rasenshuriken VS kirin

[takiscy]

i read some posts....''kirin and he is dead RS needs a lot of time to prepair''....ffs kirin takes the whole episode to be set up and u say that RS is slow? he needs two shadow clones and there u have the RS. also if they clash together i really doubt kirin's power... my money is on RS

 

[MangekyouJ]

Kirin moves at the speed of light
Naruto wouldnt even make a rasenshuriken let alone throw it

Regardless is it does move at the speed of light, if it doesn't hit the right Naruto and only hits a clone...Sasukes' f$%ked....oh and by the way, he does throw it....he even has mini wind rasenshurikens that pull only half of the destructive force of the regular....

Kirin..

And isn't Wind Style weak against Lightnight Style?

Lightning beats Earth, Wind beats Lightning...

so is rasenshuriken .......is on another level ...kidden me....when naruto and sasuke first had they rival battle ...sasuke made chidori naruto made rasengan,,, when they was gonna attack each other kakashi save them both from striking, both of them hit the water tank, sasukes hole from chidori was way smaller than the hole naruto left...naruto regular rasengan was stronger than chidori...my point is this....by the tyme sasuke wants to form thunder clouds to create kirin ....hes dead....you can throw rasenshuriken....destroying the antibody on a celleur level

Agrees....The Rasenshuriken was labeled as a Forbidden jutsu by Tsunade herself because if Naruto didn't have the healing power of the Nine-Tails, he's be without hands...

If Kirin and Rasenshuriken are launched at the same time, then of course Kirin would win. There would be no expansion of the Rasenshuriken and it wouldn't get stronger because it would be colliding with energy, not a physical form. Plus, even if wind is stronger than lightening, it still doesn't negate the fact that Kirin has an energy capacity of billions and billions of joules. Even if they collided, there would be so much energy from the Kirin that it would go right through.

Wrong again....Every scientist knows that everything has to take a physical form...INCLUDING ENERGY to do damage to physical objects otherwise it would be paranormal energy. And you can't quite measure electricity of that compacity correctly...a lightning strike can destroy a concrete building depending on where it hits, (I've personally seen it happen in Afghanistan), the keys in Kirin is prepatory and chakra capacity....so far we've only seen Sasuke use Kirin once and only once for that reason alone. Kirin simply takes too long, while the Rasenshuriken....can be spammed damn near instantly....giving it the win...

Rasenshuriken wins if they battle against each other...

One preparation time for kirin is too long, relies on thunder clouds and requires extensive chakras...Rasenshurikens on the other hand are prepared like rasengans...have some mini variations which are powerful as well...

Agrees with totally...

 

[partha420]

Kirin.

 

[Forget Me Not]

i read some posts....''kirin and he is dead RS needs a lot of time to prepair''....ffs kirin takes the whole episode to be set up and u say that RS is slow? he needs two shadow clones and there u have the RS. also if they clash together i really doubt kirin's power... my money is on RS

Yeah. That's a common misconception in this thread. When they say "Kirin is faster," they mean in terms of the speed of the technique itself, not execution time or speed it takes to prepare the tech in other words. Of course RS has better execution time considering it's a variant of the rasengan which is a jutsu known for portability/speed it takes to bring out the move (which is relatively quick — e.g., the highlighted statement in the manga/anime that Rasengan differs from Chidori since it takes no hand signs to forge the jutsu as opposed to the original Chidori where it was only able to be brought out twice a day maximum varying on the user with casting the tech via hand-signs). But yeah. RS is faster in terms of preparation time. RS, as in the technique speed itself, is virtually the speed of light. Which is faster than the Rasenshuriken.

 

[MangekyouJ]

Ok...time out....let's think about this for a moment....Sage mode is attained by absorbing the earths' natural chakra right?....With that being said....and I just may be a little bit out thinking this....but could Kirin be absorbed? I mean it is a natural element unlike Amataratsu....just thinking out loud.....just sayin...

 

[MangekyouJ]

1. that has nothing to do with this thread
2. that is not a proof to say that rasengan is better than chidori because chidori instantly destroys what it hits it makes instantly a "hole" (and this hole is big as the chidori itself but thst doesnt make it weaker)
Rasengan is whirling the enemy and because of this whirling the body gots whirled too
but the water tank is not a body so it damaged the back bcs of the whirling effect
For example
when sasuke hit naruto with chidori in his chest he would be instantly dead if the kyuubi wouldnt be there to help him
but if naruto would rasengan sasuke, sasuke could still have a chance to be alive
3. i think both are impressivley jutsus
kirin=rasenshuriken

Basically....and I'm kinda agreeing with you...is that it depends on the user...the timing has to be perfectly plan from start to finish....heating the atmosphere from the beginning so it can be used at anytime during the battle period...

 

[Forget Me Not]

Ok...time out....let's think about this for a moment....Sage mode is attained by absorbing the earths' natural chakra right?....With that being said....and I just may be a little bit out thinking this....but could Kirin be absorbed? I mean it is a natural element unlike Amataratsu....just thinking out loud.....just sayin...

No one's really completely sure. But it's pretty doubtful. Kirin is a technique the speed of light. Even if one was capable of absorbing it, would they honestly be given the opportunity considering Kirin's aforementioned speed (essentially the speed of light)? Oh and if Sage Mode's acquired through those means, how in the world does that mean that it's able to absorb an alternative element? I don't really think it can do this. But you could always provide scans from the manga/anime.

