Suggestion: Remove the Custom Jutsu Limit

[Wind..]

Finally, someone who actually tries to help, by suggesting something by taking both sides into account and not just complain. Meh, i'll think of something to reply and post it later as i'm a little busy at the moment.

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and btw, +300? LOL. Sure. I'm for a 1500 CJ limit. Let's give it a try and see how it works.

I think 1500 would work and yeah I agree with Mig's suggestion

 

[Scarface]

This may be simply my opinion, but to having 70 customs allowed you from others is a very generous amount. That is, in essence, 105 customs total available for use per each members, including individually made customs. If you're suggesting it's unfair for us to restrict having people (try not to take offense to this next part) ***** themselves out for techniques created by other people because it somehow "limits individuality," then I believe the growth and development of the RP has really spoiled many of the members here. You say that back in the day, there were no restrictions, but back in the day, people had enough integrity not to hoard 300 customs accumulated from others, and you should also be aware that back in the day each member was limited to a total of 20 customs maximum INCLUDING custom elements (which members could only use 1 of, by the way). I'm not posting to represent the moderator community with this post, as it can be seen as rather unprofessional. My commentary on the matter reflects my own views on question of custom usage. Honestly, if you can't live with the current restrictions, which are EXTREMELY generous already, you should not blame the system. Discontent with not having more than the already allowed 35 basic customs plus 12 Customs PER Custom Element, Kekei Genkai/Clan abilities, Special Bio abilities, and 70 Customs from others is naught short of greed, in my honest opinion.

I'm honestly surprised that anyone could have over 70 regular custom jutsu at all. Deplore me if you will, but possessing other people's customs does not reflect on your individuality, as those customs are not your creations. I wish you all could see how fortunate you are.

EDIT: For the record, I'm rather indifferent to the restriction or unrestriction of given custom techniques. I'm just appalled that people suddenly start to whine because "their creativity" is being taken away, despite given techniques not actually being a result of the receiving member's so-called "creativity."

Yes but who are your all to be "generous". The mods and admins make the game, but the GAMERS play it. Its like when they made devil may cry 2, it sucked ass because they messed with it. You all are going to kill the RP with all this new rules bullshit :/

 

[XZA]

how about a limit of 150.so it wouldn't be too much nor too high. most people have 200-300 customs so getting rid of 50-100 of those unused customs that you never use would be good right?

 

[ZK]

NB, I cannot thank you enough for your support and suggestions you've shown me and Yard today. While he created the petition and I created this thread, each end every one of you signatures and comments meant a world to (and I think I speak for both of us) us both. We have reached 100 signatures and the pool gives off an impressive statistic, too.
Thank you, NarutoBase community, you're the best!​

 

[-Yard-]

Or we could just rebuild the RP System from the ground up again. Start fresh. That way everyone is on par with each other and restrictions. No more arguing.

Although many people would probably bitch and leave.

Dont take me serious though. That wasn't even a real suggestion.

Real suggestion: Allow Custom Jutsu creators to allow up to 3 people to use their custom jutsu. The amount of CJ's you can allow to be borrowed is 5.

Basically:

Jutsu #1 1,2,3
Jutsu #2 1,2,3
Jutsu #3 1,2,3
Jutsu #4 1,2,3
Jutsu #5 1,2,3

or somewhere along those lines. >__<

I would prefer this as I even suggested it yesterday but mostly because it's better than ripping a massive amount of jutsus away from people, but I still don't see why if the old way wasn't damaging anything then why should it be restricted? Take a look at the technique list, There used to be 42 water techniques in the old list, now C rank has 26 techniques alone. Is anyone ever going to use all of those techniques in one battle? Hell no, but it's nice to have the option to. This doesn't mean we should restrict how man cannon techs someone can learn does it? This doesn't mean we should restrict how man elements a sensei can teach. Just let us have the customs we have, it doesn't hurt anyone.


Note: This wasn't directly completely at you but just to others posting as well ^^

 

[XZA]

NB, I cannot thank you enough for your support and suggestions you've shown me and Yard today. While he created the petition and I created this thread, each end every one of you signatures and comments meant a world to (and I think I speak for both of us) us both. We have reached 100 signatures and the pool gives off an impressive statistic, too.
Thank you, NarutoBase community, you're the best!​

you are welcome U_U

 

[Wind..]

This may be simply my opinion, but to having 70 customs allowed you from others is a very generous amount. That is, in essence, 105 customs total available for use per each members, including individually made customs. If you're suggesting it's unfair for us to restrict having people (try not to take offense to this next part) ***** themselves out for techniques created by other people because it somehow "limits individuality," then I believe the growth and development of the RP has really spoiled many of the members here. You say that back in the day, there were no restrictions, but back in the day, people had enough integrity not to hoard 300 customs accumulated from others, and you should also be aware that back in the day each member was limited to a total of 20 customs maximum INCLUDING custom elements (which members could only use 1 of, by the way). I'm not posting to represent the moderator community with this post, as it can be seen as rather unprofessional. My commentary on the matter reflects my own views on question of custom usage. Honestly, if you can't live with the current restrictions, which are EXTREMELY generous already, you should not blame the system. Discontent with not having more than the already allowed 35 basic customs plus 12 Customs PER Custom Element, Kekei Genkai/Clan abilities, Special Bio abilities, and 70 Customs from others is naught short of greed, in my honest opinion.

