Mei Vs Kakuzu

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Then if he had Water why didn't use it in the manga? That's my point.

-I said Kakuzu didn't have Water in the manga
-You said his Water heart got destroyed by Kakashi
-I said the heart destroyed by Kakashi is his Earth
-You said he himself is Earth
-I said he isn't based on those manga pages

The heart that Kakashi destroyed was his Earth heart. If he had Water then he didn't use it.

In theory he can have all five elements, but in the manga he didn't use it.
the mask that was destroyed was water lol

the reason kakazu didn't use his iron skin anymore is because he didn't need it against kakashi and company. They didn't use any jutsu it was basically him and kakashi with taijutsu
 

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the mask that was destroyed was water lol

the reason kakazu didn't use his iron skin anymore is because he didn't need it against kakashi and company. They didn't use any jutsu it was basically him and kakashi with taijutsu
You really don't like to admit when you're wrong do you...


If the heart that Kakashi destroyed wasn't his Earth heart then why did he deactivate his Iron Skin at all? Why didn't he use his Iron Skin when he kicked Kakashi 10 seconds after Kakashi used his Chidori on him? Why didn't he use it against Naruto?


Iron Skin, aside from dealing with ninjutsu attacks, is especially meant for taijutsu.
It makes his skin impervious to physical damage.

You're argument makes no sense
 
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You really don't like to admit when you're wrong do you...


If the heart that Kakashi destroyed wasn't his Earth heart then why did he deactivate his Iron Skin at all? Why didn't he use his Iron Skin when he kicked Kakashi 10 seconds after Kakashi used his Chidori on him? Why didn't he use it against Naruto?

Iron Skin, aside from dealing with ninjutsu attacks, is especially meant for taijutsu.
It makes his skin impervious to physical damage.

You're argument makes no sense
lol mine doesn't make sense?

what you're saying doesn't make sense lol its common sense
5 hearts = 5 different elements

how hard is that?

Why didn't he use his iron skin for kakashi? why would he? that 10 sec later attack was a surprise attack and during the fight he had 3 element black things attacking everyone the only time kakashi got close is when hidan stap himself and took out kakazu heart

other than that kakazu was dominating that match kakashi never got close

Against naruto?

Did you see his final form? he had no skin just that gray stuff

its actually common sense 5 hearts = 5 elements for someone like kakazu
 

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I want to say Kakuzu, His knowlegde of the battle out does hers big time. He probably smarter than her since he has been around so long.

After that its just Ninjutsu master vs Ninjutsu master. If Kakuzu stays in an open area Then Boil Release is no good. And I can see Him evading Lava for a little
 

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My god. Arguing with you is like talking to a wall. Sorry to be blunt but it is. You don't even see the facts when they're presented in front of you. All you do is repeat the same things over and over again when I've clearly shown counter-evidence to them.

Why didn't he use his iron skin for kakashi? why would he? that 10 sec later attack was a surprise attack and during the fight he had 3 element black things attacking everyone the only time kakashi got close is when hidan stap himself and took out kakazu heart

other than that kakazu was dominating that match kakashi never got close
Exactly. It was a surprise attack. And it would have been stronger had he had his Iron Skin active. It makes no sense not to use it in this instance.

Against naruto?

Did you see his final form? he had no skin just that gray stuff

its actually common sense 5 hearts = 5 elements for someone like kakazu
If he still had his Earth techniques then why didn't he retreat into his impenetrable Iron Skin when he saw Naruto's technique? He wouldn't have stayed in that form the way he did if he had a choice.

Kakuzu himself says he can't get hit with that technique:


His Iron Skin probably wouldn't have helped him if he got hit. Regardless, it's a much better bet to retreat to his Iron Skin and detach his 2 masks to fight at long range than to stay in his exposed flesh form.

what you're saying doesn't make sense lol its common sense
5 hearts = 5 different elements

how hard is that?
Now you're putting words in my mouth. When did I even once say he can't have all five? I'm talking about what he showed in the manga.

Here. Take a second and read more carefully at what I said:
Then if he had Water why didn't use it in the manga? That's my point.

-I said Kakuzu didn't have Water in the manga
-You said his Water heart got destroyed by Kakashi
-I said the heart destroyed by Kakashi is his Earth
-You said he himself is Earth
-I said he isn't based on those manga pages

The heart that Kakashi destroyed was his Earth heart. If he had Water then he didn't use it.

In theory he can have all five elements, but in the manga he didn't use it.


But that's not even what we're arguing about. What we're arguing about is which heart got destroyed by Kakashi.

The heart destroyed by Kakashi was his Earth heart. How do we know? Because we have the manga pages to show it. Seconds after his heart is destroyed Kakuzu doesn't use Earth techniques anymore. Not once in the fight afterwards does he use a single Earth-based technique. This is proof enough.

If you're so adamant in your claim that he still had Earth element, then why didn't he use it? At least tell me that. If he had Earth element then he could have easily used the ground to his advantage. It's proven that Earth users can create walls and attacks using the ground. He could also have hindered Kakashi's movements instead of having Kakashi constantly running around and avoiding his attacks.
 

