i just dont really know it. What I know is Nagato is great. However, great doesnt mean cant be beaten.
man has prime time, just like a curve. once one raised and reached the culmination, the decreasing path would soon facing.
sky is high but above the sky, there are skies (an indonesian proverb said like that).
Tobi? Yes(only if he has the tailed beasts though)
Kabuto? Yes, only through edo tensei though
Madara? Yes
Naruto? No
Sasuke? No
Bee? No
Hashirama? No
A? Hell no
Itachi? Hell no
Minato? Hell no
Are you serious? First Naruto alone in his current form would have no problems with Nagato when he fought the Pains in SM he was no where near where he is now in BM he even has Tobi second guessing his self and lets not forget when they all fought (Naruto, Bee, Itachi, Nagato) at the beginning of the war Naruto still wasn't as strong as he currently is in the manga also Tobi couldn't phase through Naruto when they clashed so you can't be sure what effect curtain techniques will have on him at full strength in BM mode
With all his edo's ok we could put kabuto in there but in a 1 vs 1 like the thread says...NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO lol kabuto cant fight, but tobi yea we could put him in there but if he did win it be with suuuuuuuuuper difficulty
no no u are wrong those are his summons similar to how nagato uses his summons such as the bird and all that. Also summons like naruto's and edo tensei is part of his power so its still a 1v1. also like pain(6ppl) is under nagato's command
lets be serious itachi can beat pein, he'd seal his ass pain can't absorb that case closed.......madara would kill pain, maybe tobi, kabuto,... sasuke and naruto can beat him as well..
Your argument that SM Naruto beat Nagato is severely flawed, you really aren't accounting for all of the handicaps that Naruto was given for that fight.
1.) Deva Path had no power right after Naruto arrived.
2.) Naruto had information on every paths ability thanks to the village and Tsunade's summons
3.) Pain was trying to capture Naruto alive
4.) Naruto had all of the frogs there and had preparation SM clones waiting to be reverse summoned.
5.) Naruto could of easily have been killed any moment he was pinned down by Deva.
The only ones IMO that would likely beat Nagato are Edo Madara, Tobi with Jinnchuriki paths and Kabuto with Edo summons. Hashirama is debatable although he was supposedly extremely strong, Nagato has many counters to his techniques. The only other person who MIGHT beat Nagato is Naruto in BM mode so honestly I think Nagato is either 4th or 5th strongest in the series atm.
Sry i took so long now the debate can begin. Im not going to say your wrong because to an exstint your right. Nagato does have a lot of counteds but so does anyone else on the top 10 list. What your saying is Nagato jutsu's are stronger thab haklf the people on my list and im sorry but that i dknt believe. Im not sure if u read my arguments earlier bit ill try to reinerrate quickly.
Naruto first. Nagato paths or nagato cannot take on a rasengan shiriken that hits them. This is proven by the paths by what was that sm naruto who in comparison to what he os.now is pretty weak. Nagato has not goyen any stronger since he died. Again died. You can call it part of thebplot you can cal it the biggest part of naruto's abilities his ability to persuade other and get them to follow him. Ive seen a couple statements that says Naruto did notbwin that fight. Now i care if you are in denial or not in a fight if you give up you lose. Something else needs to be understood because i saw someone else say nagato could have killed naruto at the time. Im sorry but i dont believe he cold have , he had enouhh chakra for 1 more tech, that does not mean he could have killed naruto who remember has the body of thd so6p extreamly durable. Naruto takes attacks that would topple any other shinobi easily and heals. Nagato also being very resiliant himself barely jad life in him he was already caughing up blood and straining himself using the all the previous jutsus.
Nagato is a monster but so is everyone else on tbe top 10. For him to have so much troble with naruto in sagemode states a lot when we have seen characters rise to feat higher than ever. Now naruto has the speed of Minato and the raw power of the kayubi + t
He abilities he's mastered himself.
