Gaara is Itachi's Worst Match Up(Read)

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Really? You're just gonna ignore Kishimoto himself?

Of course unless it was in favor of Itachi this they would quoate him like there was no tomorrow.

do not doubt itachi's power bro, he can lock gaaras soul away into that gourd. itachi is a fighting genius, gaara could not handle a genjutsu dude. i have never heard of gaara breaking a powerful genjutsu. maybe if he still had that bijuu, but even then he would still be no match for itachi. but gaara would give itachi hell, but itachi would reverse the entire battle.

You have never heard of Gaara being in genjutsu at all so you don't know what would happen. Moving on, the problem with putting Gaara in this type of genjutsu is your concentrating on it while your doing it but the sand keeps moving there is a real good chance Gaara would end with a head ache and Itachi dead. As far as Itachi being a genus I take it you think Gaara is dumb. Let me put it this way Itachi has a very good chance with Gaara but no auto win maybe not even a win. But if he does not finish Gaara is not the type you give a second chance to you just don't beat him the same way twice. So IF he can Itachi kills him first fight or dies in the second fight.
 

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Of course unless it was in favor of Itachi this they would quoate him like there was no tomorrow.



You have never heard of Gaara being in genjutsu at all so you don't know what would happen. Moving on, the problem with putting Gaara in this type of genjutsu is your concentrating on it while your doing it but the sand keeps moving there is a real good chance Gaara would end with a head ache and Itachi dead. As far as Itachi being a genus I take it you think Gaara is dumb. Let me put it this way Itachi has a very good chance with Gaara but no auto win maybe not even a win. But if he does not finish Gaara is not the type you give a second chance to you just don't beat him the same way twice. So IF he can Itachi kills him first fight or dies in the second fight.

"You don't know what would happen if Gaara was in a genjutsu."

I'm pretty sure I know exactly what would happen. It would be the exact same as what happens to everyone else who gets caught in a genjutsu. He is not immune to genjutsu.
 

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Gaara uses sand
Itachi uses Katon (fire)

Lets ASSUME that gaara uses his sand abilites to turn the whole field into sand. What would be itachis response? I cant say for sure becuase he has never encounered gaara, but i think it would go something like this. metsu onto a small spot and BAM glass. Amerstu will turn the whole field of sand into glass (anyone wanna tell me thats not logical since glss is in naruto and glass is made of sand under intense heat) Not since itachi is able to turn gaara sand into glass it ill be no problem for itachi to beat gaara

That is just one of the senarios i wanted to present.

Logically Itachi would be Gaara becuase he would turn Gaara sand into glass and Gaara would no longer be able to manipulate it.

Gaara is strong and all but he has limitations.
Flying will not help him in too many fights becuase most ememys will still be able to his him, and he must get himself into attack range to hit them. He also does not move fast on this sand. He has never shown any speed of any sort in battle. He stands back and lets the sand do the work.

Sand is sand. It cannot get stronger. Gaara can get stronger and be able to block harder attacks but the sand it self cannot get stronger.

Sand reaction speed is slow. The fact is the Gaara sand is not that fast other wise Oonki woldnt have had to lighten it to get to madara faster. Notive when he did that he used it to grab him. Not hit him or anything of the sort. Gaaras sand reaction speed is not on the same level as the atack speed of Itachi, Sasuke, Raikages, Naruto, and even Guy. Gaara pulling madara from sasunoo is not comparable to Raikae hitting sasunoo with he strongest attack at its highest possible momentum (oonki made him really fast then made him really heavy if i am correct p=mv so that momentum made his attakc much stronger)

Short Range-Long Range just becuase Gaara is considered a long ranged fighter does by no means make him unable to get his by genjutsu. He is a long range fighter and Rock Lees Hidden Lotus is a close range technique but Gaara still got hit by it. So that does not matter. If i use a shuriken at close range does that make it a close range weapon or a long range weapon. The shuriken is still a long range weapon even when used in close combat. Same goes for Gaara's sand attacks he will be fighting at close range with Itachi he attack can be USED at long range and that is the distance of effect but that does not mean that when he uses them that he will be in long range.

Im sure someone will come up with a counter argument. Good, thats what these threads are suppose to be about.

Lastly i wanna touch on that Set up for Kirin part. Kirin was performed by sasuke High on a mountain, with a surrounding forest fire, with release of a highly concentrated amount of heat from a cave, and 3 fire dragon balls. Sasuke would get PAWNED before he got to use that move in a fight that does not have as much set up as that. I didnt say that he couldnt do it but, if he were to use regular Katon jutsu it would take a lot of ire to heat the atmosphere. If he was at a low altitude the heat would just disperse to the cooler surrounding area, not to mention the down draft of cool air coming from the atmosphere would cool the area even more. If he were to use amertsu to perform this attack he would need a lot of fuel to burn becuase the heat would just disperse becuase amertsu needs a target he cannot just shoot it into the air. Well the last part of that sentence could be wrong coming up considering that we saw him Wielding amerstu in his sasunoo hand in his last appearence. But although he is able to Wield it he still has chakra limits and that would deplete his chakra like a BAWS. CAN sasuke use kirin in a rgular fight, sure. Is that a smart thing to so considering that time it would take and the amount of chakra it would use, NO. So based off that i wouldnt conclude kirin to be a very fight freindly move. Its like saying that becuase 4th hokage has DGS he pwns all. Well its really not the same, bt same concept. It is a one time move if you hit you can win but if you miss you more than likely will lose.
 

