t's offical, Kakashi and Gai have surpassed the sannin

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They surpassed tsunade before the war even began they were holding their own against multiple v2 jins and beat the swordsman etc. I think it's kind of obvious.
Jiraiya is probably on their level but orochimaru got embarassed by a old man
and tsunade is just crap
No, Tsunade would solo Gai.
Kakashi would easily lose to Jiraiya.
Oro isn't even needed to take these guys out.
Infact Tsunade might be able to Solo kakashi. If you guys really want I can provide reasons. Just ask.
Edit: Tsunade's chakra reserves are huge. So if she enters Byakougou she doesn't need to see him he's going to try to Hirudora her... and she's gonna be back up and he's gonna go wtf? then try morning peacock. She'll get back up and he's going to be screwed.

Kakashi's signature moves include Raikiri and Kamui. He has not been shown using Kamui expertly yet. But we know that three uses of kamui = dead Kakashi and 4 raikiri = dead kakashi. Which means Kamui is a last resort for Kakashi. He has shown good trap setting skills with is lightening clones. Such as when he tricked one of pein's paths. He was capable of dodging Sakura though that isn't a very large feat as she didn't use and kicks or major ground strikes. He can ready movements with his sharigan but that takes an extra toll on him not being an uchiha. He carries no long weapons. Kakashi does have long range attacks via water dragon jutsu and his lightening hounds.

Tsunade strength is unparalleled. Kakashi wasn't much more dodgy than Kabuto and Kabuto took a blood pill to aid him in the battle because Tsunade had cornered him. Orochimaru was able to keep up with 4 tails Naruto but after three hits from Tsunade called it quits iirc. In addition she has her chakra scapels, Katsuya, her disruption technique, her healing techniques, huge chakra reserves and the ability to alter the batttlefield with pure strength. I think we are underrating Tsunade's intelligence here. She's brilliant really, even beyond her medical field. Take the war with Pein for instance, she strategically sent Naruto away to get stronger rather than following the advice the advisers, rather than taking pein head on, she healed the entire village, she had Katsuya everywhere that way everyone could gain more info on Pein instantly. In the fight with Madara she devised an attack on Madara so that the other kages could attack him while he responded to her attack. When she was fighting kabuto and her lungs were messed up she pseudoparalyzed him so that she could heal. As per her rules for Medical Ninja she understands the strategies necessary to keep a team alive. She tricked Jiraiya into drinking a substance and played it off perfectly. In short she's not going to stand around and allow any attack. She's going to strategize.
So let's recap. Kakashi uses Lightening blade his hand is trapped in her and she kills him with a punch
Kakashi uses Kamui he may get her but she is a fairly small target that moves in very odd ways.
Kakashi summons ninja dogs... either she kills them or she summons katsuya
Kakashi uses lightening beast runner technique she dodges like she was with kabuto's attacks
kakashi uses lightening cutter he has to get close do so and when he does the technique requires both him and his clone if either is destroyed the technique is over aswell
Kakashi has done basic level genjutsu however people who have precise control over their chakra can stop their chakra and end the genjutsu. In addition to fact that she was able to easily undue to the damage done by Itachi's tsukyomi.
Kakashi's water dragon jutsu may give her some problems but for how long can he hold her off at a long distance. He doesn't combine his attacks so I doubt a water dragon kamui combo is going to happen nor is a lightening beast kamui combo .
Based upon the ease of which she is able to treat sharingan related injuries and she lived during the time in which the Uchiha had their power she is most likely fully informed on the sharingan's power. I am also certaint her grandfather and granduncle would have warned her of the dangers.
Kakashi also does not stray away from taijutsu fights which is to is his detriment. You might say that he knows of Tsunade's strength, true, but he also knew of Sakura's and still went toe to toe with her. Beyond that the only ones who know of Creation Rebirth are Kabuto, Naruto and Shizune. Everyone else is dead or weren't there. And only the four other kage and possibly Kabuto know about Byakougou. Furthermore only Kabuto knows about her body pathway derangement technique.
So against Body Derangement Jutsu Kakashi has nothing
Against Heavenly Kick of Pain he can only dodge
Against her punches he can only dodge
Against Creation Rebirth or Byakougou he has to land Kamui on her head.
Against chakra scapels he has nothing
Against Katsuya who can crush him or melt him he has nothing
You don't blitz Tsunade. Kabuto tried from underground. Raikiri is extremely loud if you remember correctly so he won't sneak up on her with that. She won't fall for headhunter jutsu. And When Tsunade is out for your blood I think we've seen that she stays in constant motion. In addition Kakashi has no idea how durable she is she tanked the Heavenly Transfeer Technique, the Susanoo Sword, the Sowrd of Kusanagi thrice, Yasaka Magatama.
Very Simply Kakashi can't take her on. His one ace in the whole is using Kamui against Tsunade when she doesn't stand still and she fights in awkward positions.
 
