[Spoilers] Discusion: The marineford war - Read at your own risk!

[~Yubel~]

The war was the best arc in the entire series of one piece in my opinion, before the timeskip of course cuz we don´t know what´s to come.

Everything was good but i was a little disappointed in sengokus power, he didn´t seem that very strong, the golden fruit and the buddha was awesome but i was expecting the fleet-admiral to wreck shit more then the 3 admirals did.

his punch got blocked by freaking luffy, did he even have to use his df to pwn him and ace?
He was pushing blackbeard to his limit though but blackbeard is a different story cuz he didn´t even use his powers, he was just taking hits and when he started to attck back they were equals which i have no problem with cuz come on, this is blackbeard we´re talking about.

I wonder why whitebeard couldn´t use his haki to save ace?
I know he was injured and sick when luffy saved ace but he was still good when crocodile did it, nothing was wrong then, honestly, what would he have done without luffy?

Now on to something else, WTF IS WRONG WITH MUTHAFUKIN GARP?!
You have your one grandson about to be executed in front of your eyes, you´re actually sitting on your ass next to him then you have your other grandson who is fighting for his life at the battlefield to save his brother, who cares what sengokus said? Legendary marine my ass, the so-called navy solidier who cornered Roger in many fights but look at him now?
Whitebeard is the same age, probably even older and look at his power!
Garp is disgracing Rogers name by his poor performance, he let his rivals son die while he was there and could do shitload about it!

Screw this! **** Garp!

This war was very good and having all this happening made it better, i´m sorry for the rant on garp, i just had to say it, he made the story better by letting whatever happening to his grandsons happen, i liked the story because of his character but i didn´t like his character in the war at all, sure he cared, after ace died that is!

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

dude if sengoku doesn't pin down garp back then, that damned akainu will die, and also the one wh blocked sengoku attack is mr.3 with his wax shield

 

[~Yubel~]

dude if sengoku doesn't pin down garp back then, that damned akainu will die, and also the one wh blocked sengoku attack is mr.3 with his wax shield

Didn´t you see, luffy used a gear third ballon to stop sengokus punch and mr3 used his wax-wall around ace so that he wouldn´t be crushed by luffy who was getting pressured by sengoku, ace was beneath him and mr3 protected ace, he did nothing else.

 

[Dracule]

You say that as if Garp was happy about all of it. He was mentally tortured just as much as the rest of them to see one of his adopted Grandsons killed before him while the other's goes brain dead after all the effort. Garp actually chose to let Luffy get past him. Gear second or not, Garp held back. But the point of being a Marine is just like being a Ninja. You can't let emotions get in the way of your duty, no matter what. This showed that Garp really was a hard Marine. Besides that, he was prepared to kill Akainu anyway. And during the timeskip, who knows what happened with the Marines. We can all know that neither Garp, Coby, or Smoker are thrilled with the Government.

 

[Monkey d garp]

The war was the best arc in the entire series of one piece in my opinion, before the timeskip of course cuz we don´t know what´s to come.

Everything was good but i was a little disappointed in sengokus power, he didn´t seem that very strong, the golden fruit and the buddha was awesome but i was expecting the fleet-admiral to wreck shit more then the 3 admirals did.

his punch got blocked by freaking luffy, did he even have to use his df to pwn him and ace?
He was pushing blackbeard to his limit though but blackbeard is a different story cuz he didn´t even use his powers, he was just taking hits and when he started to attck back they were equals which i have no problem with cuz come on, this is blackbeard we´re talking about.

I wonder why whitebeard couldn´t use his haki to save ace?
I know he was injured and sick when luffy saved ace but he was still good when crocodile did it, nothing was wrong then, honestly, what would he have done without luffy?

Now on to something else, WTF IS WRONG WITH MUTHAFUKIN GARP?!
You have your one grandson about to be executed in front of your eyes, you´re actually sitting on your ass next to him then you have your other grandson who is fighting for his life at the battlefield to save his brother, who cares what sengokus said? Legendary marine my ass, the so-called navy solidier who cornered Roger in many fights but look at him now?
Whitebeard is the same age, probably even older and look at his power!
Garp is disgracing Rogers name by his poor performance, he let his rivals son die while he was there and could do shitload about it!

