Minato is actually weaker than a lot of Naruto Characters.

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Not really.

Madara can use Izanagi to bypass anything that could be harmful to him,even as far as death.

So no.And with Madara,Tobi,Danzo,basically anyone that can use Izanagi.

And we still have to wait to see Izanami in action
Well, taking in consideration theat Izanagi costs an Eye, Literally, I don't believe the user will use it recklessly. It is not infinite. You use it twice and your blind/dead unless they have a spare set in their pocket.
 

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the only thing mniato can do is tie with the 3rd raikage.

izanami is irrelevant itachi lol genjutsus minato something minato doesn't have a appropriate counter for.
Man.. ur assumptions r too naive.. ddn't jaz d 4th Raikage (D 3rd Raikage's son son) believed dat MInato could never be surpassed!!

Can u give me some proof where d Manga states dat Minato was caught through a powerful genjutsu.. Or he never had a counter attack for it!!
 

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Minato hasnt shown a technique strong enough to get through his lightening armour but look how Naruto figured out his weakness although he did have information somehow i think Minato woud pull it of as hes smarter then naruto

Itachis genjutsu is all Close range if Mianto plays his cards right and outlasts him he could win both are smart so it would be a really good battle it is obvious to most that ninjutsu wise Itachi is stronger.

Genjutsu has never been shown to kill of high tier enemies as well its not the end game at all
Good points.
 
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I believed you as many others have missed the point about Minato:
1. There is a reason why Sarutobi and the village made him Hokage at an early age. At least we can assume that he was as strong or stronger than Sarutobi who is a top 5 shinobi or top 3 without Eros.
2. He created the Rasengan, the highest form of chakra shape and manipulation. Everyone else learns jutsus, he created one.
3. Space time techniques. At least in par with Tobi. His FTG level 2 owned Tobi and we don't even know if he has other levels. He S/T 2 x TBB and Kurama, and owned Tobi on the same night and still sealed Kurama in Naruto. This renders most jutsus useless.
4. Speed, there is nobody in Narutoverse faster than him.
5. Sealing jutsus, he was an expert in sealing which makes him a perfect candidate to defeat an Edo Madara. Enough said for this one.
6. Intelligence, in par with Itachi, was able to figure out Tobi's power in one or two blows. Who has done that in the manga, no one. He was considered a genius.
7. Minato was never defeated in battle. He eliminated entire platoons in a flash. Ninjas from other villages were comanded to retreat if they saw Minato, which by the time they saw him it was too late and they were dead.
Minato decided to die, he wasn't killed like everyone else.
8. He was the Holage for a reason. The strongest Shinobi's in the Manga come from Konoha and he was the strongest during his time.

Minato weak, I don't think so. You should make another thread on the very few characters who could defeat Minato.

Of course there is a lot about Minato that we don't know. We'll have to wait and see if Kishi will show us some more of him.

At least some1 in here who speaks through facts & not mere assumptions..
 

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Who can beat Minato?
Nagato yes
Edo Madara Yes
Tobi Maybe depending on what rinnegan techniques he has
Kabuto with edo summons of Nagato and Edo Madara hell yes by himself no
Itachi Maybe id have said minato until now because he oulasts his susanoo but he has a new technique
3rd Raikakge No
Mu No
Hiruzen Maybe
BM Naruto Yes
Sasuke No
3raikage-no...........minato cant even hurt th 3rd raikage buy yet the 3rd raikage has the speed to hit him.And one hit and minato is done for.
 

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How can you say Minato is weak when we have never seen him fight seriously? Sorry, but I don't think we've seen enough of his fighting abilities to say he's weak or strong. But, he is a Hokage, and that alone makes me believe he must be powerful. He might be weaker in strength, but he appears to have high intelligence and of course, his lightning quick speed. But that's it. That's all we've seen from him. Who's to say there's not more power behind him than what we've seen. Sure Nagato, Madara and Naruto might be able to beat him from what we know about him but we don't know enough. What I'm trying to say is, he might be stronger than what we think he appears to be. I just hope Kishi gives us a chance to see Minato is a full battle, trying his very best. I'm sorry for typing so much.. I sure rambled on...
 