You cannot beat qhat you cant hit and also outsmart . Minato Namikaze. His speed alone and some s/t would give naguto great difficulties. If you loolk at my earlier message i tell u how he could beat Nagato. Sry on my cell and dont to retype the whole meassage, already writing to much.
Tobi and Kabuto , i really dont need to argue the outcome is clear.
Itatchi would have trobles with nagatot but with his heniius coupled with his techs he maybe able to beat anyone on any given day. The tatsjka sword and tht shield with all his other abilities puts him on the level.
Sasuke would pop paths like popcorn.... Going a little overboard but with EMS this dude is dangerous and has more stam that itachi. Itachis one downfall. What he looks at can be attacked without a very high lvl of speed which nagato and his paths do not have.
Raikagd and bee i was wrong to add i see thee faults but
tobi
kabuto
minato
naruto
and hashi win hands down. Nagato is very close to top 5 i believe but cannot beat any of them . Then throw Itachi ,sazuke , and nagato in a hat and draw because tbey are all very close.
Im sorry message was so ling ive wanted answer back but phone died while i was out.
also base your argument off reallity not like healthy nagato which is one of kabutos edos. If you didnt do it while you were alive does not matter. Edo nagato is on a higher lvl than when he was alive and has a youthfull body he forfiet. This would rank under kabuto.
Anyone else remember that deva path allows you to fly? >> Look at when Yahiko Pain destroyed the village, so it kinda voids out the fact that Nagato has little mobility.
Nagatoes paths are all more mobile than nagatoi said he wasnt mobile , which he isnt . Add the 6 paths up and you get the power ocf nagi slowed down. Remember 1 power per path . Anx none have amazing speed. There more mobile but can certainly be caught,fooled and destroyeded like naruto did.
I think a couple of u are judging the whole atgument bt the tittle. Im pretty much saying hes overrated because to aa lot of people he seems to be top 3. Look at the points top 10 100% top 5 no. And if u dont think so we can agree to disagree which is ok . Really the only perso. With the real answer is kishi.
when bee just go bijuu mode then TBB the crippled nagato what would he do absorb tbb? look at this and open your mind
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look at the gap between a tbb and the ground nagato will get crumpled by that force alone.
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he will be killed before he even manage to touch that TBB. and even he can touch it he that absorbing tech is not an instant he will die before he can absorbed it all.
nagato cant absorb rocks water mountains tress. gumabunta or hachibi must just throw it to him
lets not underrated nagatos power anymore, now its very possible that he cant absorb them maybe not as possible that he cant deflect them with a very powerful ulmighty push.
That being said i wouldnt b surprised if he could absorb it all...
Furthermore we both know he wouldnt start the fight like that BUT since were talkin jus straight endin the fight from the beginin, nagato uses the universal pull to yank bee over before he can reacted jus like he did to sage mode with the deva path an the he can use the human path to take his soul, but if be decides to do something to stop it which i would be surprise if he did or didnt honestly cause he's kinda stupid no matter what he does its gonna have alot of chakra involed an when the universal pull pulls him close that chakras gettin absorbed...
me complete because he absorbed two tailed beast power from naruto and bee. one stupid and one laid back fighter. nagato is powerful IF he starts a fight absorbing those two that i've mention. but if nagato faced different shinobi in that situation he wont absorb that much to make him complete. he will lose without the PATHS due to lack of mobility thats why he uses PATHS!
by the way what is this healthy nagato, healthy itachi, coming from?those are edo.. maybe might guy should killed himself and kabuto resurrects him now we got some very powerful ninja 8gates unlimited MIGHTGUY.
Your in denial bro. Edo made him better gave hima a better body than he had in life. Funny jow people choose to see that he was alive for years and didnt perfect his body ..........why? Does this make any sense logically No. He didnt cause he coudnt.vdont wann hear he couldnt walk he could have had a path bring him sacrifices ,he didnt. This argument is flawd its like saying perfect nagato against a pefected naruto, or harizun in his prime. But i wont because thagz bullshi#t.
Faqs are faqs perfect nagato gave his lifeforce and body up to the
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gedo mazo for more power thats reallity. I hate kabuto but hes a beast because of his jutsu has not only braught back badass shinobi but some better than ever.