Screw this! **** Garp!

This war was very good and having all this happening made it better, i´m sorry for the rant on garp, i just had to say it, he made the story better by letting whatever happening to his grandsons happen, i liked the story because of his character but i didn´t like his character in the war at all, sure he cared, after ace died that is!

I agree the war was great best arc for me but wtf are you saying garp is the best and like the guy above me said he was suffering the whole war and could´t decide between duty and family but in the end he choose family because he let luffy past him (he could own luffy in a sec if he wanted to)and after ace death he even left the navy, that shows he cares for luffy and ace

 

[PainShinra]

You say that as if Garp was happy about all of it. He was mentally tortured just as much as the rest of them to see one of his adopted Grandsons killed before him while the other's goes brain dead after all the effort. Garp actually chose to let Luffy get past him. Gear second or not, Garp held back. But the point of being a Marine is just like being a Ninja. You can't let emotions get in the way of your duty, no matter what. This showed that Garp really was a hard Marine. Besides that, he was prepared to kill Akainu anyway. And during the timeskip, who knows what happened with the Marines. We can all know that neither Garp, Coby, or Smoker are thrilled with the Government.

Totally agree, besides I like almost every arc of OP equally since they were so nice, e.g. Skypia, Alabasta etc. There weren't that many badass-people like in the war, but trust me, the New World will be the nonplusultra.
I was disappointed by the Thriller Bark Arc, I didn't find it that funny as others did, and Moria is even weaker than Crocodile, but I think for the story, this arc was still very important to know who Moria is since he was killed and to know something about Bartholomew.

 

[sexyprep1]

The war was the best arc in the entire series of one piece in my opinion, before the timeskip of course cuz we don´t know what´s to come.

Everything was good but i was a little disappointed in sengokus power, he didn´t seem that very strong, the golden fruit and the buddha was awesome but i was expecting the fleet-admiral to wreck shit more then the 3 admirals did.

his punch got blocked by freaking luffy, did he even have to use his df to pwn him and ace?
He was pushing blackbeard to his limit though but blackbeard is a different story cuz he didn´t even use his powers, he was just taking hits and when he started to attck back they were equals which i have no problem with cuz come on, this is blackbeard we´re talking about.

I wonder why whitebeard couldn´t use his haki to save ace?
I know he was injured and sick when luffy saved ace but he was still good when crocodile did it, nothing was wrong then, honestly, what would he have done without luffy?

Now on to something else, WTF IS WRONG WITH MUTHAFUKIN GARP?!
You have your one grandson about to be executed in front of your eyes, you´re actually sitting on your ass next to him then you have your other grandson who is fighting for his life at the battlefield to save his brother, who cares what sengokus said? Legendary marine my ass, the so-called navy solidier who cornered Roger in many fights but look at him now?
Whitebeard is the same age, probably even older and look at his power!
Garp is disgracing Rogers name by his poor performance, he let his rivals son die while he was there and could do shitload about it!

Screw this! **** Garp!

This war was very good and having all this happening made it better, i´m sorry for the rant on garp, i just had to say it, he made the story better by letting whatever happening to his grandsons happen, i liked the story because of his character but i didn´t like his character in the war at all, sure he cared, after ace died that is!

you sound really ignorant garp didnt have a choice and just to let you know hes a marine so hes not disgracign anyone and garps way stronger then what weve seen thats like saying shanks is weak just becasue we havent seen him actually fight

 

[~Yubel~]

I was disappointed by the Thriller Bark Arc, I didn't find it that funny as others did, and Moria is even weaker than Crocodile, but I think for the story, this arc was still very important to know who Moria is since he was killed and to know something about Bartholomew.

I agree thriller bark being a bad arc but moria isn´t dead, he escaped kuma and donflamingo.

I agree the war was great best arc for me but wtf are you saying garp is the best and like the guy above me said he was suffering the whole war and could´t decide between duty and family but in the end he choose family because he let luffy past him (he could own luffy in a sec if he wanted to)and after ace death he even left the navy, that shows he cares for luffy and ace

you sound really ignorant garp didnt have a choice and just to let you know hes a marine so hes not disgracign anyone and garps way stronger then what weve seen thats like saying shanks is weak just becasue we havent seen him actually fight

Monkey d garp, first impression is everything and i know your a fanboy at its finest.
With that said, both you and sexyprep brought up good points, so basically you´re saying garp didn´t have a choice.