I'm honestly surprised that anyone could have over 70 regular custom jutsu at all. Deplore me if you will, but possessing other people's customs does not reflect on your individuality, as those customs are not your creations. I wish you all could see how fortunate you are.

EDIT: For the record, I'm rather indifferent to the restriction or unrestriction of given custom techniques. I'm just appalled that people suddenly start to whine because "their creativity" is being taken away, despite given techniques not actually being a result of the receiving member's so-called "creativity."

I do think that 105 Customs + all the other stuff should be enough for people and we are lucky to not only have 20 including custom elements, but I think it is just limiting freedom of the RP and I just think the rule should be lifted and a rule put on how many people each Custom can be given to. I do respect your opinion though.

 

['Kurapika]

If you're suggesting it's unfair for us to restrict having people ***** themselves out for techniques created by other people because it somehow "limits individuality," then I believe the growth and development of the RP has really spoiled many of the members here. You say that back in the day, there were no restrictions, but back in the day, people had enough integrity not to hoard 300 customs accumulated from others, and you should also be aware that back in the day each member was limited to a total of 20 customs maximum INCLUDING custom elements

i'm just looking for answers here, so please don't take any of this personally.
how can i possibly beat an RPier who has been around since "back in the day" when he posses such incredibly OPed? the only way i see here is by whoring my self out for techniques from other members from "back in the day"
the power gap between the two generations was created because of rules like these, and the way i see it is that this rule will only increase it.
the older members will be forced into dropping their creative and well thought techniques and only keep their OPed tech which usually don't even make any sense.
my suggestion:
a lot of you will hate me for saying this but i will say it anyways; i believe the only solution for all of this is that all approved techs would get reevaluated and be forced either be dropped or to be edited, so that there would be one standard for all techniques regardless of their owner's joining date, this way winning battles can only be achieved through skills and strategy and not through OPed jutsu, and most good RPiers i know rarely ever use OPed jutsu even though they posses them, some of them even dislike the use of CJs.
of course such a large scale move would require a lot of work and might give birth to more petition waiting to be signed, and i really don't RP a lot, as a matter of fact i rarely do any RPing, so if there's any flaw's in my suggestion, please point them out for me

btw, i believe i only posses three CJs which a friend of mine offered me without me asking for them, they are three owl summons or something, i can't really remember lol

 

[-Yard-]

NB, I cannot thank you enough for your support and suggestions you've shown me and Yard today. While he created the petition and I created this thread, each end every one of you signatures and comments meant a world to (and I think I speak for both of us) us both. We have reached 100 signatures and the pool gives off an impressive statistic, too.
Thank you, NarutoBase community, you're the best!​

Indeed, when I created the petition I had my doubts about it reaching 100 signatures and the fact that it has shows how well we can all come together and support each other to help make rp better for us all. thank you all very much everyone for your support.

 

[Crocodile]

i'm just looking for answers here, so please don't take any of this personally.
how can i possibly beat an RPier who has been around since "back in the day" when he posses such incredibly OPed? the only way i see here is by whoring my self out for techniques from other members from "back in the day"
the power gap between the two generations was created because of rules like these, and the way i see it is that this rule will only increase it.
the older members will be forced into dropping their creative and well thought techniques and only keep their OPed tech which usually don't even make any sense.
my suggestion:
a lot of you will hate me for saying this but i will say it anyways; i believe the only solution for all of this is that all approved techs would get reevaluated and be forced either be dropped or to be edited, so that there would be one standard for all techniques regardless of their owner's joining date, this way winning battles can only be achieved through skills and strategy and not through OPed jutsu, and most good RPiers i know rarely ever use OPed jutsu even though they posses them, some of them even dislike the use of CJs.
of course such a large scale move would require a lot of work and might give birth to more petition waiting to be signed, and i really don't RP a lot, as a matter of fact i rarely do any RPing, so if there's any flaw's in my suggestion, please point them out for me

btw, i believe i only posses three CJs which a friend of mine offered me without me asking for them, they are three owl summons or something, i can't really remember lol

But in that case wouldn't this rule prevent more OP-ed rper's from being created?

 

[-Yard-]

But in that case wouldn't this rule prevent more OP-ed rper's from being created?

CJ's doesn't make you a great rp'er, strategy does. CJ's and rp is like cheat codes in video games, you can play without them and still have the same game. There's a difference between being op and being good at rp. No one is forcing people to fight those from 1-2 generations ago, I don't see why people are complaining. Fight people of your own level in terms of CJ's and overall use of jutsus if you want to have a good match. But you don't fight a level 50 when you're a level 20. It's common sense. If you want a fair fight against a senior that proves who the better rp'er is, then just say no cj's allowed in the thread, problem solved. But don't go hating on people who have been rp'ing longer and are stronger in terms of cj's and c.e's because of that. Because then you take away what people have worked for and then things like this happen.

