[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 567 Discussion and 568 Predictions

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I was thinking about the Uchiha massacre... It seems to me that Itachi found out something very very dangerous and terrible so he began a long long plan for that.

What he discovered: the existence of Tobi, which was of incredible strength/ability. Itachi knew at that time that he hadn't the slighest chance neither anyone of the Uchiha to defeat him.

His plan: Since he can't defeat Tobi, he thought to make/educate/prepare the one that will be able to defeat Tobi... and that is Sasuke. Ie: the reason Itachi let sasuke live was so he will get stronger, then he will awaken the MS, then fight Itachi, then take Itachi's eyes.. so what I say is that Itachi planned for Sasuke to take his eyes at the very moment of the Uchiha massacre... so Sasuke defeats Tobi one day.

This reminds me a little to what Minato did when he sealed the Kyubi inside of his son Naruto.. he knew he couldn't win.. he planned and saw that one day Naruto will be strong, control the Kyubi and defeat that one behind the attack. This shows that Itachi/Minato faced the same guy and without even planning this together saw that Sasuke/Naruto will defeat him some day.

About the details of the Uchiha massacre.. The elders, Danzo, the Uchiha's real mentality, etc... I'm sure Kishi has a lot of things to reveal to us.. still..
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"observeANDanalyze" when you say Tobi is Izuna.. I totally agree with you
But when you think he "might" be Obito.. I think you fell in the trap..

The link you posted actually shows he isn't Obito


Cause Minato would certainly have thought about that.. But he only thought about Madara..
and that makes more sense as Tobi being Izuna..

Keep thinking and analyzing.. but please don't fell into some of those traps....... ;)
 
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"observeANDanalyze" when you say Tobi is Izuna.. I totally agree with you
But when you think he "might" be Obito.. I think you fell in the trap..

The link you posted actually shows he isn't Obito


Cause Minato would certainly have thought about that.. But he only thought about Madara..
and that makes more sense as Tobi being Izuna..

Keep thinking and analyzing.. but please don't fell into some of those traps....... ;)
haha im trying not to fall in the obito trap, i dont think it is obito just the link that showed kakashi with no sharigan and then him reacting to tobis sharigan mad me scratch my head hahaha but im still all for izuna........team IZUNA lol
 
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Yep.. Team IZUNA

I think we should make a poll on who Tobi is??

The theories:
-A Zetsu clone
-Madara
-Obito
-Itachi and Sasuke's father
-Some Uzumaki guy
-Son of the SO6P
-And of course IZUNA.. Madara's brother
-Other

The problem is I don't know how to make a Poll thing.. haha..
If someone knows I think that could be cool
 

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"observeANDanalyze" when you say Tobi is Izuna.. I totally agree with you
But when you think he "might" be Obito.. I think you fell in the trap..

The link you posted actually shows he isn't Obito

Cause Minato would certainly have thought about that.. But he only thought about Madara..
and that makes more sense as Tobi being Izuna..

Keep thinking and analyzing.. but please don't fell into some of those traps....... ;)
if u saw it is izuna how come he be alive for so long r is he a edo tensei sommuning too?why cant it be someone else we dont know may be someone who went on a mission during the massacre and the one other than sasuke who wants revenge against konoha elders
 
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Yep.. Team IZUNA

I think we should make a poll on who Tobi is??

The theories:
-A Zetsu clone
-Madara
-Obito
-Itachi and Sasuke's father
-Some Uzumaki guy
-Son of the SO6P
-And of course IZUNA.. Madara's brother
-Other

The problem is I don't know how to make a Poll thing.. haha..
If someone knows I think that could be cool
hahaha yea that would be pretty cool
 
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if u saw it is izuna how come he be alive for so long r is he a edo tensei sommuning too?why cant it be someone else we dont know may be someone who went on a mission during the massacre and the one other than sasuke who wants revenge against konoha elders
hmm how could he live to be old well many possible ways.
1) he could be transferring his soul to other bodies like orochimaru . (although orcho is dead....supposedly who knows with that guy weirdo)

2) the tsuchgikage(spelling) said he once fought against madara and he is still living so there is no time table to how long one could live in the narutoverse. they aint ordinary humans like us

3)going along with how old tshucikage (spelling bad lol) he could be just as old but have some technique like tsunade that makes him look young (lol funny)

4) who knows...he could just be really old like the tschuikage (whatever) cause the tschukage did fight against madara.

who knows why he is alive if he really is alive but there are ways that izuna could still be alive today

and it could be someone else who wants revenge i at one point thought it was kagami uchiha because he was part of the group tobirama---->hence the name tobi, why did i think it was him : doesnt say how he died just says supposed death,also kagami would be old enough to know about madara and would have been more than old enough when he fought the fourth and would be old now. why would he want revenge? well he saw the third get named hokage and could have infuriated him. why? because he was an uchiha and saw that no uchiha was ever gonna be on top just like madara once foresaw.

i also thought it was setsuna uchiha. he was tired of the second hokage and plotted an uprising of the uchiha. but i just dont feel he was strong or worthy enough to be tobi.

so to me tobi is either 1)izuna he has the strength to match madara, looks like him knows everything about him and can impersonate him, 2)it could be kagami but i dont think so i still think its IZUNA but kagami can more than fit the description of tobi. 3) possibly but highly and i mean highly unlikely setsuna.
 
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Yep.. Team IZUNA

I think we should make a poll on who Tobi is??

The theories:
-A Zetsu clone
-Madara
-Obito
-Itachi and Sasuke's father
-Some Uzumaki guy
-Son of the SO6P
-And of course IZUNA.. Madara's brother
-Other

The problem is I don't know how to make a Poll thing.. haha..
If someone knows I think that could be cool
There have been too much of 'Who is Tobi?' threads....even if you make a new one, other people would just simply ignore it.
 