I say if he wasn´t so godamn slow to choose what´s more important to him then he could´ve prevented ace from dying, it actually took the death of ace before his dumbass was like "Ahh! My grandson! Damn you Akainu!"

What would he have done if ace would´ve died by the marines who execute people, they would´ve beheaded him twice, why didn´t he wake up?
Ace was very close to death twice, he was sitting on his ass next to him and it was only when he actually died that he chose "Family" instead of "Duty".

What? Would he also start walking to the executioners if they killed ace only to have his head smashed into the concrete by sengoku?

As for your other comment sexyprep, Shanks used to fight mihawk before losing an arm so we can from that automatically assume that he is as strong as him and he´s one of the 4 yonkous so that puts him at the level of whitebeard, when shanks arrived, he got things moving, Garp was like "he´s the one who infuenced luffy to become a pirate", so garp was blaming shanks for any of this ever happening at the same time he was there and didn´t do shit when it all went down in front of his eyes.

 

[sexyprep1]

I agree thriller bark being a bad arc but moria isn´t dead, he escaped kuma and donflamingo.


Monkey d garp, first impression is everything and i know your a fanboy at its finest.
With that said, both you and sexyprep brought up good points, so basically you´re saying garp didn´t have a choice.

I say if he wasn´t so godamn slow to choose what´s more important to him then he could´ve prevented ace from dying, it actually took the death of ace before his dumbass was like "Ahh! My grandson! Damn you Akainu!"

What would he have done if ace would´ve died by the marines who execute people, they would´ve beheaded him twice, why didn´t he wake up?
Ace was very close to death twice, he was sitting on his ass next to him and it was only when he actually died that he chose "Family" instead of "Duty".

What? Would he also start walking to the executioners if they killed ace only to have his head smashed into the concrete by sengoku?

As for your other comment sexyprep, Shanks used to fight mihawk before losing an arm so we can from that automatically assume that he is as strong as him and he´s one of the 4 yonkous so that puts him at the level of whitebeard, when shanks arrived, he got things moving, Garp was like "he´s the one who infuenced luffy to become a pirate", so garp was blaming shanks for any of this ever happening at the same time he was there and didn´t do shit when it all went down in front of his eyes.

your saying all of this is garps fault but did you ever stop think that luffy and ace both chose the path of being a pirarte and the responsebilities that come along with it and the consiciences its not garps job to save them but he still tryed when they chose to be pirates they at that moment were saying that they are fully prepared to die for being a pirarte

 

[Monkey d garp]

I agree thriller bark being a bad arc but moria isn´t dead, he escaped kuma and donflamingo.


Monkey d garp, first impression is everything and i know your a fanboy at its finest.
With that said, both you and sexyprep brought up good points, so basically you´re saying garp didn´t have a choice.

I say if he wasn´t so godamn slow to choose what´s more important to him then he could´ve prevented ace from dying, it actually took the death of ace before his dumbass was like "Ahh! My grandson! Damn you Akainu!"

What would he have done if ace would´ve died by the marines who execute people, they would´ve beheaded him twice, why didn´t he wake up?
Ace was very close to death twice, he was sitting on his ass next to him and it was only when he actually died that he chose "Family" instead of "Duty".

What? Would he also start walking to the executioners if they killed ace only to have his head smashed into the concrete by sengoku?

As for your other comment sexyprep, Shanks used to fight mihawk before losing an arm so we can from that automatically assume that he is as strong as him and he´s one of the 4 yonkous so that puts him at the level of whitebeard, when shanks arrived, he got things moving, Garp was like "he´s the one who infuenced luffy to become a pirate", so garp was blaming shanks for any of this ever happening at the same time he was there and didn´t do shit when it all went down in front of his eyes.

