Nagato Overrated!! 1 vs 1

[Mercury Uzumaki]

among the character u mentioned only naruto can take on him

Wow well Naruto did already I guess. But thats all? Not Kabuto with his 30 Edo's or Tobi with his bijuu's? I thought everyone would at least agree on those 2 but hey. we've seen a portion of Hashi's power and from the little i've seen I think know he can take Nagato. Keep in mind Hashi also tamed tailed beast he just woud'nt use them for his own needs like Madara did. i don't want to explain how everyone could win seeing as though i have a couple times but i can't agree you 100% Naruto can take him but there are also a few others.

 

[6PathsofKami]

..or he couldn't and you are just looking for excuses.

Why couldnt he? We saw him do it against naruto, B and itachi. Nothing changed since his death and when he was ressurected. Next you'l say its kabutos jutsu that allowed him to do it.

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

Hm, what? Didn't you see that I quoted him, not you? What I just said was basicly in your favour. Saying that Nagato didn't fix his body just because of the plot or because Kishi didn't think of that possibility is just a lame excuse. He obviously couldn't fix his body, otherwise he would've done so.

OH my bad!! I'll edit that message. Again my bad

How can you say Nagato is overrated He is a extremely powerful ninja and he was one of the big antagonist of the show he wiped out the entire hidden leaf with one move. he could beat mostly everyone In naruto

I do agree with you he wiped out a lot of Fodder ninja's none on the level of anyone on the top 10 list. And building don't fight back. If you read my statements you would see im just saying people are rating him to high in the top 10 but he is top 10 nontheless. Since Nagato we've had stronger Atagonist emmerge, or they were always there just got new power ups making them pass him.And Naruto & Sasuke also have new power ups in which they serpassed Nagato, though with help Naruto already beat Nagato.

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And i see this is thepoint of the thread maker that overrating nagato in this base is extreme
Tobi-why he need the tailed beasts?he ahs rinnegan,and sharingan while nagato has only rinnegan are u out of ur fuking mind?how can u speak use ur logic or u cant, rinnegan=rinnegan is not that his eyes are some fuking special eyes are the same rinnegan of toi and rinnegan of nagato are same + tobi got the sharingan so STFU ANG GTFO!use logic please.
Madara-i agrre he could make nagato his b1tch with rinnegan and EMS
Naruto-u saw the latest manga or again cant use logic well u want facts here u have:
this is the power that could wipe out 5 tailed beast bombs(TBB):

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this tech is wayyyyy stronger then shinra tensei that was able to push all 5 tailed beasts on the same time while the shinra tensei deva path used was blocked by 2nd version naruto 6 tailed beast form....
oh and why i take it so long??1TBB on BM mode and nagato doesnt exist anymore at this planet look at the power of the tbb:

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he will absord it? xd he will push it ith shinra tensei...so ironic.so naruto BM>>>>>>>>>Nagato(healthy)
Sasuke-who knows....
Bee-still im ? here since idk if nagato can take on the 8 tails form hachibi...
Hashirama-o,o back there u said madara yes and hashirama no?are u serious this dude was considered a fairy tale just like the SO6P,was able to take on the madara u said yes and the strongest tailed beast kyuubi and if u still think that nagato wins i can say....gratz for ur stupidity!
A-i agree
Itachi-just cuz this dude goes blind by over using the MS since if he could have EMS that would be a ?.
Minato-i agree.

I like your points.

 

[FloriGlori]

Why couldnt he? We saw him do it against naruto, B and itachi. Nothing changed since his death and when he was ressurected. Next you'l say its kabutos jutsu that allowed him to do it.

Oh my, we have a little clairvoyant between us. Not.

What changed was that he was no longer bound to his wheelchair-machine, that he had the luck to meet Hachibi's Jinchuuriki and that he was no longer bound to Tobi's rules. The strong Chakra from Hachibi is what 'healed' him. Kyuubi's Chakra even turned Zetsu to trees again due to its strong life-energy. When he was alive he didn't have the chance to face a Bijuu/Jinchuuriki in order to absorb its Chakra; and even if he had, doing so would've caused trouble with Tobi, who obviously wants every slight bit of the Bijuu's Chakra for himself or rather Gedo Mazo. He even gave it the tiny bit of Kyuubi Chakra that was inside Ginkaku and Kinkaku.

