Why cant some of you understand Kakashi and Gai>Most of Akatsuki

ganotsri

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no Akatuki fans??? why no one counter any more?
So I would add Kakuzu to those with eyes. 5 personalties with abilities to 5 elements and only Kakashi and Gai, is too much for them.
 

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let's face it, Kakashi and Gai are overall stronger than most of Akatsuki. The only Akatsuki members who are stronger than them are Sasuke/Tobi/Nagato/Itachi.

I'll try to keep this short.

Kakashi and Gai move at 300KM/H. Akatsuki don't.

Akatsuki got shat on by the likes of Sakura/Kankuro etc etc Even when they were revived, lmao.

While Kakashi and Gai have been fighting in this war for over 24 hours, defeated most of the swordsman (granted only kisame's mentor and zabuza was on panel)did well against mulitple V2 BIJUU OPPONENTS. The same bijuu which were overwhelming Naruto and Bee. Cut through the shroud.

All this and they havn't even used their strongest moves (Kamui and 8 gates)

Overall, they have better feats. They have better hype.

Kakashi has low chakra? Misconception, only infants believe this these days. Even against Kakazu the man used 6 raikiri/suitons etc etc RAIKIRI REQUIRES A HEFTY AMOUNT OF CHAKRA. He doesn't have amazing chakra, but now "low." Not to mention his stamina seems better these days, especially in this war. Him not being an Uchiha means the sharingan drains him than more, but to keep it active for SO LONG is amazing.

he's kept the sharingan active for over 24 hours in the war, and all this and he still had to energy to use kamui? Wtf is this shit, if he had an uchiha body he would be stronger than Itachi since he wouldn't suffer from the drawbacks using Kamui.

Gai only has taijutsu so he sucks? Hell no, the guy defeated Kisame and he still the last gate in reserve which was stated by Kakashi to surpass the kages in power for a short while.
"Kakashi and Gai move at 300KM/H. Akatsuki don't." - WHAT ?

"Akatsuki got shat on by the likes of Sakura/Kankuro etc etc Even when they were revived, lmao." - no, Sasori was defeated by the best possible matchup he could have gotten...and he still would have won if not for his sudden change of heart. And Kankuro defeat the weakest version of Sasori since ... ever ... mostly because he didn't have ANY puppets. Learn your facts please.

"While Kakashi and Gai have been fighting in this war for over 24 hours, defeated most of the swordsman (granted only kisame's mentor and zabuza was on panel)did well against mulitple V2 BIJUU OPPONENTS. The same bijuu which were overwhelming Naruto and Bee. Cut through the shroud." - it wasn't just Kakashi and Gai you know...

"All this and they havn't even used their strongest moves (Kamui and 8 gates)" - Kakashi probably used Kamui already but Gai will die if he uses his strongest move.

"Overall, they have better feats. They have better hype." - this isn't even a valid point

"Kakashi has low chakra?" - not really ... but lower than Akatsuki level.

"he's kept the sharingan active for over 24 hours in the war" - his sharingan is always active

"Gai only has taijutsu so he sucks? Hell no, the guy defeated Kisame and he still the last gate in reserve which was stated by Kakashi to surpass the kages in power for a short while." - exactly...for a short while...and then he dies.

Kakashi and Gai are strong...but not as strong as you have them to be
 

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"Kakashi and Gai move at 300KM/H. Akatsuki don't." - WHAT ?
this was obviously a joke, but watch the video.

Sasori was defeated by the best possible matchup he could have gotten...
What are you smoking? If you consider Sakura and a old lady the best possible matchup you've lost all credibility.

and he still would have won if not for his sudden change of heart. And Kankuro defeat the weakest version of Sasori since ... ever ... mostly because he didn't have ANY puppets. Learn your facts please.
Doesn't change the fact that he got shat on/trolled etc

- it wasn't just Kakashi and Gai you know...
A lot of it was.

Kakashi probably used Kamui already but Gai will die if he uses his strongest move.
Nothing to suggest he used it, he only uses it in very bad situations. Your claim is baseless. Yeah Gai will die, doesn;t make him any weaker though.

"Overall, they have better feats. They have better hype." - this isn't even a valid point
Wait, Kakashi and Gai having better feats isn't a valid point? Please get this horse crap out of here.

"Kakashi has low chakra?" - not really ... but lower than Akatsuki level.
Mind proving Konan has more chakra?

"he's kept the sharingan active for over 24 hours in the war" - his sharingan is always active
active and using it, in the past using it for a few minutes would exhaust him.