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I wanted to avoid this thread but I got bord.
Wrong the worst match up for itachi is tobi also A is pretty tough because he is immune to genjutsu and hella fast but even he falls to itachis cunning mind.

Now as for gaara vs. itachi in this aspect it plays into itachi's hands
Gaara has no biju and sand eye is connected to his actual I socket meaning he's screwed.
Itachi can use a finger to trap gaara in genjutsu

Sand can only block ameratsu that is already existing or if sand is already shielding gaara

Itachi has long range & mid range jutsu both water & fire let me reiterate gaaras screwed
 

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Ok. Gaara may be one of Itachi's bad matchups but Itachi will find a way to go close range. Gaara's attack also have no way past the yata mirror so basically Gaara=0%. For Itachi, there is a chance. A very high chance
 

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I wanted to avoid this thread but I got bord.
Wrong the worst match up for itachi is tobi also A is pretty tough because he is immune to genjutsu and hella fast but even he falls to itachis cunning mind.

Now as for gaara vs. itachi in this aspect it plays into itachi's hands
Gaara has no biju and sand eye is connected to his actual I socket meaning he's screwed.
Itachi can use a finger to trap gaara in genjutsu

Sand can only block ameratsu that is already existing or if sand is already shielding gaara

Itachi has long range & mid range jutsu both water & fire let me reiterate gaaras screwed

A is immune to genjutsu? When did that happen? I believe that you are trying to pull a fast one on us sir.
 

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Okay so i love Gaara, like he is my favourite character, but i dont think that he would beat itachi so easily. "if" he did it would be a large struggle and that is a really big "if".
Maybe like when Itachi was sick and had over used his MS then he could beat him by just waiting around for him to die and go blind or whatever but I dunno now that itachi is dead and he has no limits not, he is really going all out and i dunno if gaara could cope with that.
 

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Read what A said to sasuke the read what shi said bout the raikage and his synopsis from there u tell me what it was getting at since the raikage doesn't know how good or powerful sasuke's genjutsus are.

Then again A is hella arrogant...
 

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Read what A said to sasuke the read what shi said bout the raikage and his synopsis from there u tell me what it was getting at since the raikage doesn't know how good or powerful sasuke's genjutsus are.

Then again A is hella arrogant...

I went back and read all of that fight and the chapters surrounding it. At no point do they even imply that A is immune to genjutsu. Perhaps you are misreading or misinterpreting something.

If you get the manga page then either you can prove me wrong or we can clear up the ambiguity for you.
 

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Gaara cannot beat itachi. simple as that.
Gaara has to constantly look at his opponent since he dosent move around much, he looks at itachi and bam, hit with genjutsu, itachi ALWAYS starts off using genjutsu, this thread should really be banned, this is like saying Konohamaru can beat sai becasue Konohamaru took out one of the paths of pain.
 
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Gaara is a long range fighter all Itachi's known genjutsu are short range.



Gaara can pull Itachi out of Susanoo(he doesn't need Onoki for this, Onoki just reduced the amount of exertion he'll need for this) and crush him. He can avoid Yasaka's Magatama and Totsuka by riding his sand to remove himself out of the way(it was fast enough to dodge Amaterasu)



Gaara can block Amaterasu with his defense(he did so against Sasuke's Amaterasu)


With no genjutsu(Tsukuyomi included) and no Amaterasu or Susanoo attacks, Itachi is dead, won't you agree? If not, tell me Itachi's options.


NOTE: He can't use water techs to destroy Gaara's sand, only oily water can accomplish this.[/QUOTEh]
you guys talk like itachi has no taijutsu or he is not good in taijutsu.Even when sasuke was very weak he almost defeated gaara and by then itachi was at his peak.
 

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Why doesn't anyone want to believe this? The facts are on Gaara's side, Itachi's genjutsu is short range, Gaara can attack inside of Susanoo and drag Itachi out and kill him, Amaterasu won't hit since Gaara's sand is fast enough to block it...and this whole turn to glass thing, why did Gaara's sand turn to glass at the Five Kage Summit when Sasuke shot it with Amaterasu?
 

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gaara was defeates by dedira. itachi is much more powerful then dedira. so itachi can defeat gaara easily. gaara is no match for itachi............. got that.
 

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you guys talk like itachi has no taijutsu or he is not good in taijutsu.Even when sasuke was very weak he almost defeated gaara and by then itachi was at his peak.

Taijutsu won't matter as seen with Kimimaro. Gaara's sand is too big.
 

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gaara was defeates by dedira. itachi is much more powerful then dedira. so itachi can defeat gaara easily. gaara is no match for itachi............. got that.

This mean's nothing. It doesn't work this way in Naruto.
 

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Gaara can't pull itachi out of a complete version 4 susanoo with armor and mantle, he pulled madara out of a incomplete version 2 susanoo with onokis help.

Gaara can't do shit vs sword of susanoo.

Itachi murders Gaara.
 

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Gaara can't pull itachi out of a complete version 4 susanoo with armor and mantle, he pulled madara out of a incomplete version 2 susanoo with onokis help.

Gaara can't do shit vs sword of susanoo.

Itachi murders Gaara.

Whether its version 4 or 400, its defenses don't cover the ground beneath the user's feet.
 
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