Please show me how Kabuto is not at top 5, without dimissing edo tensei

[MrSharingan]

Kabuto is Number 1 spot, Tied with tobi.....Anyone who disagrees are seriously dense...

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[Chaotic Blades]

You are just making excuses lol, he took the bodies, he did the work.

Again read the title beacause in 3 pages I have done nothing but reply to people who again do nothing but say "edo tensei doesnt counts".

Read the thread, tell me how Kabuto is not among top 5 without taking away from him edo tensei, and I will reconsider my position if your argument is correct. I am being serious, I want to know if these arguments hold water or if the only argument haters have are "edo tensei doesnt counts".

I told you why he has to use another being in order to summon. another being not Kabuto. therefore edo tensei is not something he can do on his own. When you make it feasible how edo tensei is feasible as to his powers then you will have an argument. he has to get another persons body in order to summon and then use anko's power to withstand having control of multiple edo tensei. That's why he isnt top 5 or even top 30 or close to that. the minute you have to use other people's body and chakra just so you can summon someone to do the dirty work for you. no it's not his power. unless he can do it with his own chakra and find a why without sacrificing then its HIS power alone. Do you see people summoning animals by sacrificing people? no they use their own chakra

 

[Kakashi11]

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I told you why he has to use another being in order to summon. another being not Kabuto. therefore edo tensei is not something he can do on his own. When you make it feasible how edo tensei is feasible as to his powers then you will have an argument. he has to get another persons body in order to summon and then use anko's power to withstand having control of multiple edo tensei. That's why he isnt top 5 or even top 30 or close to that. the minute you have to use other people's body and chakra just so you can summon someone to do the dirty work for you. no it's not his power. unless he can do it with his own chakra and find a why without sacrificing then its HIS power alone. Do you see people summoning animals by sacrificing people? no they use their own chakra

I kinda agree with this it seems like everyone can summon something, no one really learns Edo Tensie except "bad" guys lol i bet other "good" guys can learn it but they dont because its against the laws of humanity or whatnot so its not that big of a deal xd

 

[ShinobiEmperor]

I told you why he has to use another being in order to summon. another being not Kabuto. therefore edo tensei is not something he can do on his own. When you make it feasible how edo tensei is feasible as to his powers then you will have an argument. he has to get another persons body in order to summon and then use anko's power to withstand having control of multiple edo tensei. That's why he isnt top 5 or even top 30 or close to that. the minute you have to use other people's body and chakra just so you can summon someone to do the dirty work for you. no it's not his power. unless he can do it with his own chakra and find a why without sacrificing then its HIS power alone. Do you see people summoning animals by sacrificing people? no they use their own chakra

I agree with the anko thing, then make it simply Kabuto's maximum limit of summon being Akatsuki + Madara which he effortlessly summoned against Tobi without Anko's chakra.

About the other part, no jus tnot. Kabuto only has to clap, he can summon them anytime anywhere.

This is like you said a Pokemon Master is weak because, they use the power of their pokemon to fight, they needed prep indeed (catch the pokemon) but it is done only once in a lifetime, yet no one claims a Pokemon Master is weak because of that. It is basically the same as edo tensei.

For example there is a pokemon named Arceus, which can create an universe. Thus any pokemon master that catched Arceus would can be rightfully said that he is stronger than anyone that cant replicate an universal feat. Despite having needed a once in a lifetime prep (catch arceus), being using the pokemon's power and having the risk of losing the pokemon if killed.

Is basically the same.

 

[Acnologia..]

1) Sage Of Six Paths
2) Sage Younger Son
3) Sage Older Son
4) Madara Uchiha
5) Tobi

 

[Rihari]

It is totally differnet, Naruto fighting for Sakura is a friend fighting for you, because he wants. He can say "**** you Sakura Im going home"

Edo Tenseis are a summon. They are controlled by the user, they cant do otherwise.

If Sakura planted a microchip in Naruto's brain that would allow her to control Naruto and then placed a seal that allowed her to summon Naruto anytime, anywhere, then yes it would be part of her power.

Not different, all his doing is brainwashing the dead to do his bidding.

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His using there strengths not his own. Bassically what your saying is Madara fighting the 5 Kage is not his power at all, It's Kabuto's. Which it isn't. That's Madara's power, and his alone, all his doing is fighting under Kabuto.

 

[Chaotic Blades]

I agree with the anko thing, then make it simply Kabuto's maximum limit of summon being Akatsuki + Madara which he effortlessly summoned against Tobi without Anko's chakra.