This overall sounds like a Naruto character complaining to kishi on why the so6p is so powerful and saying to make him even. In RP, I for one like having the strong rp'ers from a few gens ago, it shows as a comparison between them and yourself and gives some rp'ers something to work for whether the rp'er was good with strategy or just incredibly op. But once again, no ones forcing anyone to fight those guys, so why are people complaining about a power gap? I'm all for certain restrictions that have to be made, but if restrictions like these will be made that start limiting an rp'er more because of some power gap then that's just insane and cruel to those who have rp'ed longer and have what they have from hard work. It's like someone spitting on something you've accomplished, and in an rp like this what you have accomplished does represent individuality and gives everyone in rp something to work for, it's why we have rivals, it makes rp more interesting, some people have rivals who have great cj, great strategy and both. When you take something like cj's away from people, you take a chunk away from rp it'self.

 

[Korra.]

CJ's doesn't make you a great rp'er, strategy does. CJ's and rp is like cheat codes in video games, you can play without them and still have the same game. There's a difference between being op and being good at rp. No one is forcing people to fight those from 1-2 generations ago, I don't see why people are complaining. Fight people of your own level in terms of CJ's and overall use of jutsus if you want to have a good match. But you don't fight a level 50 when you're a level 20. It's common sense. If you want a fair fight against a senior that proves who the better rp'er is, then just say no cj's allowed in the thread, problem solved. But don't go hating on people who have been rp'ing longer and are stronger in terms of cj's and c.e's because of that. Because then you take away what people have worked for and then things like this happen.

This overall sounds like a Naruto character complaining to kishi on why the so6p is so powerful and saying to make him even. In RP, I for one like having the strong rp'ers from a few gens ago, it shows as a comparison between them and yourself and gives some rp'ers something to work for whether the rp'er was good with strategy or just incredibly op. But once again, no ones forcing anyone to fight those guys, so why are people complaining about a power gap? I'm all for certain restrictions that have to be made, but if restrictions like these will be made that start limiting an rp'er more because of some power gap then that's just insane and cruel to those who have rp'ed longer and have what they have from hard work.

Couldnt agree more with the bolded parts. I seen cased where the younger Gen challenge the older Gen and they say everything can be used. Old Gen uses their CJ and win. What happens next Younger gen complains about OP CJ but look at it its their fault for challenging the old gen and saying everything allowed. If the younger gen is gonna challenge and than complain after the fight about CJ they should blame themselves. But I couldn't agree more with Yard when he brought up the part that there is 26 cannon water jutsus. I mean come one just cause people have a more wider access of CJ doesnt mean they are going to use it all in every fight.

Plus people can fight with NO CJ rules or even limit how much CJ a person can use in a fight.

 

[Wesobi]

CJ's doesn't make you a great rp'er, strategy does. CJ's and rp is like cheat codes in video games, you can play without them and still have the same game. There's a difference between being op and being good at rp. No one is forcing people to fight those from 1-2 generations ago, I don't see why people are complaining. Fight people of your own level in terms of CJ's and overall use of jutsus if you want to have a good match. But you don't fight a level 50 when you're a level 20. It's common sense. If you want a fair fight against a senior that proves who the better rp'er is, then just say no cj's allowed in the thread, problem solved. But don't go hating on people who have been rp'ing longer and are stronger in terms of cj's and c.e's because of that. Because then you take away what people have worked for and then things like this happen.

@ Bolded: Then why so much fuss about keeping ALL the CJ's everyone has acquired? It's not like you use ALL your CJ's anyways. You yourself state that you only use 3-4 CJ's in a fight, Yard, so 70 CJ's should be enough to fit into your way of fighting right?

 

[Typhon]

And here I thought the purpose of the CJs were to try and make techniques that fit your style and make stuff that makes you unique.

Boy was I mistaken. O_O

 

[XZA]

And here I thought the purpose of the CJs were to try and make techniques that fit your style and make stuff that makes you unique.

Boy was I mistaken. O_O

what the guy with the gay drug dealer looking person for an avatar said...

 

[-Yard-]

@ Bolded: Then why so much fuss about keeping ALL the CJ's everyone has acquired? It's not like you use ALL your CJ's anyways. You yourself state that you only use 3-4 CJ's in a fight, Yard, so 70 CJ's should be enough to fit into your way of fighting right?

"Take a look at the technique list, There used to be 42 water techniques in the old list, now C rank has 26 techniques alone. Is anyone ever going to use all of those techniques in one battle? Hell no, but it's nice to have the option to. This doesn't mean we should restrict how many cannon techs someone can learn does it? This doesn't mean we should restrict how man elements a sensei can teach. Just let us have the customs we have, it doesn't hurt anyone." Variety makes rp better.

 

[Nexus]

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