Your argument that SM Naruto beat Nagato is severely flawed, you really aren't accounting for all of the handicaps that Naruto was given for that fight.
1.) Deva Path had no power right after Naruto arrived.
2.) Naruto had information on every paths ability thanks to the village and Tsunade's summons
3.) Pain was trying to capture Naruto alive
4.) Naruto had all of the frogs there and had preparation SM clones waiting to be reverse summoned.
5.) Naruto could of easily have been killed any moment he was pinned down by Deva.
The only ones IMO that would likely beat Nagato are Edo Madara, Tobi with Jinnchuriki paths and Kabuto with Edo summons. Hashirama is debatable although he was supposedly extremely strong, Nagato has many counters to his techniques. The only other person who MIGHT beat Nagato is Naruto in BM mode so honestly I think Nagato is either 4th or 5th strongest in the series atm.[/QUOTE
Sry i took so long now the debate can begin. Im not going to say your wrong because to an exstint your right. Nagato does have a lot of counteds but so does anyone else on the top 10 list. What your saying is Nagato jutsu's are stronger thab haklf the people on my list and im sorry but that i dknt believe. Im not sure if u read my arguments earlier bit ill try to reinerrate quickly.
Naruto first. Nagato paths or nagato cannot take on a rasengan shiriken that hits them. This is proven by the paths by what was that sm naruto who in comparison to what he os.now is pretty weak. Nagato has not goyen any stronger since he died. Again died. You can call it part of thebplot you can cal it the biggest part of naruto's abilities his ability to persuade other and get them to follow him. Ive seen a couple statements that says Naruto did notbwin that fight. Now i care if you are in denial or not in a fight if you give up you lose. Something else needs to be understood because i saw someone else say nagato could have killed naruto at the time. Im sorry but i dont believe he cold have , he had enouhh chakra for 1 more tech, that does not mean he could have killed naruto who remember has the body of thd so6p extreamly durable. Naruto takes attacks that would topple any other shinobi easily and heals. Nagato also being very resiliant himself barely jad life in him he was already caughing up blood and straining himself using the all the previous jutsus.
Nagato is a monster but so is everyone else on tbe top 10. For him to have so much troble with naruto in sagemode states a lot when we have seen characters rise to feat higher than ever. Now naruto has the speed of Minato and the raw power of the kayubi + t
He abilities he's mastered himself.
You cannot beat qhat you cant hit and also outsmart . Minato Namikaze. His speed alone and some s/t would give naguto great difficulties. If you loolk at my earlier message i tell u how he could beat Nagato. Sry on my cell and dont to retype the whole meassage, already writing to much.
Tobi and Kabuto , i really dont need to argue the outcome is clear.
Itatchi would have trobles with nagatot but with his heniius coupled with his techs he maybe able to beat anyone on any given day. The tatsjka sword and tht shield with all his other abilities puts him on the level.
Sasuke would pop paths like popcorn.... Going a little overboard but with EMS this dude is dangerous and has more stam that itachi. Itachis one downfall. What he looks at can be attacked without a very high lvl of speed which nagato and his paths do not have.
Raikagd and bee i was wrong to add i see thee faults but
tobi
kabuto
minato
naruto
and hashi win hands down. Nagato is very close to top 5 i believe but cannot beat any of them . Then throw Itachi ,sazuke , and nagato in a hat and draw because tbey are all very close.
Im sorry message was so ling ive wanted answer back but phone died while i was out.
also base your argument off reallity not like healthy nagato which is one of kabutos edos. If you didnt do it while you were alive does not matter. Edo nagato is on a higher lvl than when he was alive and has a youthfull body he forfiet. This would rank under kabuto.
