Minato is actually weaker than a lot of Naruto Characters.

[Grammar Nazi]

Dude just shut up and please stop posting because if you believe that mess you just wrote you apparently haven't been reading the manga whatsoever.

1. Minato was the freaking Hokage and took over for Hiruzen(God of Shinobi) while he was still alive.
2. He was feared for a reason why because of his; speed, genius, ninjutsu arsenal, strength, large chakra reserves,and ability to take out armies within seconds,
3. He was taught by Jiraiya who was taught by Hiruzen, who was taught by the 2nd Hokage. SOOOO I am sure he has learned some very powerful jutsu along the way of his training. We might not know of his elemental release but he was very strong without it
4. He created the Rasengan which is based off the most powerful attack(Tailed Beast Bomb) in the Shinobi world.
5. He fought against Kurama and Tobi and still had enough chakra to seal Kurama and part of him and Kushina's chakra within Naruto. (Tell me how many people you know that can fight Kurama head on...................I am waiting)
6. He learned Fuinjutsu from Kushina's mother who was from the Uzamaki Clan. You know that clan with all the Fuinjutsu masters in it and even where the Eight Trigrams Seal and the current seal Naruto is using came from. HMMMM Fuinjutsu was powerful enough to create Flying Thunder God and we don't know all the other stuff he created.

I am sorry dude but you lost this battle as soon as you came out with that mess. He is praised by many to be either one of the most feared, respected, or powerful Shinobi or Hokage in history and you don't gain a title like that by having a small arsenal.

Minato was like the Michaeangelo of Shinobi when it came to his strength, power, speed, genius, and overall will of fire.

1. I totally agree on this. Minato became hokage when Hiruzen was about 56. Jiraiya was about the same age when he died. I dont think Jiraiya was having any troubles cause of his old age when he was fighting Pein. In fact he was as strong as he ever was. This leads me to think, maybe Minato did become the hokage when Hiruzen was in his prime. And considering how Hiruzen performed during the nine tails onslaught, I am not impressed with prime Hiruzen at all. Note- Hiruzen defeated Orochimaru 3 years after the nine tails attack. So he was in his prime back then.
2. Again I am not denying the power of the yellow flash. He can destroy fodders like no one else.
3. This is where I am not convinced. We HAVE NOT seen any powerful moves used by anyone along that line. We dont know if the 2nd, third or even Jiraiya had any big power moves. edit:Maybe sm counts for Jiraiya.
4. Yeah he is indeed the creator of rasengan but base rasengan pales in comparison to jutsus like rasenshuriken, odama rasengan, tailed beast bomb, amaterasu, shinra tensai etc.
5. His chakra reserve is quite impressive....
LOL I got complains from the vet apparently some guys named madara and hashirama have been treating the kyuubi like their pets when it should be running wild.
6. Yeah he created the ftg based on fuinjutsu. but what else has he created other than that? Again all we can do is speculate we dont know for sure.

and finally sure Minato was respected and feared as a shinobi but I am not sure if he was the MOST FEARED one in history. I think Madara takes that one from konoha.

Again I don't think Minato will make it to the Top5 of the Narutoverse. So he is not as strong as the top5. had to be careful with my selection of words

 

[home]

god damn how can one character cause so many arguments
oh and by the way this thread is flawed he can take down anyone with the death reaper seal

 

[Grammar Nazi]

god damn how can one character cause so many arguments
oh and by the way this thread is flawed he can take down anyone with the death reaper seal

Reaper death seal is a suicide move so it won't be Minato's win. Plus he can not kill someone with Izanagi, Inanazi would cause Minato to die but his victim would live.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

1. I totally agree on this. Minato became hokage when Hiruzen was about 56. Jiraiya was about the same age when he died. I dont think Jiraiya was having any troubles cause of his old age when he was fighting Pein. In fact he was as strong as he ever was. This leads me to think, maybe Minato did become the hokage when Hiruzen was in his prime. And considering how Hiruzen performed during the nine tails onslaught, I am not impressed with prime Hiruzen at all. Note- Hiruzen defeated Orochimaru 3 years after the nine tails attack. So he was in his prime back then.
2. Again I am not denying the power of the yellow flash. He can destroy fodders like no one else.
3. This is where I am not convinced. We HAVE NOT seen any powerful moves used by anyone along that line. We dont know if the 2nd, third or even Jiraiya had any big power moves. edit:Maybe sm counts for Jiraiya.
4. Yeah he is indeed the creator of rasengan but base rasengan pales in comparison to jutsus like rasenshuriken, odama rasengan, tailed beast bomb, amaterasu, shinra tensai etc.
5. His chakra reserve is quite impressive....
LOL I got complains from the vet apparently some guys named madara and hashirama have been treating the kyuubi like their pets when it should be running wild.
6. Yeah he created the ftg based on fuinjutsu. but what else has he created other than that? Again all we can do is speculate we dont know for sure.