Im not a fanboy ,fanboy claim that there favourite character is the strongest and don´t here to any facts .It´s true that he is my favourite character but there are a few who could beat him and you should give him a bit credit he managed to corner gold roger the freaking pirate king so he is strongU_U

 

[Monkey d garp]

your saying all of this is garps fault but did you ever stop think that luffy and ace both chose the path of being a pirarte and the responsebilities that come along with it and the consiciences its not garps job to save them but he still tryed when they chose to be pirates they at that moment were saying that they are fully prepared to die for being a pirarte

agreed

 

[sexyprep1]

Im not a fanboy ,fanboy claim that there favourite character is the strongest and don´t here to any facts .It´s true that he is my favourite character but there are a few who could beat him and you should give him a bit credit he managed to corner gold roger the freaking pirate king so he is strongU_U

ty so much its like impossible for us one piece fans to be fanboys this isnt naruto here we just state and give people credit when its deserved

 

[Dracule]

your saying all of this is garps fault but did you ever stop think that luffy and ace both chose the path of being a pirarte and the responsebilities that come along with it and the consiciences its not garps job to save them but he still tryed when they chose to be pirates they at that moment were saying that they are fully prepared to die for being a pirarte

Exactly. Garp warned them both more than once when they were kids to not become Pirates. He even warned Luffy again when they met. He knew there would be consequences like this in the long run. If Ace never left to go find BB, the war would have never started in the first place. At least not so soon.

 

[PainShinra]

I agree thriller bark being a bad arc but moria isn´t dead, he escaped kuma and donflamingo.

Oh! Seems I overflew this part in the manga because I wanted to catch up quickly to the manga when I missed some...may you post the chapter where this happens? I can just remember him desperately facing Flamingo and saying something important I can't remember atm ...

 

[Haruno Hyuuga Yamanaka]

Oh! Seems I overflew this part in the manga because I wanted to catch up quickly to the manga when I missed some...may you post the chapter where this happens? I can just remember him desperately facing Flamingo and saying something important I can't remember atm ...

Can't remember the exact chpter, it was before 3D2Y though... it's implied by Doflamingo when he explains the situation to the WG.

Sounds like Absalom's work by the way he describes it if you ask me...

 

[~Yubel~]

Im not a fanboy ,fanboy claim that there favourite character is the strongest and don´t here to any facts .It´s true that he is my favourite character but there are a few who could beat him and you should give him a bit credit he managed to corner gold roger the freaking pirate king so he is strongU_U

Easy there, i am giving him credit, he´s a cool character but with no excuses, he still sucks for not being there for his freaking family.

If they would´ve died by some other marines or something and he wasn´t there then it would be all good, if he tried to save ace and he still died then it would be all good but he didn´t even do anything, that´s what i´m saying, he didn´t even try to do anything and don´t anyone give me that crap about it not being garp´s responsibility!

Even if your son or grandson makes the wrong choice, you won´t sit there and let them pay for it with their lives while saying "who cares, i told you", you would try to save them even if you know you were right from the start cuz they´re your grandsons and you have responsibility because of that.

 

[Talk No Jutsu]

Easy there, i am giving him credit, he´s a cool character but with no excuses, he still sucks for not being there for his freaking family.

If they would´ve died by some other marines or something and he wasn´t there then it would be all good, if he tried to save ace and he still died then it would be all good but he didn´t even do anything, that´s what i´m saying, he didn´t even try to do anything and don´t anyone give me that crap about it not being garp´s responsibility!

Even if your son or grandson makes the wrong choice, you won´t sit there and let them pay for it with their lives while saying "who cares, i told you", you would try to save them even if you know you were right from the start cuz they´re your grandsons and you have responsibility because of that.

He was about to take on a admiral for Ace, and Ace isn't even his real grandson, to go that much for someone, I think you should know by now how much he loved ace, the other posts before mine hits the spot, not to mention, he was just as traumatised as Luffy and others.

 

[~Yubel~]

ty so much its like impossible for us one piece fans to be fanboys this isnt naruto here we just state and give people credit when its deserved

Every person who watches a series can be a fanboy, don´t try to make one piece special, there are one piece fanboys and anyone who denies it is a one piece fanboyxd

 

[NarutoBestFanboy]

The one piece war was much better than this NAruto war haha but Naruto Sama will please his followers soon.

 

[~Yubel~]

The one piece war was much better than this NAruto war haha but Naruto Sama will please his followers soon.

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