Kisame vs Mei Terumi

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I want to say Kisame but I'm not sure. Kisame's sword has a hard time absorbing fire, how in the world can it absorb Lava.
-If Mei can keep Kisame at a distance she can win. Sameda(Idk how to spell it) can't absorb ether one of her KGs.
-If Kisame creates a water dome, Mei can just use Boil release to start melting Kisame or Lava release to create a wall of thick rock in the dome to keep him away.

I'm thinking Mei can win, If she can keep Kisame at bay which is likely do to the fact of her ninjutsu skills
 
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Am i the only one who thinks Kisame is kinda whack? 3 appearances, 3 losses, even with intel. Lost to a taijutsu user even though his physical strength and endurance is well above par, an has a living sword with a substantially high pool of chakra. Idk, to me something doesnt add up
He lost due to bad matchups. He had Bee completely beat. IDk what ur talking about. He is one of the greatest shinobi in the manga
 
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He lost due to bad matchups. He had Bee completely beat. IDk what ur talking about. He is one of the greatest shinobi in the manga
Didnt he only have Bee beat because he targeted that giant raccoon guy & bee had to worry about him instead of 100% focusing on Kisame? & i suppose it could be considered a bad matchup but he had intel on Gai after his first L. He shoulda put up a little more of a fight. eh thats just my opinion
 

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Kisame doesn't need to absorb her lava.

Kisame always uses his environment changing jutsu first off.

His lake jutsu would win this battle.

Lake jutsu+shark summonings would make Kisame a winner
I think you are really overrating Kisame here.Without Samehada Kisame isn't that strong.With Samehada Kisame still has to get close to an opponent to absorb their chakra.Furthermore, exactly how would that "lake jutsu" effect Mei who has Water, Fire, and EARTH? The key nature element being earth, which is strong against water.Saying "Lake jutsu+shark summonings would make Kisame a winner" is dumb when we know Mei has earth jutsus and Kisame sharks can be counter easily.

He lost due to bad matchups. He had Bee completely beat. IDk what ur talking about. He is one of the greatest shinobi in the manga

No he didn't.The only reason he was close to winnings was because Bee didn't want to go full eight tails and be found out by his brother.And even with that self imposted restriction, Bee still lariat open Kisame's chest with Kisame only surviving because he combined with Samehada.Basically, without restricting himself, Bee could have killed Kisame within seconds.As for Kisame losing because of bad match up, how many fight could he have won without samehada.Kisame clearly isn't one of the greatest shinobi in the manga, seeing as without his weapon he couldn't take on any of the top shinobis.
 
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No he didn't.The only reason he was close to winnings was because Bee didn't want to go full eight tails and be found out by his brother.And even with that self imposted restriction, Bee still lariat open Kisame's chest with Kisame only surviving because he combined with Samehada.Basically, without restricting himself, Bee could have killed Kisame within seconds.As for Kisame losing because of bad match up, how many fight could he have won without samehada.Kisame clearly isn't one of the greatest shinobi in the manga, seeing as without his weapon he couldn't take on any of the top shinobis.
Samehada is his weapon. His base chakra is strong too. Lets take Bee without the 8 tails how strong would he be. I dont feel like getting into an argument who would me more useless without their main techs to fight.

What would turning into the 8 tails prove? Kisame would just stip him of even more chakra. You're forggeting the Raikage showed up? and that was a Zetsu clone that got lariated.
 

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Samehada is his weapon. His base chakra is strong too. Lets take Bee without the 8 tails how strong would he be. I dont feel like getting into an argument who would me more useless without their main techs to fight.

What would turning into the 8 tails prove? Kisame would just stip him of even more chakra. You're forggeting the Raikage showed up? and that was a Zetsu clone that got lariated.
Reread the manga.Zetsu didn't switch with Kisame until Kisame used Water Release: Great Exploding Water Colliding Wave.Killer Bee Lariat open his chest before Kisame used that jutsu.Furthermore, you are right to not want to argue are who would be more useless without their main tech, because without the eight tails Killer Bee would still be better than Kisame.Or did you forget during that fight Killer Bee would have killed Kisame at the beginning with the lightning Pencil and Sword attack if Samehada hadn't absorb the lightning.
 
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