and finally sure Minato was respected and feared as a shinobi but I am not sure if he was the MOST FEARED one in history. I think Madara takes that one from konoha.

Again I don't think Minato will make it to the Top5 of the Narutoverse. So he is not as strong as the top5. had to be careful with my selection of words

He can teleport those listed moves back at the opponent.
He can seal those moves
He can use toads as large attacks, for example Gamabunta's water bullets are as big as the large toads mouth,
As for the top 5, how can Hashirama, Madara and Hiruzen survive this-

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[Lt Iceman]

It was stated to be the Third Shinobi World War not Konoha vs Iwagakure. It was also stated that It was not until the destruction of the Kannabi Bridge that the war began turning in Konoha's favour. Therefore I take it to mean that Minato turned the entire war. Also just because they were the only two fighting does not mean they were the only villages involved.

Point is he didn't solo a war,he had help from his comrades to spread the tags in the battlefield.If that didn't happen the there wold haven't been any shenanigans happening.

I''m just taking accomplishments into context,as usually the Minato fanboys blow sh*t out of proportion.

If he could solo a war then why did Konoha bother making an army,they could have just sent him alone and live all the rest at home eating ramen and playing shoji

Maybe, but the fact remains that he was able to do it, therefore he is OP just like the ones you mentioned.

He's a strong shinobi,nothing more.The guys I mentioned can accomplish what he did better and with no help whatsoever.

And they're far more broken that he is

What Kabuto can do does not make Minato any less of a shinobi. Just because a couple people can do something that Minato can't does not make him inferior.

Never implied that.

It was to show to people how Hype is dependant on the role the character has in the plot.

Kabuto with his edo tensei army has done the best feat in the entire war arc and no one is gonna praise him for that. Why?

Because he isn't the fu**ng father of the main character.

That's the main point I'm try to convey,good people always get the hype while the villains rarely do get to the same extent despite them accomplishing even greater feats.

Doesn't really matter in the world of ninjas. If you can wipe out a score of ninjas in an instant then more power to you.

No shit sherlock,but that wasn't my point.

Are you saying Minato<Itachi because of this? And we really don't know how Itachi did it. For all we know Tobi could have did most of the work and gave Itachi credit.

You clearly lack some reading skills son,where did I compare Minato and Itachi? Where oh where did I do that?

All I said was that a 13 year old Itachi assassinated his clan,he didn't fight a full blown war against all of them.

Comprende?

This to hammer the concept that feats need to be taken into the right context,as it's more reasonable that a teenager assassinated an entire clan rather than overpower them in a full blown conflict.

What did you say? Tell that to SO6P, Madara, Tobi, Hashirama...

No shit sherlock again.

Minato won the fight. The Fox was forcibly taken out of Konoha where he had himself pinned and sealed. Minato chose to seal the nine tails. Therefore Minato wins because he put the fox down. The fact that he chose to die is irrelevant. The Fox was helpless.

Get fu***ng real son.

He died because he was cornered,remove your face from Minato's dakimakura and read the manga the way it's meant to be read.

He was in dire predicament,with only few choices,he simply chose the most proficient way to die.

It's not like he could walk away while the fox is grounding to 0 the village,he was the Kage y'know.Protecting the village is one the main stuff he's gotta do.

If Tobi didn't show up that night then no on would have died period,Minato won the skirmish with Tobi but Tobi won the battle.

Ok so now you admit that it is possible to win against a Tailed Beast?

Kindly don't put words in my mouth,I hate it.

Thanks.

I said the 3rd Raikage fared better than Minato as he fought a bijuu,without even sealing it,and forced a stalemate

Stalemate. I didn't say he won.

