Clearing up the confusion on who the strongest Hokage is......

[Owarij]

hashirama > every other hokage until proven with solid facts, not some bs assumption based off of wat iruka has said . hiruzens prime has never been shown so you can not say hes the strongest hokage .
the granny toads and tsunade thought naruto had surpassed minato and jiraiya wen he defeated pain .. but did he really ? of course not . so until weve actually seen something of hiruzens prime, no he is not the strongest

by your logic

ten ten > white fang..

i mean hey... hype means nothing, he was called a genius and was respected as much as sannin... he was feared by other ninja villages..

but unless we have solid facts, ten ten > him right?

cool cool... i gotcha man

 

[Easyfathom]

I feel you man! I would put Hiruzen above Minato, but I can't get over the fact then the 1st formed the leaf... To me that kinda just puts him at top

You need to slow down on NB I can't + rep you enough xD

 

[Hexuze]

fu.cking finally....
Nice bro

 

[PainIsGod]

It may not be unbeatable but do you know of someone defeated it? It may not also be as good as creation of all things or Izanagi but it is very effective in battle. In a battle, the winner can't be determined by just looking at techs being so powerful but rather how a tech can be used effectively and Minato proved that already in the 3rd shinobi war. If we'll do simple math, then the average time he needs to defeat those 50 shinobi's is 6-8 millisecond. That's 6-8/1000 of a second.

Every powerful jutsu's consumes a great amount of chakra and I know that you know that. Now, name one powerful jutsu that can penetrate Minato S/T techs? Think this way...if Kurama was 100 times bigger than a human (which I doubt) and it costs Minato 50% of his chakra (just assuming) to teleport Kurama, then he can teleport a human 200 times!! How many times can a shinobi used powerful jutsu until he runs out of chakra? 100x? 200x? I don't think so. This is how I look every battle because Minato had the advantage in terms of speed, chakra consumption, intelligence, and techs.

your obviously a minato fanboy so i guess trying to explain to you minato is not stronger than hiruzen is out of the question

 

[Viewtiful]

Did someone really say that B pointing his katana at Minato "countered" FTG? LOL. That's rich. Really.

Other than Hiruzen being the strongest, no one can say with certainty that one of the other Hokage is the 2nd best, or worse than the others...except for Tsunade.

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[Owarij]

Did someone really say that B pointing his katana at Minato "countered" FTG? LOL. That's rich. Really.

Other than Hiruzen being the strongest, no one can say with certainty that one of the other Hokage is the 2nd best, or worse than the others...except for Tsunade.

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Did b not stop/halt minato's attack?

good- the attack was countered

If its english you failed to grasp , here are definitons of the word..

Counter-
A blow given while parrying; a counterpunch

antagonistic: indicating opposition or resistance

anticipate: act in advance of; deal with ahead of time​

and the manga pic

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[Viewtiful]

Did b not stop/halt minato's attack?

good- the attack was countered

Um, no. If Minato wanted to kill him, he would have done it the instant he appeared there. If you read the chapter, you'll see it was an obvious threat to A, since Minato was trying to leave after they received the signal to retreat, but as A said "You think you can feed us a bunch of nonsense and walk away?!".
As the 3rd databook says, FTG allowed Minato to kill thousands of Iwagakure ninja in literally less than a second and win whatever battle that was. He could have done it to B, but as he said, he was someone he really admired and didn't have any real intention to kill.

 

[Urda]

Agree to some extent. But I see:

1. The First Hokage
2. The Second Hokage
3. The Fourth Hokage/The Third Hokage (Prime)
4. The Third Hokage
5. Tsunade

The "Prime" Third Hokage could be equal to the strength of Minato because of his Hype for knowing all the Jutsu in Konoha. Minato's FTG would be the strength of Minato, but his overall abilities in battle feats can't compare to the Second Hokage's. I would consider the First Hokage in the league of his own being that his hype is still undetermined from unconfirmed information throughout the Manga/Anime.

 

[Owarij]

Um, no. If Minato wanted to kill him, he would have done it the instant he appeared there. If you read the chapter, you'll see it was an obvious threat to A, since Minato was trying to leave after they received the signal to retreat, but as A said "You think you can feed us a bunch of nonsense and walk away?!".
As the 3rd databook says, FTG allowed Minato to kill thousands of Iwagakure ninja in literally less than a second and win whatever battle that was. He could have done it to B, but as he said, he was someone he really admired and didn't have any real intention to kill.

da fuq? what part of that manga scenario do you see minato being able to kill B?

he cut off his tentacle.. tagged him , and the one ftg attack he was about to do FAILED because it would of resulted in them both dead...

Please gtfo if you are going to compare iwagakure fodder ninjas to bee and A

 

[Viewtiful]

da fuq? what part of that manga scenario do you see minato being able to kill B?

he cut off his tentacle.. tagged him , and the one ftg attack he was about to do FAILED because it would of resulted in them both dead...

