But is it 100% fact that Kishi has changed his mind? No. Is it 100% fact that whatever Kishi says about Naruto is fact? Yes. Did Kishi state, multiple times may I add, that Hiruzen was the strongest Hokage? Yes. Therefore, is it fact that Hiruzen was the strongest Hokage? Yes.
Where did I ever say he was wrong? Didn't I just say that it's possible that Kishi may have changed his mind on who he thought was the strongest hokage? Do you even read?
Did Kishi state Minato was unsurpassable? Yes. Did Kishi state Hashirama's power was a fairy tale just like the so6p? Yes. Both statements contradict Hiruzen being the strongest hokage. Both statements came in part 2 and has Hiruzen been mentioned in part 2? No.
The thing is, I'm not going based on my opinion. :shrug: If Kishimoto says for over a decade the Hiruzen is the strongest, I think it's obvious that's true. U_U Hashirama's power wasn't compared to the So6P. Kabtuo said that Hashirama's supposed strength was regarded as a myth like the So6P was. Not that he was as strong, but that his mythical strength was every bit as much as regarded as a fairy tale as the existence of the So6P.
But why would he after a decade of saying otherwise go "Eh, Imma change this". Especially when he's jut been expanding on Hashirama's strength. If he ever makes a statement that Hashirama is greater, then we can talk about him changing his mind.
Yet Hiruzen's supposed great power hasn't been mentioned once in part 2. Hashirama and Minato have been the ones who've received the insane hype in part 2, which is where my opinion on Kishi changing his mind comes from.
He says it multiple times in all 3 databooks, the last of which came out directly after Jiraiya's death.
Stated in the 3rd DB, but otherwise you're correct. However, that's rather shallow when you consider that Hiruzen doesn't have an integral part in the story while Hashirama does, so it's rather obvious who's strength is going to get the focus.
And you're acting like an author would just change something he stated without a shadow of a doubt for over a decade. An author wouldn't simply change that for seemingly no reason.
No, A said that and Kabuto said that. Kabuto and Iruka both said Hiruzen was the strongest Hokage. Therefore, there's no point in trying to tell me what characters in the Manga have said when other characters have contradicted this.
If you don't believe me, i'm the 4th comment:
I only recall it being stated in the first 2 databooks. I've read all 3 databooks and I didn't see Hiruzen being called the strongest hokage at all in there.
And Kishi's the one speaking through both characters and as I said both statements contradict Hiruzen being the strongest hokage.
exactly lol, this happens all the time. They have a right to reconsider things within the story and it doesnt always have to be stated.
I typically request direct, literal translations from Narutopedia's translator. I'll go ask him, since that's where I got the translations I posted earlier.
Hence me saying it's a contradiction giving more evidence to my point that Kishi may have changed his mind. There's no absolute fact on who's the strongest hokage because every statement in the manga about it has been contradicted one way or another.
Yes but this is just your interpretation of what they've said. 'Minato is unsurpassable'. It doesn't necessarily mean he was stronger than Hiruzen. It may mean shinobi nowadays just won't reach that level.
The databook also says amaterasu is as hot as the sun, is it? No, or else it would kill anyone right away after hitting them and it hasn't. In the description about susanoo it says it comes with the yata mirror and sword of totsuka, does it? No.