And if someone can force a stalemate is not declared to have won,then the less more reason there is to say Minato won,as he effing died in the process

Ok so now you've completely contradicted yourself, you said that it is not possible to fight a Bijuu and win, but then you go on to name ninjas that can.

No contradictions dude,you twist my statements and fabricate stuff to make it look as if I do.

Let me requote myself

Hashirama fought a wild bloodlusted Madara with the fox at his side an not only managed to win,but also control the fox long enough for him to seal it in his wife
Now that's what I can accept as winning against a biju,not what Minato did

Implications of that post we're that I can accept that someone tells me that Hashirama won against a biju at least as he lived to tell the tale,key words accept,but it doesn't mean he actually won.because he basically sealed it/suppressed it.

And the entire point of your post is flawed. You try to claim that Minato isn't top level by naming a couple other OP characters with comparable or better feats.

Your definition of flawed is quite subjective I see.

Never denied he's strong and it would be blind disregard to the manga to say that,but his fanboys always blow shit out of proportion even when competing with fellas he has nothing on.

And all those ninja's I mentioned smoke Minato,feat wise,and by feat I mean sh*t that is useful in battle.

The bottom line is that 99% of characters in Narutoverse can't beat him and/or match him in stats. And that makes him a very good character by almost any standard.

If you say so sir,who am I to awaken you from your sweet dream world of denial.

Very good yes(and never denied that),beyond that nothing more,just fan wank and hypothesis can be done on his case as he can't compete with the power levels of the current folks.

 

[Ultimatevirus]

he might have some sealing techs: aand also he did not get much screen time

 

[Grammar Nazi]

He can teleport those listed moves back at the opponent.
He can seal those moves
He can use toads as large attacks, for example Gamabunta's water bullets are as big as the large toads mouth,
As for the top 5, how can Hashirama, Madara and Hiruzen survive this-

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ohk well I dont think that combo will work on humans. Sealing tailed beasts inside a human is a known process but sealing a human inside a toad is unheard of. Also the toad has to be strong enough to surpass the chakra of whoever is being sealed inside of it. for example Gaara was the only one who was strong enough to surpass to shukakus chakra(the first compatible child). I dont know how the chakra system works on toads. Its impossible to seal someone like Madara whos charkra is even more sinister than the kyuubi's. Only a handful of the toads are skilled in ninjutsu and I don't think they would agree to be the jinchurickis considering the risk...And like I said before I dont think this process is possible at all.

 

[inflame]

The man that we have seen so little off yet hear about in the manga as one off the strongest ever in history ( that's with him not being at his peak )...
The man who had a flee on order sight issued out.........
The man with so little time on the manga ( what was it 1-2 manga's ) yet he was mind blowing.....
The man that injured the untouchable ( TOBI )
The man that teleported a full strangth TBB miles away from the village...
The man that sealed him self to save the village and to transfer the 9 tail's to Naruto.....

That man doesn't really have strong moves like most, however what you fail to realize he is the deadlist off all.... Why???
1) really smart.
2) really fast.
3) expert in finjutsu.
4) really good in ninjutsu.
5) really good in taijutsu.
6) have no idea about the genjutsu lolz

NOW tell me is he really that weak and can't hold his ground against a top notch ninja..... Which by the way made a fool off A and killa Bee

 

[~Uzumaki~]

ohk well I dont think that combo will work on humans. Sealing tailed beasts inside a human is a known process but sealing a human inside a toad is unheard of. Also the toad has to be strong enough to surpass the chakra of whoever is being sealed inside of it. for example Gaara was the only one who was strong enough to surpass to shukakus chakra(the first compatible child). I dont know how the chakra system works on toads. Its impossible to seal someone like Madara whos charkra is even more sinister than the kyuubi's. Only a handful of the toads are skilled in ninjutsu and I don't think they would agree to be the jinchurickis considering the risk...And like I said before I dont think this process is possible at all.

According to Databook Eight Trigrams seal consist of two Four Symbol Seals and Four Symbols Seal is used to seal objects into objects and living things Toads are living things, right?

