Kisame is the strongest naruto character.

[ShiNoSasuke]

Kisame should'nt be underrated, that would be foolish to say so.


His top Jutsu is the highest S rank Water Style Jutsu in Naruto PERIOD.


I am not sure why people would, but he wouldn't be the strongest as Might Guy defeated him....ofcourse in 8 Gate Mode.

 

[lanakau888]

Even so, kisame hasnt been in such a position to show this. Also feats add up.

Feats don't add up. You take the strongest feat from one character as their upper limit and pit it against the strongest feat from another character and pit it as their upper limit.

With tsuande again most of what she does, she uses chakra precision, unless you can show me that, she didnt

I don't understand, if tsunade is shown with raw physical strength enough to jump over a hundred feet in the air with a bus-sized sword in her hand then why shouldn't she have the physical strength to repeat it? Kishi gave her this strength feat, and it surpasses anything kisame has shown.

The whole "feats add up" argument is faulty, because it means characters with more screen time will get greater feats than characters with less.

 

[Blaze Release]

Feats don't add up. You take the strongest feat from one character as their upper limit and pit it against the strongest feat from another character and pit it as their upper limit.



I don't understand, if tsunade is shown with raw physical strength enough to jump over a hundred feet in the air with a bus-sized sword in her hand then why shouldn't she have the physical strength to repeat it? Kishi gave her this strength feat, and it surpasses anything kisame has shown.

The whole "feats add up" argument is faulty, because it means characters with more screen time will get greater feats than characters with less.

Can you show me a link which hints that it was raw power from tsunade and not chakra control. I do however agree that charaters who have more screen time would have more feats and if so it makes sense to judge this based on what weve have seen.

 

[ninja nik]

3rd raikage had pure brute strength....it's the same with 4th raikage.....
kisame is one tough ninja/akatsuki...he's a monster

 

[lanakau888]

Can you show me a link which hints that it was raw power from tsunade and not chakra control. I do however agree that charaters who have more screen time would have more feats and if so it makes sense to judge this based on what weve have seen.

It's explained that tsunade's chakra control increases her punching power by gathering chakra into her fist and releasing it at the moment of impact. This can be applied to her punching/impact feats. This cannot be applied to her lifting feats since lifting is not making contact with something for an instant, but constantly applying force to the said object over a duration of time.

 

[ShiNoSasuke]

But why isn't he in the same league as kisame. He overpowers a giant gorilla without effort. He takes a kick to the neck from sasuke and starts to write lyrics.

Also tsunade's dagger lifting feat still outweighs anything kisame has done.

BTW its been like a month and I still can't +rep u again.

Bee isn't stronger than Kisame. Actually the Waterclone/Zetsu clone(or whatever it was that got a double lariat from Bee and Ay) was actually owning Bee. Bee would've died if it wasn't for the Raikage.

Real shit

 

[lanakau888]

Bee isn't stronger than Kisame. Actually the Waterclone/Zetsu clone(or whatever it was that got a double lariat from Bee and Ay) was actually owning Bee. Bee would've died if it wasn't for the Raikage.

Real shit

zetsu clone came into the battle after the water dome dispersed. From then on, the zetsu clone displayed no strength feats except for kicking samehada.

The real kisame was fighting bee, and being able to defeat a person doesn't mean that you have greater physical strength than them.

 

[ShiNoSasuke]

zetsu clone came into the battle after the water dome dispersed. From then on, the zetsu clone displayed no strength feats except for kicking samehada.

The real kisame was fighting bee, and being able to defeat a person doesn't mean that you have greater physical strength than them.

Wait, your last statement defiles logic.

If you beat someone(usually kill them in Naruto) how doesn't that make you stronger than them....in general? So yeah, you can defeat a person, but you aren't stronger than that person.


Come on bro.

 

[lanakau888]

Wait, your last statement defiles logic.

If you beat someone(usually kill them in Naruto) how doesn't that make you stronger than them....in general? So yeah, you can defeat a person, but you aren't stronger than that person.


Come on bro.

When I mean physically stronger, I mean....well.... PHYSICALLY STRONGER.

Meaning in terms of lifting/punching/throwing, basically any feat using only their physical strength, A could be > B, but when you factor in all of B's abilities and how they match up to A, B can win the fight.

Example: Who would you say is physically stronger: Deva path or Gamabunta?
Who got owned X3/low diff against Deva?

 

[Kirin Rei]

Wait, your last statement defiles logic.

If you beat someone(usually kill them in Naruto) how doesn't that make you stronger than them....in general? So yeah, you can defeat a person, but you aren't stronger than that person.


Come on bro.

''Physically'' stronger.

As if; Chouji can lift 200kg, Madara can lift 100kg but if you pit them together Chouji would become dog food in an instant.

Comprende?

