Brucewen001
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Wtffffffffffffffff???????? No free manga at all??
I disagreeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I disagreeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ACTA (European SOPA)!
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The Doctor
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IT isn't the European SOPA. It's the GLOBAL SOPA. Anyone who signs the treaty becomes a part of it. The USA signed it back in October of 2011.
I hope my country doesn't sign it, though since it's a weak-political country, I'm sure Europe will make it sign the ACTA! Somebody must do something about this, otherwise, internet and a lot of our hobbies connected to it will be gone. If they're taking our freedom of speech, where's democracy then?
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Some of the information that's listed here makes no sense...for people to be charged for everything they do on the internet...most businesses don't want that because it's much more cost effective for them to sell their stuff online than in the stores, if people get charged simply to use the internet to go to various websites a good amount of people wouldn't bother to shop online anymore
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Capitalism.
1.There are many 'main' differences, but I guess the most important one is that in communism private ownership is not allowed while in democracy it is allowed. Also, in communist ideology it's the government/society/classless community that holds the means of production instead of the upper classes. (Upper in either financial or 'nobility' terms.)
2. Between Nazism and Democracy, apart from contrary opposing ideologies, the main difference is the military political model vs. the public voice rules through the election of representatives.
And btw, according to Plato, democracy is an illusion.
USA has never been an ideal of democracy, but rather of a capitalist society.
Capitalism.
1.There are many 'main' differences, but I guess the most important one is that in communism private ownership is not allowed while in democracy it is allowed. Also, in communist ideology it's the government/society/classless community that holds the means of production instead of the upper classes. (Upper in either financial or 'nobility' terms.)
2. Between Nazism and Democracy, apart from contrary opposing ideologies, the main difference is the military political model vs. the public voice rules through the election of representatives.
And btw, according to Plato, democracy is an illusion.
USA has never been an ideal of democracy, but rather of a capitalist society.
Actually I agree with that saying of Plato, democracy can never guaranteed 100 %.
What you're saying about USA may be true, but that's what at least a lot of people tell us here, THAT USA is where you can live without anything to worry about, where democracy flourishes ! But I guess all of these were lies!
That's not what Rei said.
There is no Democracy, ever, not even 1% traces of it, you are being controlled by an invisible hand at all items, you have no will, you are nothing but a money producing machine for the government.
As for Ideal governments, Communism was by far the best, it's leaders though, had one fatal error, they were humans, and humans commit gluttony 24/7.
Let me tell you what you will never hear from a US patriot, the US, is in fact, Doomed.
The only thing literally saving that country is the same thing that informs the rest of the world of it's necessity, merely an illusion, the US makes people think they are required.
Now, about the whole ACTA thingy, no matter how derived of freedoms me shall be, humans always fight for freedom of action and speech in one way or another, if this Law is put into action Worldwide, the same people who started it will be hunted down one by one, because when you take away the only primal right from people, and they become aware of that, the consequences are devastating.
Those were my 2 cents.
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first of all, can i ask where here is?
second of all, democracy is just the largest scam in human history, the only thing the french revelation taught the rulers is to stay hidden as corporations and make the people believe that they are the one's choosing their presidents, except they only get to choose from a variety of corporate puppets, and when the people get pissed off they rage on their puppet government instead of the real cause of their problems, the occupy wall-street movement remains a beacon of light imo, because it shows that people are starting to realize who the puppeteers are, you can see that they are scared by the way they covered up for it and tried their best to stain it with lies using the media
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1.ACTA was made in 2004 and failed
2. in 2007 it failed again
3.ACTA bill never before had anything to do with charging
Itachilover94
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copy of the email sent from: info@fightforthefuture
Hi--
Together, we beat SOPA in a huge victory for internet freedom. But this Saturday, internet freedom protests are breaking out in over 200 cities across Europe. Why?
Because the companies behind SOPA are using international trade agreements as a backdoor to pass SOPA-style laws
SOPA's supporters are pushing two agreements: ACTA and TPP1. ACTA would criminalize users, encourage internet providers to spy on you, and make it easier for media companies to sue sites out of existence and jail their founders. Sound familiar? That's right, ACTA is from the same playbook as SOPA, but global. Plus it didn't even have to pass through Congress2.
TPP goes even farther than ACTA, and the process has been even more secretive and corrupt. Last weekend (we wish this was a joke) trade negotiators partied with MPAA (pro-SOPA) lobbyists before secret negotiations in a Hollywood hotel, while public interest groups were barred from meeting in the same building.3
Trade agreements are a gaping loophole, a secretive backdoor track that--even though it creates new laws--is miles removed from democracy. Trade negotiators are unelected and unaccountable, so these agreements have been very hard for internet rights groups to stop.
But now the tide is turning. Fueled by the movement to stop SOPA, anti-ACTA protests are breaking out across the EU, which hasn't ratified ACTA. The protests are having an impact: leaders in Poland, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia have backtracked on ACTA.4 Now a massive round of street protests in over 200 cities is planned for this Saturday February 11th.