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Did you see how Nagato pissed on Kakashi in the Konoha attack? Jiraiya-sama would win but Gai may be a challenge. Oro is really strong but Tsunade is worthless
 
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No, Tsunade would solo Gai.
Kakashi would easily lose to Jiraiya.
Oro isn't even needed to take these guys out.
Infact Tsunade might be able to Solo kakashi. If you guys really want I can provide reasons. Just ask.
Edit: Tsunade's chakra reserves are huge. So if she enters Byakougou she doesn't need to see him he's going to try to Hirudora her... and she's gonna be back up and he's gonna go wtf? then try morning peacock. She'll get back up and he's going to be screwed.

Kakashi's signature moves include Raikiri and Kamui. He has not been shown using Kamui expertly yet. But we know that three uses of kamui = dead Kakashi and 4 raikiri = dead kakashi. Which means Kamui is a last resort for Kakashi. He has shown good trap setting skills with is lightening clones. Such as when he tricked one of pein's paths. He was capable of dodging Sakura though that isn't a very large feat as she didn't use and kicks or major ground strikes. He can ready movements with his sharigan but that takes an extra toll on him not being an uchiha. He carries no long weapons. Kakashi does have long range attacks via water dragon jutsu and his lightening hounds.

Tsunade strength is unparalleled. Kakashi wasn't much more dodgy than Kabuto and Kabuto took a blood pill to aid him in the battle because Tsunade had cornered him. Orochimaru was able to keep up with 4 tails Naruto but after three hits from Tsunade called it quits iirc. In addition she has her chakra scapels, Katsuya, her disruption technique, her healing techniques, huge chakra reserves and the ability to alter the batttlefield with pure strength. I think we are underrating Tsunade's intelligence here. She's brilliant really, even beyond her medical field. Take the war with Pein for instance, she strategically sent Naruto away to get stronger rather than following the advice the advisers, rather than taking pein head on, she healed the entire village, she had Katsuya everywhere that way everyone could gain more info on Pein instantly. In the fight with Madara she devised an attack on Madara so that the other kages could attack him while he responded to her attack. When she was fighting kabuto and her lungs were messed up she pseudoparalyzed him so that she could heal. As per her rules for Medical Ninja she understands the strategies necessary to keep a team alive. She tricked Jiraiya into drinking a substance and played it off perfectly. In short she's not going to stand around and allow any attack. She's going to strategize.
So let's recap. Kakashi uses Lightening blade his hand is trapped in her and she kills him with a punch
Kakashi uses Kamui he may get her but she is a fairly small target that moves in very odd ways.
Kakashi summons ninja dogs... either she kills them or she summons katsuya
Kakashi uses lightening beast runner technique she dodges like she was with kabuto's attacks
kakashi uses lightening cutter he has to get close do so and when he does the technique requires both him and his clone if either is destroyed the technique is over aswell
Kakashi has done basic level genjutsu however people who have precise control over their chakra can stop their chakra and end the genjutsu. In addition to fact that she was able to easily undue to the damage done by Itachi's tsukyomi.
Kakashi's water dragon jutsu may give her some problems but for how long can he hold her off at a long distance. He doesn't combine his attacks so I doubt a water dragon kamui combo is going to happen nor is a lightening beast kamui combo .
Based upon the ease of which she is able to treat sharingan related injuries and she lived during the time in which the Uchiha had their power she is most likely fully informed on the sharingan's power. I am also certaint her grandfather and granduncle would have warned her of the dangers.
Kakashi also does not stray away from taijutsu fights which is to is his detriment. You might say that he knows of Tsunade's strength, true, but he also knew of Sakura's and still went toe to toe with her. Beyond that the only ones who know of Creation Rebirth are Kabuto, Naruto and Shizune. Everyone else is dead or weren't there. And only the four other kage and possibly Kabuto know about Byakougou. Furthermore only Kabuto knows about her body pathway derangement technique.
So against Body Derangement Jutsu Kakashi has nothing
Against Heavenly Kick of Pain he can only dodge
Against her punches he can only dodge
Against Creation Rebirth or Byakougou he has to land Kamui on her head.
Against chakra scapels he has nothing
Against Katsuya who can crush him or melt him he has nothing
You don't blitz Tsunade. Kabuto tried from underground. Raikiri is extremely loud if you remember correctly so he won't sneak up on her with that. She won't fall for headhunter jutsu. And When Tsunade is out for your blood I think we've seen that she stays in constant motion. In addition Kakashi has no idea how durable she is she tanked the Heavenly Transfeer Technique, the Susanoo Sword, the Sowrd of Kusanagi thrice, Yasaka Magatama.
Very Simply Kakashi can't take her on. His one ace in the whole is using Kamui against Tsunade when she doesn't stand still and she fights in awkward positions.
I totally agree with this guy, most of you won't even read it but you should
 

