakashi wide open gaara will have to protect him they lose cuz kakashi is just in the way.

 

[Mishima]

Wrong. It was 2. Look it well and you will see 2arrows:

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Yeah that's what we should call a side effect of his jutsu like Sasuke also had here:

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(You can see him sweating)
Or here:

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Here too:

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(he seems to have difficulties to breath and stay up)
Like here too:

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(here it seems like his life is even in danger)

I can show you a lot of scenes in that fight where Sasuke was in difficulty but that bring nothing. There were also scenes where he had difficulties to stay up and his mouth was bleeding because he had difficulties to maintain Susanoo for too long and launch his arrows.

But all that doesn't mean that even if they have side effects of their jutsus, they can't still fight. Proof is that after that Kakashi noticed the side effect of the jutsu, he was able to continue fighting with ease(he gave a blow to Sasuke that made him go way to the bridge:

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He also managed to escape quickly to a clone that manage to take him from behind, jumped and catch Naruto with ease:

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).

So even if kamui has a side effect on him, it doesn't mean he can't do that again and again. You are always saying that, if Sasuke throws 3arrows it will be over for Kakashi, but what you have forgotten is that even in the fight against Danzo, he only manage to throw it 3/4 times(forgotten) and even during that, he had side effects of his jutsus.

Kakashi is not the only one who will get tired after that if we consider that the fight would have occured at that time.

I say it because time has past since that. Now it seems Sasuke control Susanoo more easier than before, and Kakashi can fight during 2days against 7swordsmen+haku+2guy with KG+5Jinchurikis along with Guy. So maybe their stamina are far more impressive as they were at that time.

Yeah the fact that Onnoki made Gaara's sans lighter made it more easier for Gaara to catch Madara, but that doesn't mean that even without it, he couldn't. It's not Onnoki who helps Gaara to control sand. There was sand near Madara. Even if Onnoki wasn't there he could have control it. So nothing proves he couldn't have pull out Madara with the same way.

Also, yes onnoki did what you think but now it's Gaara's new ability. So we should consider that his sand is now lighter as before because the current Gaaras sand is lighter Onnoki or not.

Remember Sasuke has eternal mangekyou sharingan so doing sussano arrows, amaterasu etc will have no drawback.

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hes not sweating here he looks fine to me. No bleeding eyes ethier.

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he just shot a sussano arrow and he isnt even sweating nor breathing heavily.
With the links you posted, I would be sweating too if I had to fight 4 kage.xd
Show me proof that there was sand near Madara.

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You claim Garra doesn't onnoki to pull madara out of the sussano why didnt garra do from the start?

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this is why onnoki made garra's sand light.

 

[lnvalid]

Remember Sasuke has eternal mangekyou sharingan so doing sussano arrows, amaterasu etc will have no drawback.

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hes not sweating here he looks fine to me. No bleeding eyes ethier.

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he just shot a sussano arrow and he isnt even sweating nor breathing heavily.
With the links you posted, I would be sweating too if I had to fight 4 kage.xd
Show me proof that there was sand near Madara.

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You claim Garra doesn't onnoki to pull madara out of the sussano why didnt garra do from the start?

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this is why onnoki made garra's sand light.

I couldn't resist. xd

1) regarding his EMS and it not showing him sweat or fatigue. This is the very FIRST tech he uses in the manga with his EMS. It's WAY to early to use that as an example for "It's flawless and you will never tire!" congrads he used EMS for what, 15...30 seconds? Include the kabuto battle and its an hour, 2 max. There is NOWHERE IN THE MANGA that says EMS cause no side effects or strain, only that quote "It can be activated much longer than MS" Check the wiki....

2)In regards to sussano arrow, see previous paragraph.

3)let me define sand for you. "the more or less fine debris of rocks, consisting of small, loose grains, often of quartz. " i.e. if there is any rock underneath you, there is the matter used to make sand. Take the fight between kimmimarou and Gaara, he spent the whole fight letting his sand underneath the field grind up a mass amount of even more sand so that he created a desert.

And 4) (dont worry, were almost there bub...) Onoki makes matter lighter, he did it with raikage's body and gaaras sand. This lets the objects affected move faster, thats it. In this instance it was never stated why, only implied. when Gaara says "It's lighter...that means...!" that his sand attack would be fast enough to catch madara, that his normal speed would be too slow and madara would notice it.

i'm not a gaara fanboy, but have spent this evening studying him up with all the "gaara threads" on NB. I just love proving Sasuke fanboys wrong.