Please gtfo if you are going to compare iwagakure fodder ninjas to bee and A

I'm sorry, but are you being an idiot? If he can kill HUNDREDS of ninja in under a second with FTG, YES he could have killed B. He had a clear opening here, during which several people talked, yet he chose not to take advantage because he had no intention of killing B:

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It was a THREAT to A. He didn't want to kill B obviously, or he would have done it. A was the one who forced the skirmish:

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At least be logical and rational.

 

[Orochimaruwantsyourbody]

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If Minato wasn't going to kill Bee,he wouldn't teleport behind him in the first place,pointing his kunai right to Bee's throat.​

 

[Viewtiful]

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If Minato wasn't going to kill Bee,he wouldn't teleport right behind him in the first place,pointing his kunai right to Bee's throat.​

I don't think you're getting the concept of a threat...
He would have stabbed his brains out the instant he appeared there if he actually wanted to kill him. I don't see why that isn't blatantly obvious to some of you.

 

[Owarij]

I don't think you're getting the concept of a threat...
He would have stabbed his brains out the instant he appeared there if he actually wanted to kill him. I don't see why that is blatantly obvious.

No he wouldn't have , because the KUNAI/katana was ALWAYS there.. since the moment he teleported... look at bees hand... -_-, minato saw the kunai and stopped

 

[Viewtiful]

No he wouldn't have , because the KUNAI/katana was ALWAYS there.. since the moment he teleported... look at bees hand... -_-, minato saw the kunai and stopped

And why the hell wouldn't he have? You're saying Minato wouldn't have killed B because B had his katana out? Who do think is going to react faster, the guy that just teleported in a way that his seeming victim couldn't react to because it's instantaneous, or the victim themselves? Minato stopped the instant he got there. He never made any motion indicating he was about to take B out. If you get the concept of something moving "instantly", you'll see why B would have been helpless if Minato was actually trying to take him out.

 

[Orochimaruwantsyourbody]

I don't think you're getting the concept of a threat...
He would have stabbed his brains out the instant he appeared there if he actually wanted to kill him. I don't see why that isn't blatantly obvious to some of you.

I'll take you out too if you follow through
You stab me,I stab you!

Minato commended Bee's counterattack,that doesn't take back that he wanted to finish him off initially.

Bee already anticipated FTG.I don't see why that isn't blatantly obvious to some of you. ​

 

[Viewtiful]

Minato commended Bee's counterattack,that doesn't take back that he wanted to finish him off initially.

Bee already anticipated FTG.I don't see why that isn't blatantly obvious to some of you. ​

Erm, he didn't anticipate it. Hence his look of surprise and shock, and his sweat. No one saw him place the seal mark on the tentacle.

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And as I said, he would have killed him the moment he appeared there. Do you know what happened instead? The guy next to B started talking and it panned over to A looking pissed and nervous. It's stretching the fabric of logic to say that Minato wanted to kill him, yet despite the fact that he had a good 5 seconds to do so while he had the element of surprise, with a kunai right next to B's head, yet didn't do it. That's what I'm referring to as being blatantly obvious.

 

[Marios]

ehm For someone who was supposed to know 1000 jutsus he clearly hadn't shown very impressive ones. *sarcasm*

At the end of the day it was Minato's sealing jutsu which saved Konoha from Orochimaru.

 

[Orochimaruwantsyourbody]

Erm, he didn't anticipate it. Hence his look of surprise and shock, and his sweat. No one saw him place the seal mark on the tentacle.

Yes he do.He himself knows that he was tagged.The katana's orientation reinforces this.​

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And as I said, he would have killed him the moment he appeared there.

Bee was aware of that.Again,he prepared the katana for that reason.​

 

[Viewtiful]

Yes he do.He himself knows that he was tagged.The katana's orientation reinforces this.​

NO he didn't. He would have been that shocked if he did. Hence the look on his face and the sweat. You don't do that if you supposedly know what happened.

Bee was aware of that.Again,he prepared the katana for that reason.​

He was aware of someone moving instantaneous. Yes, that makes perfect sense. /sarcasm It's far more likely that he simply repositioned the katana. And again, the parts of my posts that are more or less irrefutable are ignored because no one can!!111(one) /kind-of-fake-rage xd

Namely, everyone that says Minato supposedly wanted to kill B despite the evidence contrary has ignore what I've said about that.

 

[tracytracy22]

Is it true that hiruzen could counter all jutsu in konoha??? Thats what a lot of people have been saying, and have said it was in the databook entry which I cannot find.

If its true, then wouldn't he know how to counter to the ftg technique? He does know all jutsu in konoha so it wouldn't suprise me if he can come up with an appropriate counter! And wouldn't hiruzen know more about minato and his techniques, then minato would know about hiruzen?