[Theory] The Time Between Jinchurikis

[Avani]

It's pretty much a Tobi ID thread. You are discussing his ID and reinforcing points in favour of your own theory (which you have for a long time now) and it should be done in the same thread.

 

[NarutoKage2]

It's pretty much a Tobi ID thread. You are discussing his ID and reinforcing points in favour of your own theory (which you have for a long time now) and it should be done in the same thread.

Its NOT a Tobi ID thread. The discussion is about the possibility of there being a time between jinchurikis being selected when the tailed beasts are removed out of the original.


I only mentioned that in passing because some of the points mentioned it.

EDIT: And as someone mentioned, it actually causes more problems to what i believed than it solves

 

[Avani]

This makes a hell of a lot sense.
Besides, you might want to add the fact that Tobi seemed to know when a jinchuuriki's seal was supposed to be at it's weakest; childbirth.

That is not a kind of information that is freely given out, which indicates that he might have had an affiliation with Mito, somehow.
I'm still not sure if Mito gave birth before or after becoming a jinchuuriki, but seeing that people know that a seal is weakened during childbirth and she logically has to be the first ever female jinchuuriki to give birth, I find it highly plausible that said information was gained due to Mito having similar problems during her delivery.

It's clearly stated in the manga that Mito's seal almost broke during childbirth. Read the manga more carefully.

Its NOT a Tobi ID thread. The discussion is about the possibility of there being a time between jinchurikis being selected when the tailed beasts are removed out of the original.


I only mentioned that in passing because some of the points mentioned it.

EDIT: And as someone mentioned, it actually causes more problems to what i believed than it solves

It's just adding points to support your previous theory and you even picked a few which were already in your argument like Kyuubi identifying Tobi. I said it should go to the thread already discussing these theories. But Meh..

 

[Qcks]

And yes. it was never shown, that's why this is just a theory. However, if the Kyuubi could be instantly sealed from one jinchuriki to the next w/o leaving the original host body then what jutsu would do that? That has to be one helluva jutsu that manages to do something that the rinnegan's Gedo Mazo(which was basically a weapon of the SO6P) took 3 days to perform. Even then it only sealed the bijuu into the statue, not another human.

Gedo Mazo is completely different then any of the other sealing Jutsu we've seen.
Comparing any sealing technique to Gedo Mazo is Skewed.

Gedo Mazo might take three days because there's not just 1 tailed beast being sealed into it. Gedo Mazo was designed to contain 9 tailed beasts. Packing the Bijuu into one statue like a bunch of sardines, probably takes some time.

If we're just talking speculation, it's possible that Gedo Mazo could instantly seal a bijuu inside of it's self, but there wouldn't be enough room for anything else after that, and that kinda runs counter to what Tobi is trying to accomplish.

As far as what Sealing techniques could be used to seal the Kyuubi instantly into the next Jinchuuriki, or any tailed beast into any host for that matter, I imagine it'd be a sealing technique specifically designed for that purpose. The eight trigram seal that Minato used to seal kurama into naruto would probably work for all of kurama if there had been more time to prepare Naruto and Kurama for the transfer.

 

[leaf86]

this is stupid and solves nothing it is pointless -_-

 

[NarutoKage2]

Gedo Mazo is completely different then any of the other sealing Jutsu we've seen.
Comparing any sealing technique to Gedo Mazo is Skewed.

Gedo Mazo might take three days because there's not just 1 tailed beast being sealed into it. Gedo Mazo was designed to contain 9 tailed beasts. Packing the Bijuu into one statue like a bunch of sardines, probably takes some time.

If we're just talking speculation, it's possible that Gedo Mazo could instantly seal a bijuu inside of it's self, but there wouldn't be enough room for anything else after that, and that kinda runs counter to what Tobi is trying to accomplish.

As far as what Sealing techniques could be used to seal the Kyuubi instantly into the next Jinchuuriki, or any tailed beast into any host for that matter, I imagine it'd be a sealing technique specifically designed for that purpose. The eight trigram seal that Minato used to seal kurama into naruto would probably work for all of kurama if there had been more time to prepare Naruto and Kurama for the transfer.

Yes, Gedo Mazo is completely different, no arguing there.

But the 8 trigrams seal was already shown in use when the Kyuubi attacked Konoha, and Minato still had to use Shiki Fujin to seal his soul with the Yin half of Kurama. The mass of chakra was too great to be completely contained by that one jutsu alone.

In the case of Mito, there was the 1st Hokage who could control tailed beasts with Mokuton, which naturally suppressed their chakra. It is also probable that his scroll had sealing jutsus to aid this process as well.

But w/o mokuton sealing/controlling the Kyuubi would present a problem, provided we were to assume as my theory suggests that a Tailed Beast when taken out of its former jinchuriki is released in its physical form, then must be contained to re seal it using the new jinchuriki via 8 trigrams or w/e.

The effect of time might be a factor, but what would you do with the tailed beast until the jutsu is complete?

Gedo Mazo has the unique ability to gradually draw out the chakra of the tailed beast from the jinchuriki, i think this was done by using the combined chakra of the Akatsuki members who stood on the fingers of the statue and contributed their own chakra to help 'push out' the tailed beast from the jinchuriki. The Statue itself is like a storage device, and no i don't think you need to compress the Bijuus at all .....remember the Sage sealed the 10 tails in himself? His ability was the rinnegan so in my opinion the Statue is capable of holding chakra of all 10 tails in itself, otherwise Tobi's plan would'nt even work. The time taken is only because the force required to push out the tailed beast from its jinchuriki into the statue has to come from the person/s doing the extracting and that's what causes the delay.

 

[Abd100]

This also explains why kagami( i think that was his name), in the battle field during the attack.

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

hmmm i though that when a bjuu dies it reincarnates later on....which is why they did not seal the nine tails completely because it would resurface but not under control... also it seems as if the host dies so does the bjuu so instead of letting that happen there should be some seal or tech that lets you transfer from one host to another , when minato was talking to naruto about his mom and the jinchurikki im pretty sure , ima look back just to check, but im pretty sure he said something about kushina came to the village for that purpose to become the host after mito.so im thinking that the beast gets transferred before the host dies because if they do so will the beast and they will reincarnate later on.

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

Yes, Gedo Mazo is completely different, no arguing there.

But the 8 trigrams seal was already shown in use when the Kyuubi attacked Konoha, and Minato still had to use Shiki Fujin to seal his soul with the Yin half of Kurama. The mass of chakra was too great to be completely contained by that one jutsu alone.

hmm i could heavily argue the main reason he sealed on half of the chackra is becuase he did not want the nine tails to reincarnate later on , so that tobi can grab him plus he wanted to seal some of it into naruto to help him (as you can see now) ... not because the chakra was to great.

 

[NarutoKage2]

Yes, Gedo Mazo is completely different, no arguing there.

But the 8 trigrams seal was already shown in use when the Kyuubi attacked Konoha, and Minato still had to use Shiki Fujin to seal his soul with the Yin half of Kurama. The mass of chakra was too great to be completely contained by that one jutsu alone.

hmm i could heavily argue the main reason he sealed on half of the chackra is becuase he did not want the nine tails to reincarnate later on , so that tobi can grab him plus he wanted to seal some of it into naruto to help him (as you can see now) ... not because the chakra was to great.

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Yes he wanted to help Naruto but the chakra was also too great. Try reading the manga before arguing.

 

[OneMellowGuy]

Then this theory makes alot of sense and i'm leaning towards Kagami Uchiha. but here's a better question: If the Kurama knows who he is then why doesn't he tell Naruto?

 

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nice theory but i dnt think its gonna be the case