1. When deva path had naruto nailed to the growned he had giving up which is why he start askin all those questions, an if nagato wanted him dead he would of died
2. The other paths of pain had problems with sm naruto i cant recall 1 point n the fight when deva path had his powers that he had a problem
3. Any reasengun that naruto uses or minato uses would easily b destroyed by the deva path jus like he did to the reasengun shiruken or absorbed by the other path, as simple as that
4. Jus for the record nagato himself may not be able to walk or run but with his 5 summons on the ground to b his eyes an the bird summon flying him around with all the powers he has with the 6 path combined nagato's a match for any1 n naruto
5. Minato probably would even b able to beat the deva path because the deva path doesnt fight close range an in order to get a seal on him or use the reasengun he'd have to get close
6. Sasuke cant beat the six paths because after fighting 5 paths an 6 summons which im sure he could beat the deva path will destroy him because of his lack of chakra from fighting the others, even with the ems he cant only use suasnoo an the amatsurasu or how ever u spell that word if he has enough chakra, an after all pain did n that 1 day i think we can agree he probably has more stamina then sasuke
7. Bee's to stupid to beat the six paths his fight with them would be pretty much like his fight with kisame but worst an if he fought nagato it b the same thing
8. A would have a better chance but eventually pains numbers an stamina would get the best of him
9. If kabuto is anywhere near the battle feild he will lose end of story.
10. Tobi would b an interesting fight but ultimatlely pain/nagato can use the rinneigun better than him an but his paths verse pains 6 paths, i gotta say pain would probably lose that 1
11. An last i dont remember kabuto sayin he made any1 better than there prime but madara so im not sure where every1's getting that, an if i was u guys i would base nagato primes skills off his fight with bee naruto an itachi because he was under full control of some1 who doesnt even know how to use the rinnengun so when u really think about it he was being held back because kabuto could never use the rinnengun to its full potenial
AN MORE IMPORTANTLY!!....i know i spelled alot of stuff wrong but the naruto shit is really hard for me to spell :shrug:
If you mean Prime Nagato with use of his legs, i don't even think Madara could defeat that man. he's completely invincible in naruto terms. shinra tensei and preta path make ninjutsu useless. asura path armour and shared vision make taijutsu useless. and the use of six pain bodies means you can only trap one at a time with visual genjutsu, while the rest are right behind you, trying to kill you.
Your in denial bro. Edo made him better gave hima a better body than he had in life. Funny jow people choose to see that he was alive for years and didnt perfect his body ..........why? Does this make any sense logically No. He didnt cause he coudnt.vdont wann hear he couldnt walk he could have had a path bring him sacrifices ,he didnt. This argument is flawd its like saying perfect nagato against a pefected naruto, or harizun in his prime. But i wont because thagz bullshi#t.
Your arguement almost makes since say why wouldnt he perfect his body, an sayin he didnt do so cause he couldnt, an sayin it doesnt make since that if he could why wouldnt he or watever...BUT, theres so much shit n naruto an every anime that doesnt make since for example, like when pain beat sage mode an then he gets into a conversation with him even tho he surround by a destroy village of all his friends...that doesnt make sense, or when tsunade let her best friend go fight the leader of the akatsuki in his own village by himself...that doesnt make sense...or even another anime(an the only reason im sayin this is cause it always pissed me off)when goku fought kid buu why the **** did he not go ssj3 in the dam begining...
So if ur argument is that it doesnt make sense that not really a good 1 im sure he had his own reasons for doin things the way he did it
Your in denial bro. Edo made him better gave hima a better body than he had in life. Funny jow people choose to see that he was alive for years and didnt perfect his body ..........why? Does this make any sense logically No. He didnt cause he coudnt.vdont wann hear he couldnt walk he could have had a path bring him sacrifices ,he didnt. This argument is flawd its like saying perfect nagato against a pefected naruto, or harizun in his prime. But i wont because thagz bullshi#t.