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

How do u suppose Sasuke will take out the 6 pains
Kabuto & which edos Name them
Raikage are u ****kkking Kidding me:sy:

I took Raikage and Bee out of the loop, although Bee may have a chance not A though anyways. I think it's you who are underestimating Sasuke at this point. EMS Sasuke shot 11 Ameratsu's at 1 time , remember none of Nagato's paths or himself have great speed they would not be able to dodge Ameratsu. We've only seen a couple shinobi that are that fast and Nagato isn't one of them. Also keep in mind Sasuke wasn't even exausted (AT ALL). I think its you who needs to argue how Nagato's paths or Nagato could withstand or dodge Ameratsu. Kabuto has 30 Edo's I dont need to name them you read the manga just like I do. To be honest i dont think he would even need 30 to handle Nagato.

 

[6PathsofKami]

Oh my, we have a little clairvoyant between us. Not.

What changed was that he was no longer bound to his wheelchair-machine, that he had the luck to meet Hachibi's Jinchuuriki and that he was no longer bound to Tobi's rules. The strong Chakra from Hachibi is what 'healed' him. Kyuubi's Chakra even turned Zetsu to trees again due to its strong life-energy. When he was alive he didn't have the chance to face a Bijuu/Jinchuuriki in order to absorb its Chakra; and even if he had, doing so would've caused trouble with Tobi, who obviously wants every slight bit of Bijuu Chakra for Gedo Mazo. He even gave it the tiny bit of Kyuubi Chakra that was inside Ginkaku and Kinkaku.

Thats exactly what im trying to say, if he could do it when he got ressurected then he could have done it while he was alive but like you said he couldnt because of tobi. All im trying to say is that he did have the ability to do it while he was alive

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

Your such a fool it took Naruto Killer Bee and Itachi to take Nagato down and Nagato let Itachi seal him!!

No im not a fool at all. for the 40th time in this thread that was Edo Nagato..
Please read my old comments and this will be explained to you. I know I wrote
a lot but i touched on this like 4-5 times.

Bold- You sir are deluded if you think Nagato merely is a top 10. :sy:

I think you are Deluded because you think he is top 5. Or maybe biased. Also Deluded is saying he's top 20 not top 10. Realistically I could say he's 6th would that be deluded 1 spot down?? You see my point? Although i dont think he's 6th I believe Sasuke would take that spot. Itachi and Nagato are almost neck and neck maybe they share the 7th spot. Even when you look at the tempo of the anime Kishi killed off Itachi and Nagato about the same time. I believe he did that for a reason, to make room for stronger atagonist Tobi, Kabuto....Sasuke <------Not all bad yet.

Fuzzy Sorry for not responding to your msg please try not to be upset i'll look through the thread find it and respond.

Hmm......................... I did repond to you. I see now you came back and bashed the thread a couple time. Don't mean to piss you off man this is just my opinion and there are a few others that agree at the same time. Im sorry if you don't agree but thats koo we should be able to have different opinions.I also braught up a lot of points not just the the fact that Nagato wasn't to mobile. I actually went as far as to explain how each character could win i'll find the message and repost it. Maybe it'll change your mind a little maybe not. Nagato is Still a beast I think he was a great character and very powerful. When it came down to it its Nagato /Naruto that were the children of prophecy.

I know how you feel i typed that message on my phone and that was annoying .

1)I do not dispute the fact Naruto did have a bit of help in this fight your right about that it is what it is.

2) even Nagato runs out of Chackra as we saw he almost did in the fight against Naruto. Not saying his Deva path can't absorb because it can but the user would still need chakra to use it.Nagato needs to be worn down his techiques do take a hefty amount of chackra. This would give Itachi and Sasuke a problem if they could not finish the fight off quickly. I believe Nagato carried a bit of arragance deaming himself the god of shinobi, that be used against him as we also saw in the Naruto fight a bit.

3) His shared vision is very formidable, and makes this fight much more dificult I also agree with you there. we have to take in Naruto, Minato's speed as well as Hashi Mokuton. When used cleverly enough though still not easy the Paths can be isolated. Naruto started to figure out how to outsmart Nagato by using decoy attacks and smoke bombs, kinda like the fight with Neji. Minato and Hashi were both much smarter and battle hardened than Naruto. Imagine hashi put up a barrier then takes out 1 path under the barrier, this could be possible. I had stated earlier his barrier is one of the best defense we've seen in the anime took a TBB from 9 tails no problem. This does not even take that much thought process and is very plausible.