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Most of you don't even read the manga, apparently.

Orochimaru is possibly the strongest villain in the show. He was killed after taking on the strongest of leaf Shinobi, two sharingan users, a four tailed fox, etc. Losing only to one of the strongest ninja in posession of the most powerful legendary sword.

The sanin are RAPE. Jiraiya would eat Kakashi and Gai up. Considering he trained kakashis teacher (the fourth no less)
 

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They surpassed tsunade before the war even began they were holding their own against multiple v2 jins and beat the swordsman etc. I think it's kind of obvious.
Jiraiya is probably on their level but orochimaru got embarassed by a old man
and tsunade is just crap
J-man is incredibly fast and strong but has become weak due to his immensely old age. Still he was good with the fight with pain. If J-man would be aware of Nagato's abilities then may have defeated him.Also J-man was in pain's territory.He didn't use all of his summonings.When naruto fought pain j-man was still stronger but naruto's true will(to never give up),his knowledge of pain's abilities and a little help of jinchuriki made him win.

Orichimaru is very strong but after J-Man.

Tsunade used her ultimate technique and has become so strong that she penetrated Edo Madara's susano.

Next thing i will see is you will say Kakashi and Gai can take on Edo Madara.
 

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But tazz is wrong about raikiri. Kakashi uses is silently to kill people all the time like with hidan/kakuzu
The same way Naruto silently killed Kakuzu with that extremely loud fuuton rasen shuriken. Justus like frs and raikiri we know to be loud. Plot no jutsu however forces enemies to ignore the sounds and lose. Similar to how it was shown rasengan was a slow technique when he first used it. But then no one could avoid being hit by the rasengan.
 

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Kakashi said Orochi would thrash him and Oro was better then Jariya. He took him and sluggie on single handed. But I agree, with their current power. Kakashi and Gai would thrash the Sannin. But be forced to use the Mangekyo and 8 gates,
 

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IMO Kakashi is below the level of the Sannin in general but has one hax move (Kamui) that can virtually beat almost any defense. Gai's real strength comes from the Gates, as using base taijutsu would surely not get him anywhere against the higher up ninja like the Sannin. Gai has to rely on using his gates the best he can before running out of juice. I feel that that they're weaker in general, but have double-edged swords that can make them compete with stronger ninja.
 

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Kakashi said Orochi would thrash him and Oro was better then Jariya. He took him and sluggie on single handed. But I agree, with their current power. Kakashi and Gai would thrash the Sannin. But be forced to use the Mangekyo and 8 gates,
I wouldn't say took on is a good word for it. Tsunade literally punched him once and it was done. Jiraiya only actually used Nizo Jizo against him with 30% power. And of course he had no hands. And He never actually dodged Tsunade...ever. And he had kabuto to help him. Which by the way kabuto only dodged once. And she only attacked him 5 times and the fifth time she got paralyzed by her fear of blood.

I think everyone watched the anime in early naruto days and thus they underrate characters from there. That said Oro was powerful but he always fought with a handy cap. Well post hiruzen fight anyway...
 
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So Kakashi and Gai can stand a chance against about...7 Jinchuruki (Naruto was fighting Son and Bee was kind of helping)
Personally I feel like Kakashi is hiding a sage mode, and Gai is hiding a sealed gate. There can't be 8 gates, I mean there are 9 Tailed Beasts, 9 Chakura fires in the Kage's necklaces (i think) 9 chakura fires on naruto's stomach. There is a 9 everything...
 
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