 

[MangekyouJ]

It seem you have a caplock problem along with an intelligence problem.I'm not surprise you are a moron, it seem all those arguing for Kirin are.Saying something owns isn't proving anything.The only thing that proves is you are too stupid to actually think up an argument.Also, who has compare Kirin to amaterasu? Kirin and Amaterasu aren't anything a like in damage, prep time, chakra uses, or practicality.Stop pulling stuff out of your ass.Furthermore, who's taking about what jutsu is stronger?The thread is titled rasenshuriken vs kirin and the op imply which jutsu is better.Better doesn't mean which is stronger.It seem you morons actually think this is a thread where it's about smashing the two jutsu in to each other or something as dumb as that.That is not the case.Now read closes you reason for legalize abortion.Rasenshuriken is the better jutsu because of it more practical compare to kirin.Rasenshuriken can be used at any given time, which is not the case with kirin.A jutsu that takes as much prep time as Kirin is useless is nearly every battle.If that wasn't the case, Sasuke would have used Kirin against Deidara or A(Raikage).

"OH AND WHAT DID SASUKE DO DODGE THE RAIKAGE SPEED"

I hope english isn't your first language.

LOL...I'm laughing very heard at this one in particular....the only thing Sasuke did was duck under the raikage when he attacked the 5 kage summit...THAT'S IT...Sasuke would've been killed had it not been for Gaara at that time...so pay that noob no mind...

 

[MangekyouJ]

No one's really completely sure. But it's pretty doubtful. Kirin is a technique the speed of light. Even if one was capable of absorbing it, would they honestly be given the opportunity considering Kirin's aforementioned speed (essentially the speed of light)? Oh and if Sage Mode's acquired through those means, how in the world does that mean that it's able to absorb an alternative element? I don't really think it can do this. But you could always provide scans from the manga/anime.

From what I've seen so far or have been able to read due to my lack of resources where I am. I've seen no such opportunity. And what alternative element are you referring too? Kirin is the guidance of lightning, in which, if I'm wrong somebody please tell me, is in a way a natural element. No it's not one of the four that we see used a lot (Fire, water, air, earth), but it is a natural one nonetheless......just saying....

 

[Hamlet]

I say Rasenshuriken just its quicker to make than Kirin, you cant just summon storm clouds outta no where.

 

[Forget Me Not]

From what I've seen so far or have been able to read due to my lack of resources where I am. I've seen no such opportunity. And what alternative element are you referring too? Kirin is the guidance of lightning, in which, if I'm wrong somebody please tell me, is in a way a natural element. No it's not one of the four that we see used a lot (Fire, water, air, earth), but it is a natural one nonetheless......just saying....

That's what I thought too. And I'm referring to lightning in the purest form -- Kirin. And I mean you said Sage Mode is achieved by absorbing the earth element if I recall correctly. I'm simply asking how does that make Sage Mode able to absorb the lightning element because of this. I mean, this doesn't mean he can magically absorb lightning out of thin air just because he's able to adapt to the earth element (not to mention that earth is highly immune to lightning). At least from my point of view.

 

[DarkPein12]

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[MangekyouJ]

I was thinking just now that if Naruto could combo the Rasenshuriken with FTG....to compensate for it's speed. But if both jutsu's were formed and Kirin was already on it's way down, Naruto still has that Rasenshuriken in his hand....yeah.....I"m gonna give it to the Kirin.

Kakashi is the genuis to cut a lightning bolt with it, so it's all in the reaction...

 

[Eternal Nine Tailed Fox]

3rd Raikage made rasenshurkien look like childs play and Kirin is actual lightning,Kirin FTW

But doesn't wind beat lightning :flaw:

 

[Baka Sennin]

If they are thrown at each other, Kirin is going to win.

but naruto can just throw rasenshuriken at sasuke as he is prepping kirin, and he has to either cancel the tech to dodge or eat a rasenshuriken.

and maybe, a rasenshuriken thrown to the storm clouds will blow them away before kirin can be completed.

on the whole, FRS is the better jutsu

 

[ganotsri]

Manga.
FRS is powerful, but I doubt if it would to able to f*ck up whole mountain like Kirin did.

As FRS was thrown by Naruto during training in the Mt. Miaboku, it had destroyed a half of mount. So made in KM it actually can destroy mountain easily.

 

[rendranojutsu]

by the power, maybe kirin win.

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BUT by the time spent to prepare, RasenganSuriken will beat kirin user before the preparation complete.

moreover, if there is no cloud, the user must create cloud using fire technique first. bothering.

Rasenshuriken is also powerful

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[MangekyouJ]

FRS is powerful, but I doubt if it would to able to f*ck up whole mountain like Kirin did.


As FRS was thrown by Naruto during training in the Mt. Miaboku, it had destroyed a half of mount. So made in KM it actually can destroy mountain easily.

Wrong again....Pa Frog even said so himself; when Naruto was fighting Pain that he'd never seen it during their training on Mt. Moyoibuko. Ma and Pa frog wondered where he'd learn it from because he was solely focused on training to get the natural chakra right and getting it on his own.

Nice try kid....but you might wanna pay a little attention to detail.....just sayin...:no_ignore:

 

[MangekyouJ]

This is just to clarify about the Sage Tech Rasenshuriken...

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.....just sayin.....

 

[ganotsri]

Wrong again....Pa Frog even said so himself; when Naruto was fighting Pain that he'd never seen it during their training on Mt. Moyoibuko. Ma and Pa frog wondered where he'd learn it from because he was solely focused on training to get the natural chakra right and getting it on his own.

Nice try kid....but you might wanna pay a little attention to detail.....just sayin...:no_ignore:

wash your eyes and watch again. He did it by himself, with out Pa, so no one know it except Naruto. I am quite attentive to details. So check before tell.