4) Minato would have trouble with this fight because he does have a lot of chakra bt no were close to Nagato. Minato would have to rely very heavily on FTG and i also think S/T jutsu to win squeeze this one out. He could isolate the paths with his S/T then take them one on one. the shared vision would not help here because no other path would know where his kunai is set.
This would be a very difficult fight for Minato , one he may not win if they were to fight 5 out of 5 times in my opinion, but I woudn't doubt his genius nore his mighty techs.(that we've seen).

5)I think the fight would be easier for Sasuke than you think. Hard to say how easy because we need to no how long his chakra can last. But if 1 path or summon gets hits with Ameterasu there done for. He shot 11 at 1 time and di not seem like his chakra was strained at all. Ameterasu is a relatively fast jutsu's not like rasen shuriken where he's looking it attcks. Without rediculous speed wich none of the paths or Nagato himseld have, would be almost like a sitting duck.

6)I dont think you read a lot of my rebutles from earlier I tried myself dont think A or B can beat Nagato so we 100% agree here.

7)if its face to face Kabuto loses a at a distance he's the most dangerous person on the list with the Impure Resurrection.

8)Tobi with all the Bijuuu isn't even a fair fight. His paths are much stronger than Nagato's and much quicker also with shared vision. It was hard for Naruto in BM and Bee to land an attack whick is one of the huge differeces from Nagato's paths and tobi's. Not to mention his s/t jutsu. I dont think that fight would even last till Nagato ran out of chakra. Nagato listened to tobi for he got the rinnegan which emplies to me he had somewhat of a fear/respect for him. After he gets the rinnegan he's in a whole nother league.

Hope you enjoy and you had some great points.

This.

 

[FloriGlori]

Thats exactly what im trying to say, if he could do it when he got ressurected then he could have done it while he was alive but like you said he couldnt because of tobi. All im trying to say is that he did have the ability to do it while he was alive

Apart from that he stall had all those stakes in his back. I also doubt that he was aware of that possibility. Who would've thought that he would be healed by absorbing strong Chakra comparable to that of Hachibi? All in all, no, he wouldn't have been able to it while he was alive.

 

[ThEpRoMiSeDlAnD]

Im not sure If you and everyone else remembers but he absorbed Naruto's chakra in the 1st fight............What happened?...........I dont remeber him getting a pefect body. Your whole argument is flawed. Ounce again Edo Nagato falls under Kabuto's power not Nagato's, i mean the guy was already dead not like DBZ where you can go train after you die keep this in mind. Overwhelmed?? again im sorry but not true I dont think a lot of people get the point of my SM naruto argument. Fact is EVERYONE on my list is much more dangerous than naruto in SM and have Jutsu's to back it up. The fact that SM Naruto gave nagato all the toble he did was the whole point.Even in BM he was not as powerful as Minato nore have the thought process of his father or Itachi. Hashi hands down would win this as well as Madara he also had rinnegan + Sharingan when he was alive. Nagato is not fast enough to dodge Sasuke amaterasu especially when he can fire 11 at 1 time .

This was my first post before I read further back in the thread, which is why I made the second post that you mostly agreed with.

Pertaining to pain absorbing Narutos chakra during there first fight, it was not negato himself it was one of his paths which for the most part was already health (despite being a corps) and he absobed sage chakra which unless you can control will turn you into a frog statue. Peins goal like everyone keeps statig was to capture naruto alive never to kill him. Deva and 6 tails are almost equal I. Power and speed they fought each other one on one and althoough deva acknowledged Narutos speed he was still able to keep up with and even out run him.

I don't care who the person is (besides Madara and hashi) fight 6 high level shinobi is a problem. Especially when you have no info what do ever on how there powers and field of vision work, that's why A Bee Sasuke and Minato would lose.

 

[Nadruto]

I think Nagato is amongst the top 5 characters we've seen this far in the series. But I don't think he is number one, f.i I believe both Hashirama and Naruto to be stronger.

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

Apart from that he stall had all those stakes in his back. I also doubt that he was aware of that possibility. Who would've thought that he would be healed by absorbing strong Chakra comparable to that of Hachibi? All in all, no, he wouldn't have been able to it while he was alive.

I like your point it makes sense.

This was my first post before I read further back in the thread, which is why I made the second post that you mostly agreed with.

Pertaining to pain absorbing Narutos chakra during there first fight, it was not negato himself it was one of his paths which for the most part was already health (despite being a corps) and he absobed sage chakra which unless you can control will turn you into a frog statue. Peins goal like everyone keeps statig was to capture naruto alive never to kill him. Deva and 6 tails are almost equal I. Power and speed they fought each other one on one and althoough deva acknowledged Narutos speed he was still able to keep up with and even out run him.

