Suggestion: Remove the Custom Jutsu Limit

[ZK]

If i recall, mods dont tell us what to use in a fight, nor how many times, in the CJ thread we decide the # of times...and yes in a certain way is correct.

why want more than 70 CJ? that is already a big number...

If you don't want them then that's fine ^_^ But some people would like more customs, some because they want more options or more diversity in a fight, some for their own reasons. Some people don't get showered with Canon abilities and therefore base their fighting style on the usage of customs. The diversity that comes with them can sometimes save you where Canon techniques cannot. This is especially so because most Canon techniques are merely frontal assaults, whereas customs are more indirect.
Taijutsu and Kenjutsu especially is dominated by customs here on NB, because there are no real techniques in the Narutoverse, nothing that can match the awesomness of the custom styles anyway. Do you know how many techniques it takes to create a good and all-around Taijutsu or Kenjutsu style? 5? 6? That's a lot of customs just for that and they arne't very useful in battles where Ninjutsu is allowed, though KeotsuEclipse has come very close to creating Kenjutsu that can fight on par with Ninjutsu. But again, it requires a large amount of techniques.

@ Bolded: Are you serious? Do you approve your own customs?

 

[The Riddlerr]

I have to agree with the OP on this matter - Even though I'm only new, it still makes no sense to limit the amount of CJ a person is allowed to have. I could somewhat understand if you were to limit the amount of CJ a person could use in a fight... But not overall because some people have taken great pride into their CJ's.

As for those whom are for limiting - It's understandable that some of you want it approved so you don't look as weak next to the senior Rper's... But isn't that the point of RP? Whether they have 500 Customs or 5 Customs... No matter how it is, you're still going to be weak compared to them until you train up.

I plan on creating my own custom fighting styles for both Taijutsu and Kenjutsu... That is partly the reason I want it approved, however another reason comes from the creative aspect which has been mentioned in earlier posts. Some people may actually enjoy creating custom techniques... But what many people may or may not realize is that, just because they have a Custom technique approved, it doesn't mean they're going to use all of those techniques.

To be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing that 3 CJ's a week rule removed either - But that's another discussion for another day.

 

[Selendrile]

Obviously moderators see that an overwhelming majority don't like any of the new rules.

If you're trying to fix RP, you're doing a fine job of trying to kill it in the process.

I support having no limit.

 

[Zoro..]

I personally for one am neutral on the matter torn between sides.
My suggestion is to have no limit, and that you can have as many CJs as you wish to have your fun in the Role Playing system, however dont call on the mods for trying to kill the RP. However something I would like to say is 70 CJ is a ton. I think there should be a maximum of CJ that can be given to you but no maximum that you can create. Thus you can be as creative as you wish submitting up to three customs a week but you cant be social and just take everyones customs. My suggestion would be a limit of like 100 customs that people can give you (This is a lot in my opinion).
Also to everyone with or against this, if you dont like Customs in fights you can make the rules to have them on or off. However in tournaments it is preferable for me if customs arent allowed for the sole reason of skill level. When I fight someone I want it to come down more to skill like chess instead of who has the most OP custom techniques.

Thats my opinion...

 

[Alucard]

you make it sound like making useful or strong CJ is easy as making instant noodles.

i am not fan of CJs, but i disagree with limitation of them


BUT, i would like to point out something completely different, here it is:

RESTRICT TO HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU CAN GIVE 1 CJ


that is something completely different and would be more logical, Kakashi taught Chidori only to 1 person, Sasuke

Finally, someone who actually tries to help, by suggesting something by taking both sides into account and not just complain. Meh, i'll think of something to reply and post it later as i'm a little busy at the moment.

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and btw, +300? LOL. Sure. I'm for a 1500 CJ limit. Let's give it a try and see how it works.

 

[ZK]

Finally, someone who actually tries to help, by suggesting something by taking both sides into account and not just complain. Meh, i'll think of something to reply and post it later as i'm a little busy at the moment.

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and btw, +300? LOL. Sure. I'm for a 1500 CJ limit. Let's give it a try and see how it works.

Hmm, Mig's suggestion is actually quite okay, but, like I wrote to him, how would you regulate it in regards to customs that have already been traded long ago?

 

[Scorps]

you make it sound like making useful or strong CJ is easy as making instant noodles.

i am not fan of CJs, but i disagree with limitation of them


BUT, i would like to point out something completely different, here it is:

RESTRICT TO HOW MANY PEOPLE YOU CAN GIVE 1 CJ


that is something completely different and would be more logical, Kakashi taught Chidori only to 1 person, Sasuke

I like this suggestion actually. A good idea. And the only one who tried to find an alternative. Cool ^^​

 

[Typhon]

I've always been a fan of having to actually teach your CJs, that way people won't be just giving people access to their entire threads. D

 

[Scarface]

I personally dont see why the staff didnt just leave it alone the way it was. This is how these games die. Over regulation and micro managing. You guys couldnt just leave well enough alone, and now youve got the n00bs crying. Wtf guys?

Poor little n00bs *sniff*

I for one am against the 70 rule. However, I dont think im really in a position to care. As I have very few of my own customs. And really only care to continuously possess Hasashi's o.o and probably a few others. So now ill go and comply with the rule for now by making a new customs thread...

But know this you blue named people O_O I make this thread with extreme prejudice....