1. When deva path had naruto nailed to the growned he had giving up which is why he start askin all those questions, an if nagato wanted him dead he would of died
2. The other paths of pain had problems with sm naruto i cant recall 1 point n the fight when deva path had his powers that he had a problem
3. Any reasengun that naruto uses or minato uses would easily b destroyed by the deva path jus like he did to the reasengun shiruken or absorbed by the other path, as simple as that
4. Jus for the record nagato himself may not be able to walk or run but with his 5 summons on the ground to b his eyes an the bird summon flying him around with all the powers he has with the 6 path combined nagato's a match for any1 n naruto
5. Minato probably would even b able to beat the deva path because the deva path doesnt fight close range an in order to get a seal on him or use the reasengun he'd have to get close
6. Sasuke cant beat the six paths because after fighting 5 paths an 6 summons which im sure he could beat the deva path will destroy him because of his lack of chakra from fighting the others, even with the ems he cant only use suasnoo an the amatsurasu or how ever u spell that word if he has enough chakra, an after all pain did n that 1 day i think we can agree he probably has more stamina then sasuke
7. Bee's to stupid to beat the six paths his fight with them would be pretty much like his fight with kisame but worst an if he fought nagato it b the same thing
8. A would have a better chance but eventually pains numbers an stamina would get the best of him
9. If kabuto is anywhere near the battle feild he will lose end of story.
10. Tobi would b an interesting fight but ultimatlely pain/nagato can use the rinneigun better than him an but his paths verse pains 6 paths, i gotta say pain would probably lose that 1
11. An last i dont remember kabuto sayin he made any1 better than there prime but madara so im not sure where every1's getting that, an if i was u guys i would base nagato primes skills off his fight with bee naruto an itachi because he was under full control of some1 who doesnt even know how to use the rinnengun so when u really think about it he was being held back because kabuto could never use the rinnengun to its full potenial
AN MORE IMPORTANTLY!!....i know i spelled alot of stuff wrong but the naruto shit is really hard for me to spell
I know how you feel i typed that message on my phone and that was annoying .
1)I do not dispute the fact Naruto did have a bit of help in this fight your right about that it is what it is.
2) even Nagato runs out of Chackra as we saw he almost did in the fight against Naruto. Not saying his Deva path can't absorb because it can but the user would still need chakra to use it.Nagato needs to be worn down his techiques do take a hefty amount of chackra. This would give Itachi and Sasuke a problem if they could not finish the fight off quickly. I believe Nagato carried a bit of arragance deaming himself the god of shinobi, that be used against him as we also saw in the Naruto fight a bit.
3) His shared vision is very formidable, and makes this fight much more dificult I also agree with you there. we have to take in Naruto, Minato's speed as well as Hashi Mokuton. When used cleverly enough though still not easy the Paths can be isolated. Naruto started to figure out how to outsmart Nagato by using decoy attacks and smoke bombs, kinda like the fight with Neji. Minato and Hashi were both much smarter and battle hardened than Naruto. Imagine hashi put up a barrier then takes out 1 path under the barrier, this could be possible. I had stated earlier his barrier is one of the best defense we've seen in the anime took a TBB from 9 tails no problem. This does not even take that much thought process and is very plausible.
4) Minato would have trouble with this fight because he does have a lot of chakra bt no were close to Nagato. Minato would have to rely very heavily on FTG and i also think S/T jutsu to win squeeze this one out. He could isolate the paths with his S/T then take them one on one. the shared vision would not help here because no other path would know where his kunai is set.
This would be a very difficult fight for Minato , one he may not win if they were to fight 5 out of 5 times in my opinion, but I woudn't doubt his genius nore his mighty techs.(that we've seen).
5)I think the fight would be easier for Sasuke than you think. Hard to say how easy because we need to no how long his chakra can last. But if 1 path or summon gets hits with Ameterasu there done for. He shot 11 at 1 time and di not seem like his chakra was strained at all. Ameterasu is a relatively fast jutsu's not like rasen shuriken where he's looking it attcks. Without rediculous speed wich none of the paths or Nagato himseld have, would be almost like a sitting duck.
6)I dont think you read a lot of my rebutles from earlier I tried myself dont think A or B can beat Nagato so we 100% agree here.
7)if its face to face Kabuto loses a at a distance he's the most dangerous person on the list with the Impure Resurrection.