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My god. Arguing with you is like talking to a wall. Sorry to be blunt but it is. You don't even see the facts when they're presented in front of you. All you do is repeat the same things over and over again when I've clearly shown counter-evidence to them.



Exactly. It was a surprise attack. And it would have been stronger had he had his Iron Skin active. It makes no sense not to use it in this instance.



If he still had his Earth techniques then why didn't he retreat into his impenetrable Iron Skin when he saw Naruto's technique? He wouldn't have stayed in that form the way he did if he had a choice.

Kakuzu himself says he can't get hit with that technique:


His Iron Skin probably wouldn't have helped him if he got hit. Regardless, it's a much better bet to retreat to his Iron Skin and detach his 2 masks to fight at long range than to stay in his exposed flesh form.



Now you're putting words in my mouth. When did I even once say he can't have all five? I'm talking about what he showed in the manga.

Here. Take a second and read more carefully at what I said:




But that's not even what we're arguing about. What we're arguing about is which heart got destroyed by Kakashi.

The heart destroyed by Kakashi was his Earth heart. How do we know? Because we have the manga pages to show it. Seconds after his heart is destroyed Kakuzu doesn't use Earth techniques anymore. Not once in the fight afterwards does he use a single Earth-based technique. This is proof enough.

If you're so adamant in your claim that he still had Earth element, then why didn't he use it? At least tell me that. If he had Earth element then he could have easily used the ground to his advantage. It's proven that Earth users can create walls and attacks using the ground. He could also have hindered Kakashi's movements instead of having Kakashi constantly running around and avoiding his attacks.
i noticed you like to insult people when you don't get your way... lol its fine i don't mind

did you notice that all of his masks can only use one attack each? and then he combines the masks and combines the attacks

so its safe to say that every mask can only use one technique for each element

so his earth element has only one ability iron skin or whatever its called

the whole fight against kakashi he didn't have to use it. If you look back at the manga chapters there isn't one time against kakashi he had to use it, he was completely dominating till naruto and the other came.

Why didn't he use it against the rasen shuriken? idk maybe he thought it wouldn't do him any good if he got with it anyway

or maybe he thought he could dodge it and naruto tricked him with a shadow clone and he didn't have time to activate it
 

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i noticed you like to insult people when you don't get your way... lol its fine i don't mind

did you notice that all of his masks can only use one attack each? and then he combines the masks and combines the attacks

so its safe to say that every mask can only use one technique for each element

so his earth element has only one ability iron skin or whatever its called

the whole fight against kakashi he didn't have to use it. If you look back at the manga chapters there isn't one time against kakashi he had to use it, he was completely dominating till naruto and the other came.

Why didn't he use it against the rasen shuriken? idk maybe he thought it wouldn't do him any good if he got with it anyway

or maybe he thought he could dodge it and naruto tricked him with a shadow clone and he didn't have time to activate it
If you seriously think my responses are insulting then you must live in a really small world.


So now you're saying he, an Akatsuki member with the possibility to have all 5 elements, only has 5 techniques in his entire ninjutsu arsenal? You have got to be kidding me. Kishi wouldn't make a character so hyped up as to have 5 elements and then limit them by having only 1 technique of each. It's just not practical.

And you're still straying from the argument. That his first destroyed heart was Earth not Water. Nothing you're saying is making any advancements towards proving your claim.
 

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If you seriously think my responses are insulting then you must live in a really small world.


So now you're saying he, an Akatsuki member with the possibility to have all 5 elements, only has 5 techniques in his entire ninjutsu arsenal? You have got to be kidding me. Kishi wouldn't make a character so hyped up as to have 5 elements and then limit them by having only 1 technique of each. It's just not practical.

And you're still straying from the argument. That his first destroyed heart was Earth not Water. Nothing you're saying is making any advancements towards proving your claim.
lol did you see him use any other attacks?

idk how its not obvious to you his last mask was water, even in the anime it was blue lol its so obvious that its funny you deny it lol

idc if you don't consider narutowiki a source but they agree too
 

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idc if you don't consider narutowiki a source but they agree too
Now you resort to narutowiki...wow. You really have nothing better to prove your point?

You do realize I can go into narutowiki right now and change the entire article right? You know that it's a community driven site and that everything on there is added by fans right?

Its fact that nothing from narutowiki is genuine evidence.



Nor does the anime represent specific details from the manga.

Take a look at this sherlock:

Does that mask look blue to you?

It's the manga. There weren't four colored masks. There were just four ambiguous masks.

Seriously, first its narutowiki and now it's the anime :flaw:


idk how its not obvious to you his last mask was water, even in the anime it was blue lol its so obvious that its funny you deny it lol
I'm tired of this.

Take a big long stare at Kakuzu's damn headband. What do you see? That's the headband for Takigakure. That's the Village of Waterfalls. Is it still "obvious" that his last element is Earth? If anything, his last element was Water. His destroyed mask was Earth.
 
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