- exactly...for a short while...and then he dies.
What's your point? Even without the final gate he defeated Kisame.

Kakashi and Gai are strong...but not as strong as you have them to be
And why is that?
 

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Deidara in a Pinch = suicide bomber, honestly if deidara can be on par with Gaara what makes you think he can be beat so easily by kakashi?
what are u talking about deidera cheated in that fight made gaara choose btw his village and his life.
 

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this was obviously a joke, but watch the video.


What are you smoking? If you consider Sakura and a old lady the best possible matchup you've lost all credibility.
Chyio : the person who had MOST knowledge about Sasori +
Sakura : one of the VERY VERY few shinobi in the naruto world who could create an antidote for Sasori's poison.

Yes, they are the best matchup.

Doesn't change the fact that he got shat on/trolled etc
It kinda does. You need to understand that Sasori without puppets is like an Uchiha without sharingan.

A lot of it was.
Pure assumption, because the fight with the swordsmen hasn't been shown in the manga.

Nothing to suggest he used it, he only uses it in very bad situations. Your claim is baseless. Yeah Gai will die, doesn;t make him any weaker though.
Funny to say that my claim is baseless when you go around suggesting that Kakashi and Gai defeated the swordsmen on their own... And if Gai dies after using his best move, what good is it to compare his best against ALL akatsuki? He can only use that once.

Wait, Kakashi and Gai having better feats isn't a valid point? Please get this horse crap out of here.
Who says they have better feats? I really don't get where this biased opinion is coming from.

Mind proving Konan has more chakra?
Konan vs Tobi ... should be enough proof.

active and using it, in the past using it for a few minutes would exhaust him.
When in the past? Cause even against Zabuza the fight lasted longer than a few minutes.

What's your point? Even without the final gate he defeated Kisame.
That was Kisame's most costly mistake, because he assumed Gai would attack him with ninjutsu. And after that Gai was down as well and even Konohamaru could have killed him.


And why is that?
You're severly underestimating Akatsuki.
 

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I was just wondering where in the manga was:

"Gai still the last gate in reserve which was stated by Kakashi to surpass the kages in power for a short while."
 

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let's face it, Kakashi and Gai are overall stronger than most of Akatsuki. The only Akatsuki members who are stronger than them are Sasuke/Tobi/Nagato/Itachi.

I'll try to keep this short.

Kakashi and Gai move at 300KM/H. Akatsuki don't.

Akatsuki got shat on/trolled by the likes of Sakura/Kankuro etc etc Even when they were revived, lmao.

While Kakashi and Gai have been fighting in this war for over 24 hours, defeated most of the swordsman (granted only kisame's mentor and zabuza was on panel)did well against mulitple V2 BIJUU OPPONENTS. The same bijuu which were overwhelming Naruto and Bee. Cut through the shroud.

All this and they havn't even used their strongest moves (Kamui and 8 gates)

Overall, they have better feats. They have better hype.

Kakashi has low chakra? Misconception, only infants believe this these days. Even against Kakazu the man used 6 raikiri/suitons etc etc RAIKIRI REQUIRES A HEFTY AMOUNT OF CHAKRA. He doesn't have amazing chakra, but now "low." Not to mention his stamina seems better these days, especially in this war. Him not being an Uchiha means the sharingan drains him than more, but to keep it active for SO LONG is amazing.

he's kept the sharingan active for over 24 hours in the war, and all this and he still had to energy to use kamui? Wtf is this shit, if he had an uchiha body he would be stronger than Itachi since he wouldn't suffer from the drawbacks using Kamui.

Gai only has taijutsu so he sucks? Hell no, the guy defeated Kisame and he still the last gate in reserve which was stated by Kakashi to surpass the kages in power for a short while.
Kakashi nearly died against the 5 hearth Guy, if Naruto had not arrive in time to save Him Ino and the rest. You are under estimating the organization and over estimating Kakashi abilities.
 

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Let me see...

Kakashi could beat...Hidan, Deidara, Sasori ( hey, he'd react better than Chiyo/Sakura because of the sharingan ) and perhaps Kakuzu.

Gai, could probably defeat, Hidan and Deidara.
He only beat Kisame without Kisame even using his full power ( with Samehada ).

But we could safely assume Pain, Tobi, Itachi, Kisame and Konan would destroy them.

Yes Konan too. She's the only one who has ever done that much damage to Tobi.
 

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I pretty much agree...Gai did take out Kisame after all..one of the strongest Akatuski members. Kakashi...ehhh...hes pretty strong if it wasn't for his baby chakra reserves..
 
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