8)Tobi with all the Bijuuu isn't even a fair fight. His paths are much stronger than Nagato's and much quicker also with shared vision. It was hard for Naruto in BM and Bee to land an attack whick is one of the huge differeces from Nagato's paths and tobi's. Not to mention his s/t jutsu. I dont think that fight would even last till Nagato ran out of chakra. Nagato listened to tobi for he got the rinnegan which emplies to me he had somewhat of a fear/respect for him. After he gets the rinnegan he's in a whole nother league.
This is what ive been debating all day prime would be before he got Gedo mazo I think but he did not have the rediculous strength till after the gedo Mazo relinquishing his perfect body. I guess in is PRIME he never had a pefect body anyways.
lets not underrated nagatos power anymore, now its very possible that he cant absorb them maybe not as possible that he cant deflect them with a very powerful ulmighty push.
That being said i wouldnt b surprised if he could absorb it all...
Furthermore we both know he wouldnt start the fight like that BUT since were talkin jus straight endin the fight from the beginin, nagato uses the universal pull to yank bee over before he can reacted jus like he did to sage mode with the deva path an the he can use the human path to take his soul, but if be decides to do something to stop it which i would be surprise if he did or didnt honestly cause he's kinda stupid no matter what he does its gonna have alot of chakra involed an when the universal pull pulls him close that chakras gettin absorbed
I've seen a lot of He's top 3, he can take anyone 1 vs 1 , he's top 5.All these are overrating him. Top 10 100% just cant make that top 5 list thats all.
Well I always thought it was negato after absorbed bee with full use of his legs but reading a couple pages back and see you guys are saying we can't use that to debate and I understand because it can be seen as a what if situation ok
But even still using the 6 paths it's too much for some of the people on that list
Tobi- agreed he can beat him
Kabuto- iffy but I could see him winning just because of ET.
Naruto- as much as I hate this goody goody he has a good chance of winning right now with his broken BM. (even thought sometimes I like I think negato is smart enought to find a way to win but that's just me)
Sasuke- I don't think he would win sasuke has no knowledge of the Rin at all he wouldn't know how to deal with them especially deva preta animal and human.
Bee- bee is strong I like him not many people can got toe to toe with him especially since he has samehada now but He can still drain him of his chakra and he still has to deal with deva along with the other 5.
Madara- agreed he would win.
Hashi- don't know enough but I'll give it to him because of the hype.
A-no knowledge of Rin he has absolutely no long range attacks yes he's fast as shit but i don't see him being able to beat deva.
Itachi- while he is one of the smartest people in the series I don't seem him walking away from this one especially since he only has ms yes is susanoo is godlike but he can't use it forever, I guess he could tsukoyomi.
Minato- I don't see this happening either but we don't really have enough info on him to tell but he has never faced a Rin user he doesn't know what it's capable of.
Deva is the real threat because of how fast he is (I know alot of people didn't like the animation used for that fight but it was ment to show how fast and powerful the two of them were.) and his tensi abilities. The other problem is actually knowing what the abilities are and how to counter them. Naruto had help from tsunades slug telling that pains powers
If nagato faces sasuke, itachi, naruto,bee or even kakashi in present times 1on1 they may defeat nagato . Having lack of mobility can be a big problem.
One on One or with his six paths?
As people have said there is only maybe 2-3 people that could beat him, so how does that make him overrated? Its the same as sasuke or naruto, if only 3-4 people can beat them, then they aren't over rated.
I've said it a few times but I believe there are more than 2-3 people and given a lot a faqs why Nagato is a monster in that was I dont think he is overrated but i think he gets put a bit to high on the totem pole Top 10 100% Top 5 belongs to
(no order)
Hashi
Madara
Naruto
Tobi
and Kabuto<------i hate it but Impure Reserrection may be the single best jutsu in naruto.
Your literally trying to underrate Nagato, are you f**cking serious? He was called the 3rd SO6P by Tobi himself. Edo Nagato wasnt healthy, he was less then his prime. Naruto and Bee were losing before Itachi came in. If Itachi didnt tell them to shoot the black orb, bee and naruto would be dead already.