About the other part, no jus tnot. Kabuto only has to clap, he can summon them anytime anywhere.

This is like you said a Pokemon Master is weak because, they use the power of their pokemon to fight, they needed prep indeed (catch the pokemon) but it is done only once in a lifetime, yet no one claims a Pokemon Master is weak because of that. It is basically the same as edo tensei.

For example there is a pokemon named Arceus, which can create an universe. Thus any pokemon master that catched Arceus would can be rightfully said that he is stronger than anyone that cant replicate an universal feat. Despite having needed a once in a lifetime prep (catch arceus), being using the pokemon's power and having the risk of losing the pokemon if killed.

Is basically the same.

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This bitch had physic powers she was far from weak

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This ***** had weak pokemon because she was weak. What's your point? kabuto is a mastermind, he is not strong. the fool got beat up by 3 weak sound ninjas and a lil naruto. edo tensei is probably why he doesn't go fight. but even still it's not his.

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is equivalent to this kabuto

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[ShinobiEmperor]

Not different, all his doing is brainwashing the dead to do his bidding.

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His using there strengths not his own. Bassically what your saying is Madara fighting the 5 Kage is not his power at all, It's Kabuto's. Which it isn't. That's Madara's power, and his alone, all his doing is fighting under Kabuto.

And he can summon then anywhere, anytime. Kabuto can make use of their power anytime and anywhere so it is his power as long as he can wield it.

So basically, you arent entitled according to you, to be strong under the art of summoning?

 

[Rihari]

And he can summon then anywhere, anytime. Kabuto can make use of their power anytime and anywhere so it is his power as long as he can wield it.

So basically, you arent entitled according to you, to be strong under the art of summoning?

Well for one, he can't resurrect them anywhere. He can only resurrect them close to him, or near one of his resurrections.
Now remember the Naruto vs Pain fight. That summoning Pain was able to summon the other 5 Pain bodies to the battle ground. No one thought of the other 5 bodies as the summoning Pain's strength. Because it wasn't, they all had their own power.

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Notice how he said the power of the Uchiha, and not his own?

He is strong don't get me wrong, but the ninja's he resurrects is not added to his power. All it's doing is adding towards his military strength.

 

[Exaar]

edo tensei Is pure Hax, Like shisui's kotoamatsukami. (spelling)

 

[King of Hell]

I agree that he is in the Top 6 at least. Even with out Edo Tensei he still has the remarkable ability of his medical ninjutsu and regeneration which never stops working. Even after Naruto used his Rasengan on him, it wasn't long until he got back up and use his summoning jutsu to summon Manda.

 

[99minutes]

Hmmm, I wouldn't say he's in the top 5.

People have this unwavering belief that just because he ressurected dozens of powerful Shinobi, he's one of the greatest fighters out there. Edo Tensei (apparently) holds no risk. If that's the case, Konohamaru could use it, but we wouldn't count him in top 5, would we? o.o

We can only wait until he gets his own proper, fair battle. By fair, I mean: no-one interferes, he doesn't flee on Manda II like last time, and he goes all out with no back up.

 

[lanakau888]

He is number 2 possibly number 1 with all his edos. Just like summons, bijuu, and puppets are part of a nins strength, edo is also no matter how cheap the move actually is.

For now, without edo by hype he should be at least oro's level, by feats not quite there yet but at least kage level.

 

[ShinobiEmperor]

Hmmm, I wouldn't say he's in the top 5.

People have this unwavering belief that just because he ressurected dozens of powerful Shinobi, he's one of the greatest fighters out there. Edo Tensei (apparently) holds no risk. If that's the case, Konohamaru could use it, but we wouldn't count him in top 5, would we? o.o

We can only wait until he gets his own proper, fair battle. By fair, I mean: no-one interferes, he doesn't flee on Manda II like last time, and he goes all out with no back up.

Edo Tensei is his power, so its not an unfair battle. Just like Pain was considered Nagato's power.

Again, people have different strenghts, some are very good at space-time, others at genjutsu, others at ninjutsu, others at taijutsu and others at fuuinjutsu.

Why should the ninja that has special strenght in the art of summoning be looked down?

 

[King of Hell]

Edo Tensei is his power, so its not an unfair battle. Just like Pain was considered Nagato's power.

Again, people have different strenghts, some are very good at space-time, others at genjutsu, others at ninjutsu, others at taijutsu and others at fuuinjutsu.

Why should the ninja that has special strenght in the art of summoning be looked down?

I agree with this statement.