 

[Blaze Release]

How this thread is still going, ive no idea. I mean dont people get bored of discussing the past. He died even before the manga started and yet there is always a thread about him, either a fanboy thread, a vs thread or a hate thread. I know he is the main characters father and will get attention, but this has gotten extremely boring, any minato related thread. I like to think about current affairs and what is happening atm in the manga

 

[Grammar Nazi]

According to Databook Eight Trigrams seal consist of two Four Symbol Seals and Four Symbols Seal is used to seal objects into objects and living things Toads are living things, right?

still there aint no toad strong enough to surpass the chakra of naruto and the kyuubi.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

still there aint no toad strong enough to surpass the chakra of naruto and the kyuubi.

So 15 minutes old baby Naruto can take Kyubi but toads can't take humans. Wow.

 

[cozolinofly]

Konohamaru can beat Ebisu because he can use rasengan and we have no prove Ebisu knows any jutsu <FACTS... this is how your theory about minato works .. we NEVER saw minato fighting at full power againts someone powerfull so don't judge until you saw everything from him ..

 

[Grammar Nazi]

So 15 minutes old baby Naruto can take Kyubi but toads can't take humans. Wow.

Naruto definitely has special kind of chakra, remember what I said about Gaara being the only one compatible. Imo the strength of your chakra is determined before your birth(e.g. Kushina was born with strong chakra). You just can't seal a biiju inside anyone. And do you remember how the toad sage was intimidated by the kyuubi chakra when he tried merging with naruto. I really don't think frogs have strong chakra that can hold off a biiju or humans like madara or sasuke who posses chakra even more sinister than biijus. These are all logical points think about it for a sec.

 

[Grammar Nazi]

Konohamaru can beat Ebisu because he can use rasengan and we have no prove Ebisu knows any jutsu <FACTS... this is how your theory about minato works .. we NEVER saw minato fighting at full power againts someone powerfull so don't judge until you saw everything from him ..

I wouldn't be surprised if he actually beats Ebisu.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Naruto definitely has special kind of chakra, remember what I said about Gaara being the only one compatible. Imo the strength of your chakra is determined before your birth. You just can't seal a biiju inside anyone. And do you remember how the toad sage was intimidated by the kyuubi chakra when he tried merging with naruto. I really don't think frogs have strong chakra that can hold off a biiju or humans like madara or sasuke who posses chakra even more sinister than biijus. These are all logical points think about it for a sec.

A teapot could hold the one tail but Toads can't hold humans?

 

[Grammar Nazi]

A teapot could hold the one tail but Toads can't hold humans?

then how come kankuro and temari was not considered strong enough to contain the shukaku? chiyo herself said they weren't strong enough. Maybe that teapot was one of the spirit items. Plus imo sealing something inside a teapot is a different mechanism. You wont be able to utilise the power of the spirit that has been sealed inside the teapot. That is why the sand had to transfer the shukaku inside a junchiricki.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

then how come kankuro and temari was not considered strong enough to contain the shukaku? chiyo herself said they weren't strong enough. Maybe that teapot was one of the spirit items. Plus imo sealing something inside a teapot is a different mechanism. You wont be able to utilise the power of the spirit that has been sealed inside the teapot. That is why the sand had to transfer the shukaku inside a junchiricki.

The word was compatible, he is compatible with the one tails, he can work well with the one tails, the goal is contain and control not just contain, anyways if you're so adamant about this there's another option- he can seal them into an object like his kunai, since the description for Four Symbols seal is seal into objects and living beings. The end, he beats Madara Hashirama and Hiruzen.
Or better still, he can seal them into himself. Then get Mokuton from Hashi, Powerful chakra from Madara, and maybe converse with Hiruzen and learn his vast array of techniques.

 

[Grammar Nazi]

The word was compatible, he is compatible with the one tails, he can work well with the one tails, the goal is contain and control not just contain, anyways if you're so adamant about this there's another option- he can seal them into an object like his kunai, since the description for Four Symbols seal is seal into objects and living beings. The end, he beats Madara Hashirama and Hiruzen.

LOL and when they finally come out of their objects, they will have to grant 3 wishes of the person who lets em out xd


screw kunai, seal em into magic lamps! xd

 

[~Uzumaki~]

oh dear not this shit again.

show me scans of him sealing a person into a kunai. you are just doing what you do bets uzumaki and that is spectulation, you have a reputation of being an idiot round here because of it.

*sigh* this is between you and Kishi's databook, not me.