We're planning an online protest this Saturday to support the protests in the streets. Why? Because together we can drive millions of emails to key decision makers--and start tipping the scales like we did on SOPA.
Can you take part? Click here to get the code to run on your site!
killacta.org/#code
We just built an ACTA & TPP contact tool, and it's not just a petition. It's code for your site that figures out the visitor's country and lets them email all their Members of European Parliament--the politicians who will be voting on ACTA in June--or the trade negotiators behind TPP. This direct contact between voters and their officials, driven by websites of all sizes, was instrumental in the fight against SOPA.
We can use the same tactics to defeat ACTA & TPP, but we need your help!
Support the street protests with a flood of emails to the officials responsible for ACTA & TPP. Get the code for your website!
Don't have a website? Tell officials in your country to scrap ACTA & TPP! And spread the word about Saturday's protests!
This is going to be tough fight. But we need to make secretive trade agreements harder to pass than US law. If we don't, our internet's future belongs to the lobbyists behind SOPA.
This is just the beginning,
--Holmes Wilson, Tiffiniy Cheng, Joshua Blount & the whole Fight for the Future team.
P.S. This map of ACTA street protests in Europe is amazing. The largest has almost 50,000 RSVP's!
Sources:
1. For more information on ACTA, read these excellent articles from Techdirt and La Quadrature du Net. For information on TPP, read this Ars Technica piece. For video, watch this.
2. Obama's signing of ACTA may have been unconstitutional. See Anti-counterfeiting agreement raises constitutional concerns and Techdirt.
3. Hollywood gets to party with TPP negotiators, public interest groups get thrown out of the hotel.
4. Ars Technica: Czech, Slovak governments backing away from ACTA, too.
Hi--
Together, we beat SOPA in a huge victory for internet freedom. But this Saturday, internet freedom protests are breaking out in over 200 cities across Europe. Why?
Because the companies behind SOPA are using international trade agreements as a backdoor to pass SOPA-style laws
SOPA's supporters are pushing two agreements: ACTA and TPP1. ACTA would criminalize users, encourage internet providers to spy on you, and make it easier for media companies to sue sites out of existence and jail their founders. Sound familiar? That's right, ACTA is from the same playbook as SOPA, but global. Plus it didn't even have to pass through Congress2.
TPP goes even farther than ACTA, and the process has been even more secretive and corrupt. Last weekend (we wish this was a joke) trade negotiators partied with MPAA (pro-SOPA) lobbyists before secret negotiations in a Hollywood hotel, while public interest groups were barred from meeting in the same building.3
Trade agreements are a gaping loophole, a secretive backdoor track that--even though it creates new laws--is miles removed from democracy. Trade negotiators are unelected and unaccountable, so these agreements have been very hard for internet rights groups to stop.
But now the tide is turning. Fueled by the movement to stop SOPA, anti-ACTA protests are breaking out across the EU, which hasn't ratified ACTA. The protests are having an impact: leaders in Poland, the Czech Republic, and Slovakia have backtracked on ACTA.4 Now a massive round of street protests in over 200 cities is planned for this Saturday February 11th.
We're planning an online protest this Saturday to support the protests in the streets. Why? Because together we can drive millions of emails to key decision makers--and start tipping the scales like we did on SOPA.
Can you take part? Click here to get the code to run on your site!
killacta.org/#code
We just built an ACTA & TPP contact tool, and it's not just a petition. It's code for your site that figures out the visitor's country and lets them email all their Members of European Parliament--the politicians who will be voting on ACTA in June--or the trade negotiators behind TPP. This direct contact between voters and their officials, driven by websites of all sizes, was instrumental in the fight against SOPA.
We can use the same tactics to defeat ACTA & TPP, but we need your help!
Support the street protests with a flood of emails to the officials responsible for ACTA & TPP. Get the code for your website!
Don't have a website? Tell officials in your country to scrap ACTA & TPP! And spread the word about Saturday's protests!
This is going to be tough fight. But we need to make secretive trade agreements harder to pass than US law. If we don't, our internet's future belongs to the lobbyists behind SOPA.
This is just the beginning,
--Holmes Wilson, Tiffiniy Cheng, Joshua Blount & the whole Fight for the Future team.
P.S. This map of ACTA street protests in Europe is amazing. The largest has almost 50,000 RSVP's!
Sources:
1. For more information on ACTA, read these excellent articles from Techdirt and La Quadrature du Net. For information on TPP, read this Ars Technica piece. For video, watch this.
2. Obama's signing of ACTA may have been unconstitutional. See Anti-counterfeiting agreement raises constitutional concerns and Techdirt.
3. Hollywood gets to party with TPP negotiators, public interest groups get thrown out of the hotel.
4. Ars Technica: Czech, Slovak governments backing away from ACTA, too.
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