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hmm how could he live to be old well many possible ways.
1) he could be transferring his soul to other bodies like orochimaru . (although orcho is dead....supposedly who knows with that guy weirdo)

2) the tsuchgikage(spelling) said he once fought against madara and he is still living so there is no time table to how long one could live in the narutoverse. they aint ordinary humans like us

3)going along with how old tshucikage (spelling bad lol) he could be just as old but have some technique like tsunade that makes him look young (lol funny)
Dude, if you do the calculation, you will find out that Madara would be about 135 years old. Even if you take Izuna as 5 years younger than Madara he would be 130. So there would be no chance of him being alive

And you said that we cant say how much an average human lives in Narutoverse then think again: we have seen Oonoki crying out loud because of his old back. We also saw that Hiruzen lost against Orochimaru because he was too old. And we do the calculation again then we see that both of these oldies are in their 70's.
 
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I'm not talking about a thread but just a poll.. since now most theories have appeared and I just wondered what was the actual numbers to how many people believe Tobi is such or such....
 

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I'm not talking about a thread but just a poll.. since now most theories have appeared and I just wondered what was the actual numbers to how many people believe Tobi is such or such....
A poll is in a thread.
And there have been too many of those polls.
If u wanna know the numbers just use the search button to find one of those thread.
 

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I was thinking about the Uchiha massacre... It seems to me that Itachi found out something very very dangerous and terrible so he began a long long plan for that.

What he discovered: the existence of Tobi, which was of incredible strength/ability. Itachi knew at that time that he hadn't the slighest chance neither anyone of the Uchiha to defeat him.

His plan: Since he can't defeat Tobi, he thought to make/educate/prepare the one that will be able to defeat Tobi... and that is Sasuke. Ie: the reason Itachi let sasuke live was so he will get stronger, then he will awaken the MS, then fight Itachi, then take Itachi's eyes.. so what I say is that Itachi planned for Sasuke to take his eyes at the very moment of the Uchiha massacre... so Sasuke defeats Tobi one day.

This reminds me a little to what Minato did when he sealed the Kyubi inside of his son Naruto.. he knew he couldn't win.. he planned and saw that one day Naruto will be strong, control the Kyubi and defeat that one behind the attack. This shows that Itachi/Minato faced the same guy and without even planning this together saw that Sasuke/Naruto will defeat him some day.

About the details of the Uchiha massacre.. The elders, Danzo, the Uchiha's real mentality, etc... I'm sure Kishi has a lot of things to reveal to us.. still..
this theory makes so much sense... like it
 
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Dude, if you do the calculation, you will find out that Madara would be about 165 years old. Even if you take Izuna as 5 yeara younger than Madara he would be 160. So there would be no chance of him being alive

And you said that we cant say how much an average human lives in Narutoverse then think again: we have seen Oonoki crying out loud because of his old back. We also saw that Hiruzen lost against Orochimaru because he was too old. And we do the calculation again then we see that both of these oldies are in their 70's.
lol wait wait wait so you telling me the oonoki who you claim to be in his 70s fought madara right? oonoki is still alive and he is 70 right lol and you say if madara or izuna is still alive they would be 160 lol that means when oonoki was born madara which he fought would have been around 90 years old and 100 at the time of onookis birth lol how old was madara when he fought oonoki? lol 120 ,130 140? lol you make no sense go back to elementary math or something lol and to say tobi isnt an uchiha? go back to when he stated he was an uchiha lol hahahaha you are no longer relevant after these numbers you came up with lol crazy

lol telling me that madara or izuna cant be alive because they are too old lol but we know oonoki fought him lol probably in his 20s or something which would have made madara or izuna according to your calculations atleast 110 years old lol

lol had you explained your numbers in a logical manner i wouldnt talk bout ya. anyways at the time of the first war the leaf was about 80 years old how old was madara when he found the leaf idk so he was atleast 80 when he fought the 4th hokage. and izuna is younger than him by how much idk. so 16 years have passed since then that would mean madara is atleast 96 and izuna is younger by how much idk. and 96 is a reasonable number for a person to live to. why and how could madara or izuna live long? tobi said he had senju dna. senju chakra is that found in nature. humans are part of nature thus having senju dna could extend izunas or madaras life longer by making their bodies stronger. lol but to say he as least 165? that is way off he would be around 120 atleast depending on what age he found konoha.

tobi or izuna or madara lived long because of how strong their chakras are. back to when itachi was talking to sasuke, itachi said madara gained another power when he gained ems which would probably be immortality as stated here by itachi

tobi might not be izuna even though i want it to be, its probably just a form of madara because he is immortal and powerful and wouldnt just go away. and to say tobi isnt an uchiha? thats just stupid go back and read the fact.

so yes tobi can be madara or izuna no he wouldnt be 160 years old he would be around 120 yes he could have survived all this time because he had really strong chakra and his ems played a role with it
 
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And btw Sasuke is not an Uchiha... please keep your assumptions with the least of logic

yep sure some people wouldn't understand what I mean.. but the smart ones will know ;)
 
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"NapoleonKiller" I didn't mean to offend.. but the way you said it was as if A FACT..
And what I said is that you need sound proof to support your assumptions (ie theories)

I think "observeANDanalyze" had quite much some logic in his assumptions..
He thinks Tobi is Izuna but he doesn't disbelief any theory as long as they make sense.. as long as it is logical and supported by NarutoVerse Facts.

I believe too that Tobi is Izuna, that doesn't make a change to the fact that only Kishi really knows who Tobi is.. and I'll be just so happy to know that soon..

I'm also eager to see Sasuke/Naruto fight Tobi and both being the heroes of Konoha
 
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