Declicious

 

[Mishima]

Lol at being mad that your called a fanboy when your username is "EMS Sasuke 123"

My reply is illogical? Kakashi alone and gaara alone yes, they would lose, but this thread is about the combo which so many butthurt fans dont get. Gaara would easily keep sasuke on his toes, even if he couldn't kill him gaara (kage level, not the season 1 form ppl keep thinking he is...) would keep sasuke with his hands full either trying to Genjutsu him or Kakashi. one only, couldn't Genjutsu both at once. giving the other say, kakashi avaliability to Kamui at will.
Teamwork was the point of this. Not "Gaara can kill sasuke" or "kakashi would kill sasuke"
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How sad you judge people on there usernames:sy:


Kakashi and Garra are a team yes. But do you think Sasuke is an idiot? Sasuke fought garra twice so he knows what garra's sand is capable of. As for Kakashi, Sasuke damn well knows what he can do. Sasuke is a genius he can strategies am i saying Kakashi and Garra arent smart, no. Am I saying Sasuke is smarter than both of them no but until theres proof.

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[lnvalid]

How sad you judge people on there usernames:sy:


Kakashi and Garra are a team yes. But do you think Sasuke is an idiot? Sasuke fought garra twice so he knows what garra's sand is capable of. As for Kakashi, Sasuke damn well knows what he can do. Sasuke is a genius he can strategies am i saying Kakashi and Garra arent smart, no. Am I saying Sasuke is smarter than both of them no but until theres proof.

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So all thats left for sasuke now is hes smarter than them both right? and he has fought gaara twice?
Well, that works both ways. gaara fought sasuke as well and applied his knowledge to succesfully against madara. Sasuke has NOT fought gaara since his ability to use gold dust (check the wiki, its now listed under "tools" on gaaras page that he uses gold dust after his battle with his father) and gaara is much more clever than last time they fought. and there is a reason hes the leader of the allied shinobi army.

As for kakashi, the man who tought him Raiton manipulation, I'm sure hes not stupid and definately knows how to counter sasukes lightning moves. EMS Sussano is sasukes only advantage unless he can pull out a genjutsu before kakashi.

 

[Mishima]

So all thats left for sasuke now is hes smarter than them both right? and he has fought gaara twice?
Well, that works both ways. gaara fought sasuke as well and applied his knowledge to succesfully against madara. Sasuke has NOT fought gaara since his ability to use gold dust (check the wiki, its now listed under "tools" on gaaras page that he uses gold dust after his battle with his father) and gaara is much more clever than last time they fought. and there is a reason hes the leader of the allied shinobi army.

As for kakashi, the man who tought him Raiton manipulation, I'm sure hes not stupid and definately knows how to counter sasukes lightning moves. EMS Sussano is sasukes only advantage unless he can pull out a genjutsu before kakashi.

Let me ask you a question to test your hate against sasuke or fanboytism towards gaara and kakashi.
If Sasuke gets Izanami would you still say gaara and kakashi win?

Garra only mixed gold dest with his sand. If he knew how to naturally use like his father then Garra would have magnet release and I dont see magnet release on gaaras winkia page. Kakashi didnt teach sasuke raiton manipulation sasuke learn that while training with orochimaru, Kakashi only taught him chidori. Sasuke is better at genjutsu than kakashi by far. How is sussano sasuke's only advantage. Sasuke doesn't need sussano to beat them. All he needs is smarts

 

[Bogard]

Let me ask you a question to test your hate against sasuke or fanboytism towards gaara and kakashi.
If Sasuke gets Izanami would you still say gaara and kakashi win?

We don't even know how Izanami works. So can't you just wait a bit for the next chapter?? But if it works like Izanagi, i still think they will win. Why?? Because if Sasuke use it he will lose at least one of his Sharingans. And if he loses it, good bye Susanoo, good bye Amaterasu or Tsukiyomi or even both, and he will also become blind. I wonder how he will continue to fight after that. He will get raped.

I don't think Gaara has again gold in his sand though. As i read it, it seems he had only conserv a small quantity of gold that was left by his father and he had already used it against the Nidaimes puppet. I don't think he can use gold anymore.