I don't care who the person is (besides Madara and hashi) fight 6 high level shinobi is a problem. Especially when you have no info what do ever on how there powers and field of vision work, that's why A Bee Sasuke and Minato would lose.

Good points

 

[ThEpRoMiSeDlAnD]

I thought that was Edo Nagato?? I could be wrong but maybe were not watching the same anime. Or reading the same Manga

Just he was an endo doesnt mean kabuto enhanced him he has the same abilities he had before he died the only endo that was modified was Madara everyone else was kept exactly the same. Thats like saying Itachi cant use Magatama if he was endo since he never used it before that fight. We are reading the same manga. Yes he may have gotten a boost due to bees chakra but it was his own ability that took the chakra. It was even stated that when he used the paths in one body they were significantly stronger than when he was alive.

 

[ThEpRoMiSeDlAnD]

Good points

You are much more reasonable than some of the people on this site lol. You acknowledge when good points are made even when they are against your argument like a mature person. This is how debates are done.

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

I think Nagato is amongst the top 5 characters we've seen this far in the series. But I don't think he is number one, f.i I believe both Hashirama and Naruto to be stronger.

I wish we could see more story behind Hashi, Madara , and Minato. These were 3 great shinobi and wold help clear up the top 5. Hopefully Keshi gives us more of a glimse into there past but I doubt it. Seems more like he's focused on all the current events.

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

You are much more reasonable than some of the people on this site lol. You acknowledge when good points are made even when they are against your argument like a mature person. This is how debates are done.

Thank You and again agree lol

 

[Cpt Long Schlong]

You do not acknowledge points. You do not consider everything. You have also ignored a lot of points I have made. Nagato is top 5, and most, if not all arguments you have put forward are ridiculous. You are horribly underestimating Nagato.

 

[Jayaraman MinatoItachi]

I think Nagato is amongst the top 5 characters we've seen this far in the series. But I don't think he is number one, f.i I believe both Hashirama and Naruto to be stronger.

If naruto is stronger than nagato then obviously sasuke is also stronger than him. I think

Hasirama
madara
naruto
tobi
sasuke

are stronger than him. Seroiusly nagato deserves sixth place ignoring sage of six paths. Even with all Intel Jman can't defeat nagato or atleast all of six paths in same time.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

I think you are Deluded because you think he is top 5. Or maybe biased. Also Deluded is saying he's top 20 not top 10. Realistically I could say he's 6th would that be deluded 1 spot down?? You see my point? Although i dont think he's 6th I believe Sasuke would take that spot. Itachi and Nagato are almost neck and neck maybe they share the 7th spot. Even when you look at the tempo of the anime Kishi killed off Itachi and Nagato about the same time. I believe he did that for a reason, to make room for stronger atagonist Tobi, Kabuto....Sasuke <------Not all bad yet.

Your tone made it perfectly clear that you think Nagato barely scrapes the top 10 hence why I think you are deluded. And I still believe that you are deluded because of your comments such as "Itachi and Nagato are neck and neck" U_U

If you are one of those people who believe everything that happens in the manga as fact and doesnt have the awareness of plot-no jutsu then you are naive mate. For instance there are numerous times in the series where Naruto could've easily died but he is still standing alive because he is the main character with plot-shield on.

And no I'm not biased as I'm aware that few people could beat Nagato.

 

[Retsu]

off topic but how can hashirama beat Nagato? Mokuton has a very high chance of being absorbed by the preta path, and if the 1st doesnt have Mokuton, he's not beating anybody

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

You do not acknowledge points. You do not consider everything. You have also ignored a lot of points I have made. Nagato is top 5, and most, if not all arguments you have put forward are ridiculous. You are horribly underestimating Nagato.

I've tried to adress all arguments I went back and checked out your and thought I adressed them if I didn't i Apoligize.I think he's close to top 5 but not quite there. I dont think I ignored to many points , I have pages of comments just respondint to others points.I also believe my arguments are very valid and make sense.

How would you rank these shinobi's?

Tobi
Kabuto
Naruto
Sasuke
Hashirama
Madara
Nagato

I want to see your List. and do you agree these are the top 7? I havn't seen enough from a couple other character to add them in like Hirizun in his prime although im sure he was powerful and some of the other Kages.