 

[-Yard-]

Thank you Zero for making this thread. I would have after I made the petition but it's hard to explain certain things and you are a lot better at it than me. As for now the petition has 96 people and just needs 4 more votes. ^^

Also, I had mentioned to Nexus yesterday about how they should have just limited how many you can trade a cj to instead of this but never got an answer. =/

I don't completely agree to that but it is a lot better than stripping people of several cj's (Not that it wouldn't anyways but it would just be a little less). I'm against anything that limits freedom in any way.

 

[House]

In my experience throughout the rp, I had never experienced an opponent who had just made up a jutsu and had attacked or defended against any of my moves. I had never seen such an incident occur, nor I ever heard of. In my opinion, this is a waste of time and a complete nonsense.

Dr. House

 

[The Riddlerr]

That's because they can't just make up jutsu on the spot.

 

[Kagutsuchi]

Shit -.-, I voted Wrong.
I was so in a hurry. When I saw I don't want 7p Cj rule, I clicked it. =\ and didn't see REMOVED.
FUUUUUU

Well I am against it. I want rule removed.

 

[ZK]

In my experience throughout the rp, I had never experienced an opponent who had just made up a jutsu and had attacked or defended against any of my moves. I had never seen such an incident occur, nor I ever heard of. In my opinion, this is a waste of time and a complete nonsense.

Dr. House

Wat?

Shit -.-, I voted Wrong.
I was so in a hurry. When I saw I don't want 7p Cj rule, I clicked it. =\ and didn't see REMOVED.
FUUUUUU

Well I am against it. I want rule removed.

Well, that's two missclicks xd
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So, the poll results are really like this:
I want the 70-rule removed: 32
I don't want the 70-rule removed: 8
Thanks for your support everybody!

 

[Toshiro]

The results are like this 3:1
So basically everyone is against the rule.-.
Which is good ^_^
Cuz the ish needs changing .-.

 

[-Kenshin-]

I agree with this on some points buti also disagree I don't think 70 is a good point to limit it at seeing how many member have over 200 but this being said they should restrict it and some point have 200 hundred custom jutsus is way to many for one memeber to own so maybe raise the limit to 100 or something like that me myself I own 12 CJ's and have some from others but I would like to have more I had read a similar thingd from another memeber who's againist this and he made a I wouldn't say valid point but a good one he said if Kakashi can have over one thousand jutsus then why can't we there are some memebers that have that goal in RP to be like Kakashi so I say lift the 70 limit and raise it higher while still limiting it at the same time

As for Scorps I don't hold you in anyway responisble for this and never will ​

 

[-Yard-]

To those that are for the cj restriction and hate members having "over powered techniques" or "So many cj's it makes them practically invulnerable". Theres a simple solution that goes with your opinion. Just start fighting with "No cj's allowed" as a rule in your threads. And if anyone disagrees with that, saying "I like using cj's but I don't want my opponent to have access to more than me" then think about how that sounds for a second.

Also, cj's are for creativity and fun purposes, when that is restricted, you basically come off as saying you are against fun and creativity. Even tho I myself don't depend on cj's in matches unless I'm going against my rival to an all out fight knowing how difficult it is to fight him, it adds a lot of fun to that fight. (My rival being Dan aka The pervy Sage) And even then I probably will only use 3-4 cj's (Depending on how long the fight is, sometimes we fight for 50-70 pages)

 

[RokuNR]

This may be simply my opinion, but to having 70 customs allowed you from others is a very generous amount. That is, in essence, 105 customs total available for use per each members, including individually made customs. If you're suggesting it's unfair for us to restrict having people (try not to take offense to this next part) ***** themselves out for techniques created by other people because it somehow "limits individuality," then I believe the growth and development of the RP has really spoiled many of the members here. You say that back in the day, there were no restrictions, but back in the day, people had enough integrity not to hoard 300 customs accumulated from others, and you should also be aware that back in the day each member was limited to a total of 20 customs maximum INCLUDING custom elements (which members could only use 1 of, by the way). I'm not posting to represent the moderator community with this post, as it can be seen as rather unprofessional. My commentary on the matter reflects my own views on question of custom usage. Honestly, if you can't live with the current restrictions, which are EXTREMELY generous already, you should not blame the system. Discontent with not having more than the already allowed 35 basic customs plus 12 Customs PER Custom Element, Kekei Genkai/Clan abilities, Special Bio abilities, and 70 Customs from others is naught short of greed, in my honest opinion.

I'm honestly surprised that anyone could have over 70 regular custom jutsu at all. Deplore me if you will, but possessing other people's customs does not reflect on your individuality, as those customs are not your creations. I wish you all could see how fortunate you are.

EDIT: For the record, I'm rather indifferent to the restriction or unrestriction of given custom techniques. I'm just appalled that people suddenly start to whine because "their creativity" is being taken away, despite given techniques not actually being a result of the receiving member's so-called "creativity."

 

[XZA]

i voted wrong aswell -.-

i want rule removed( even though i have less than 20 customs )

 

[JojocIaw]

Or we could just rebuild the RP System from the ground up again. Start fresh. That way everyone is on par with each other and restrictions. No more arguing.

Although many people would probably bitch and leave.

Dont take me serious though. That wasn't even a real suggestion.

Real suggestion: Allow Custom Jutsu creators to allow up to 3 people to use their custom jutsu. The amount of CJ's you can allow to be borrowed is 5.

Basically:

Jutsu #1 1,2,3
Jutsu #2 1,2,3
Jutsu #3 1,2,3
Jutsu #4 1,2,3
Jutsu #5 1,2,3

or somewhere along those lines. >__<