I cant even bother arguing with you that Naruto beat Nagato in SM. He was fighting the Six Paths of Pain not Nagato.
The Deva Path destroyed the entire village in one jutsu. This was being controlled by an Unhealthy Nagato, Also through the Six paths. Edo Nagatos power was 10x that of the six paths put together. A healthy Nagato would be atleast 50x that power. Stop underrating him, he is one of the most powerful characters in the entire naruto series. The only people that could possibly beat him now is Bijuu Mode Naruto and Tobi with his Six paths...... Just stop -.-
Also Edo Madara would have a slight chance. Only with extremely high difficulty though.
Dont think you realized he was stronger as an Edo and that was odvious.Nevermind SM narutos fight, he is now BM naruto and im sorry but there is no way Nagato could with this fight. The paths almost dont even matter anymore Naruto can make more than 6 clones and all in KM. With his new power ups his strength is very apparent and in a 1 on 1he would be by far one of the best. Nagato does have Op'd techniques but the one that puts Naruto on a different level is that speed. This would lead to Nagato's demise.
Your in denial bro. Edo made him better gave hima a better body than he had in life. Funny jow people choose to see that he was alive for years and didnt perfect his body ..........why? Does this make any sense logically No. He didnt cause he coudnt.vdont wann hear he couldnt walk he could have had a path bring him sacrifices ,he didnt. This argument is flawd its like saying perfect nagato against a pefected naruto, or harizun in his prime. But i wont because thagz bullshi#t.
The only people on you list that can beat negato or even fight him to a draw is Tobi Madara hashi and kabuto everyone else would be overwhelmed 1 on 1. Naruto may have a chance but negato mastered the Rin, all paths being used in one body was stated to be significantly stronger than 6 separate paths. It's just to much to deal with; 3 tensi, robotics with lasers bullets and missiles, ability to absorb chakra, ability to absorb life, ability to give life, ability to summon 6+ boss summons, plus gedo mazo and it's soul dragon and flight his a beast. Bee and naruto would have both been dead if Itachi were not there and Itachi would have been dead if those two weren't there. Tobi and Madara have Rin so they know how to get around everything he can throw at them and kabuto will just use ET, hashi is also a maybe only because he has never fought a Rin user so he has no idea what to expect. Everyone else will be overwhelmed yes even minato A and sasuke especially since they have never fought a Rin user. Come on bro if I didnt know any better I'd say you were trolling.
Im not sure If you and everyone else remembers but he absorbed Naruto's chakra in the 1st fight............What happened?...........I dont remeber him getting a pefect body. Your whole argument is flawed. Ounce again Edo Nagato falls under Kabuto's power not Nagato's, i mean the guy was already dead not like DBZ where you can go train after you die keep this in mind. Overwhelmed?? again im sorry but not true I dont think a lot of people get the point of my SM naruto argument. Fact is EVERYONE on my list is much more dangerous than naruto in SM and have Jutsu's to back it up. The fact that SM Naruto gave nagato all the toble he did was the whole point.Even in BM he was not as powerful as Minato nore have the thought process of his father or Itachi. Hashi hands down would win this as well as Madara he also had rinnegan + Sharingan when he was alive. Nagato is not fast enough to dodge Sasuke amaterasu especially when he can fire 11 at 1 time .
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Ok say he did win which he didn't Naruto now is in KM which he's goten 2 major power ups since that fight. Nagato would have a problem with BM naruto, KM is overkill. ounce again paths at this point dont matter naruto clones are above Kage level at this point as far as numbers naruto can create more clones than Nagato has paths after controlling Kurama not even The great Nagato's chakra can compare to Naruto's. Naruto can now create Mini Rasen Shurikens in multiple's from 1 naruto. Be interesting to see him create 10 clones then create 30 Rasen shurikens. Nagato had problems with SM Naruto imagine KM.