 

[GodaimeRaikage]

Wait, your last statement defiles logic.

If you beat someone(usually kill them in Naruto) how doesn't that make you stronger than them....in general? So yeah, you can defeat a person, but you aren't stronger than that person.


Come on bro.

Are you serious? Konohamaru took out one of the paths, I guess he's stronger than Pain.There are circumstances that come up in battle which could allow a weaker shinobi to beat stronger shinobi.

Edit:lanakau888 was talking about physical strength, I stand corrected.

 

[Silvershadnic]

Honestly I believe Kisame can Curbstomp most of these characters, but my friend pointed out these Factors: Deidara- My friend pointed out that Explosions are more powerful under water so no Camping under water, Sasori- The Iron Sand can't be split since it it's Incredibly hard and can't be Absorbed and for the fact He is a puppet so he can't absorb any chakra, Tobi- Under That Mask Is the troll Face, Naruto-Plot Device, Raikage (Ay)- Lightning nature major disadvantage.

 

[Zaxelzero]

3rd Raikage for Durability,
Kisame for Strength. But how do we know it goes without chakra?

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

What does killbee have to do with this thread and we saw that fight, bee lost.
Also before gai's fight with kisame he was greatly weakened + didnt have samahada with him and yet he tanked gai's strongest attacks.

Well think about it, Bee partly lost due to the hampering of being able to fully transform.

I agree with you that Kisame is one of the psychically strongest characters, but behind the Third and Fourth Raikages.

You also have to remember that ALL ninja have a level of superhuman strength whether we see it or not.

Look at this thread for instance, and it's only Kakashi.

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He was able to launch Sasuke back THAT far with only a punch, which Sasuke did indeed block.

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And here, a Naruto who was in his normal mode in an exhausted state was able to shatter stone that was almost completely restraining him.

I sometimes think people underrate the physical strength of the characters due to the fact that Naruto has a large similarity to Dragon BallZ but with none of the staggering strength. But if the characters in Naruto didn't have a ton of physical strength, how would they be able to jump like they do?

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

if u talk about raw power it goes to 3rd raikage. his blood and flesh just like a steel, if u consider this as endurance or defense,but i'd say his strength same as a tailed beast (1-7). but kisame's strength close to 4th raikage. or maybe equal.

When has he shown strength feats? His version of raiton armor protects him. That isn't being physically strong, that is having a good defense.

In my opinion I would have to agree with this thread as well. Though there are a few other people I might throw in for consideration as well. Naruto being one of them.

People like to forget about just how physically strong Naruto is as well. I can show people several places in the manga where Naruto does insane feats of strength, even without the kyuubi's chakra.

For instance, back at the very beginning of the Chuunin exams in the forest of death, Naruto stopped one of Oro's huge snakes dead in its tracks by just standing in front of it.

He also managed to move (and I think lift but I'm not sure, I'm about to go check that chapter again) one of those huge frog statues without sage mode or anything.

 

[Better]

When has he shown strength feats? His version of raiton armor protects him. That isn't being physically strong, that is having a good defense.

In my opinion I would have to agree with this thread as well. Though there are a few other people I might throw in for consideration as well. Naruto being one of them.

People like to forget about just how physically strong Naruto is as well. I can show people several places in the manga where Naruto does insane feats of strength, even without the kyuubi's chakra.

For instance, back at the very beginning of the Chuunin exams in the forest of death, Naruto stopped one of Oro's huge snakes dead in its tracks by just standing in front of it.

He also managed to move (and I think lift but I'm not sure, I'm about to go check that chapter again) one of those huge frog statues without sage mode or anything.

In the Forest of death, he was using fox chakra, idk if the manga showed that but the anime did, thats how oro noticed the "fox kid" was still alive

I also believe he lifted the frog with imperfect sage mode, the one with the toad oil

i'll check this tho and get back to ya

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yea it was fox chakra

I'm still looking for the one where he lifted the frog

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sage mode (imperfect)

 

[Raiten Uchiha]

I agree that Kisame is a massive powerhouse, but not the strongest.. maybe in my top 3.

 

[jnr3000]

the 3rd raikage is the strongest, if fought with the 8 tails till they were both exhausted. Kisame would come in number 2 after him...

 

[BigTDogg220]

Dude do you guys read the thread or just comment after reading the title. Im talking about pure strength and nothing else

I misread your thread, but even so Kisame's pure strength is less than the 3rd or 4th Raikage.

 

[Noble Armada]

I believe that in the fight against Orochimaru, the first punch Tsunade delivered (the one that shattered the wall behind her) had no chakra in it.

Also, Samehada probably enhances his strength simply with its weight.

I believe Tsunade is the physically strongest.

Also, there is no proof that the attacks Kisame delivered were not enhanced by chakra.