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I believed you as many others have missed the point about Minato:
1. There is a reason why Sarutobi and the village made him Hokage at an early age. At least we can assume that he was as strong or stronger than Sarutobi who is a top 5 shinobi or top 3 without Eros.
2. He created the Rasengan, the highest form of chakra shape and manipulation. Everyone else learns jutsus, he created one.
3. Space time techniques. At least in par with Tobi. His FTG level 2 owned Tobi and we don't even know if he has other levels. He S/T 2 x TBB and Kurama, and owned Tobi on the same night and still sealed Kurama in Naruto. This renders most jutsus useless.
4. Speed, there is nobody in Narutoverse faster than him.
5. Sealing jutsus, he was an expert in sealing which makes him a perfect candidate to defeat an Edo Madara. Enough said for this one.
6. Intelligence, in par with Itachi, was able to figure out Tobi's power in one or two blows. Who has done that in the manga, no one. He was considered a genius.
7. Minato was never defeated in battle. He eliminated entire platoons in a flash. Ninjas from other villages were comanded to retreat if they saw Minato, which by the time they saw him it was too late and they were dead.
Minato decided to die, he wasn't killed like everyone else.
8. He was the Holage for a reason. The strongest Shinobi's in the Manga come from Konoha and he was the strongest during his time.

Minato weak, I don't think so. You should make another thread on the very few characters who could defeat Minato.

Of course there is a lot about Minato that we don't know. We'll have to wait and see if Kishi will show us some more of him.

At least some1 in here who speaks through facts & not mere assumptions..
Name one sealing technique that can take down edo madara.....like i always say. powerful sealing techniques take time thats why he had kushina hold down the kyubii.Fast ones need preperation thats why sand ninja carry those scrolls to seal the edo.

Space time technique is at least on par with tobi..... even kakashi said that tobi's tech was mode advanced.
 

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Not really.

Madara can use Izanagi to bypass anything that could be harmful to him,even as far as death.

So no.And with Madara,Tobi,Danzo,basically anyone that can use Izanagi.

And we still have to wait to see Izanami in action
before you type pls think, not the other way round how many times can an uchiha (madara) use izanagi? Then ask yourself howmany times minato can seal or teleport, minato only use the flying thunder god tech level 2 to defeat tobi. Put this in your big heads tobi has never been touched so is minato. But minato vs tobi ....who got whacked.....?
 

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Not really.

Madara can use Izanagi to bypass anything that could be harmful to him,even as far as death.

So no.And with Madara,Tobi,Danzo,basically anyone that can use Izanagi.

And we still have to wait to see Izanami in action

you talk a lot as if madara had more than two eyes :D
 

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There's no denying that the OP has some valid points. Personally I feel that Minato is more skilled than most of the "strongest" characters, but ultimately has greater difficulty securing a kill. Dust tech, Susano'o, Amaterasu, Rasenshuriken etc all have the potential to instantly end a fight; Rasengan does not compare. That said, you don't necessarily need one of those techs to beat someone with high defense; check out Naruto's win against the 3rd Raikage. As for regeneration, I'm almost certain that there's some kind of seal that would help slow it down, stop it, or screw it up otherwise. As for Orochimaru's mouth rebirth thing, he has to be alive to do it; if Minato insta kills him, it won't be a problem. To summarize, Minato would have difficulty finishing the strongest, but that's not to say that he couldn't, or wouldn't if they actually fought.
 
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the problem for minato that he lacks a piercing move is something i said quite a while ago.

the solution is as boring as possible: he can teleport more often then others can hold up their defense. the only character that has a "natural" defense that doesnt cost chakra seems to be gaara, so he would be the perfect counter. but apart from that he can just evade, as long as he's not surprised or incautious he's fine. takes a lot of concentration and skill to evade every single attack, but he has them and therefore against the slower half of the top-characters he'd be fine.
 
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sure I admit minato can take on thousands of enemies and kill em all in the blink of an eye. But what really matters is how he would go against the other kage rank shinobies and its not looking too good for minato.
he made the 4th raikage his bitch... showed tobi who is boss, its not looking good for them..
 

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Minato is not considered strong because of flashy (no pun intended) techniques, but because of his skill and intellect. He instead defeats his opponent with strategy and the FTG, and luckily, most people he faces are not immune to having their throat slit :hint: He doesn't go flying around destroying buildings and smashing rocks, but it only took him a few panels to make A and Kirabi his b!tches. He's also, to date, the only person to really hurt Tobi without dying or taking damage at that.

Of course, Minato has a great defense against large scale attacks due to his skill with Space Time barriers and such. He also has sealing jutsu. It just goes to show...big explosions and surreal jutsu are not always necessary to be dangerous.
this right here ^^
 
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