u stupid?? madara maybe!? im not a fan of him but they both have the same eyes so when u look past the eyes nagato gets raped.....:scorps:[/QUOTE
LOl am I Stupid? No far from I wish you had a bit more info to back up what your saying though. I've pProvided a lot of faqs to back up what I say and multiple times at that. Damn just cause I disagree with you I gotta be stupid huh. Seems to me like your a bit ignorant at times. Remember the base his here for discussions thats all this is man. And im trying to respnd to most off the comments and back up what I say. Guess I offended you or something although I just met you. Remember we can agree to disagree and its still koo not like Me or you wrote the anime Kishi did so I may be right I may be wrong but at least i back up my statements with faqs and exerts from the manga. You just resort to name callin??
he does exist like back in the days of hanzo and when he was younger but he was not as strong as he is now and he got sick/skinny as hell by overusing the rinnegan and stuff like the gedo mazo really affected him as well as hanzo burning his legs.
I agree to a extent. with all of Madara battle genius I think he would learn at an exellerated rate But Nagato had his eyes for much longer. I also think Tobi gave his eyes to Nagato so he would have to bear the burdan of summoning the Gedo Mazo and losing his physical body instead of himself,although not sure whats up with Tobi's physical body seems its already ravaged.
The man who:
1) Mastered all 5 elements
2) Absorb's all ninjutsu
3) Turn's into metal with missile's
4) Ability to summon monster's
5) Suck people's soul out
6) Control life and death
7) Control gravity
8) Gedo mazo
9) Created a moon
10) Has a huge, huge amount of chakra
He can use all these tech/abilities at the same time, and you say he is overrated.
He flatened a whole city. By the way he took on a six tailed naruto wuth only one path, now you tell me which if those people you picked can do that..... Think about it properly, how stronge was the six tailed naruto....... And nagato only used ONE PATH........ Also he was the leader off akutsuki and everyone feared him.
No That was never the point Nagato is a monster. I tried to add the 1 vs 1 so everyone would get the points that i just think he's overrated among the top 5 Not overrated all together. He's 100% top 10 just hearing to much he can take anyone and he's top 3 and im sorry thats just not the case. have a couple pretty long statements on the last page or the one before if you want to check out some of the debate.
BBlaze sometimes i see some great opinions from you.I just checked out the threads for about 6 months before I ever made a account.
But Cant agreee with you.
I dont think there really is a accurate top 5 because some characters we just dont have enough info on. But if I had to make one
Kabuto
Tobi
Naruto
Hashi
Madara
could all take Nagato.Crazy to me how this is not apparent. No matter if he had help or not Naruto in SM gave Nagato a run for his money and ultimtely won the battle.(without help a different outcome) But he's come leaps and bounds from that Naruto and so has sasuke. Itachi i think was always on par with Nagato his issue is his weak stamina. Would also be a hard fight for Minito but i think he could take him. I hope you read the debates because I go pretty far as to say how each charater could and i think would win.Seems to me you rate Nagato on your top 3-5 and i think thats a bit to high for him. Top 10 100%
Look at my first message. Your falling under another person saying Edo Nagato is Nagato. Im sorry but they are not one and the same. In life Nagato did not have the health and wasn't perfected like Edo Nagato. Remember he was strapped to a chair and had post coming out of his back...
but a healthy nagato which fought against hanzo was mobile.... as far as nagato is healthy and can combine all the six paths in one body, he is clearly a top 5 ninja U_U
He could absorb chakra and regain his health, we saw him do it against naruto, B and itachi il say it again only reason it didnt happen is coz of plot no jutsu.
We also saw him Absord Naruto's chakra in the 1st fight and it did nothing, no perfect body so based on that how do you figure? Funny when he is alive and he absorbs Jutsu/chakra nthing happens....Hmmmm. After he gets reserrected as an Edo and absorns chakra he gets his Perfect body back! But its not because of the Impure Reserrection, I dont see how you came to your conclusion.And no one knows about the Plot no jutsu but Kishi thats why we speculate like this.
>> Look at when Yahiko Pain destroyed the village, so it kinda voids out the fact that Nagato has little mobility.
