EMS > Nagatos rinnegan ???? WTF

[squigles]

Rinnegan is just another ninja tool. It's not about how good your tools are, but how you use them. That's how Sasuke was able to defeat someone with 10 minutes of Izanagi up time (Danzo) with just a regular mangekyo. Not to mention Danzo's right arm was basically a fusion of the 1st DNA with his own and if he hadn't been such a push over he could have easily beaten Sasuke.

Another example was Itachi's Amaterasu vs Sasuke's. Whenever Itachi used his it was just point and shoot, whatever it hit went up in flames. But when Sasuke used his against A, he was not only able to create the flames, but manipulate their shape into a shield AND use it on top of Susanoo.

Then there's the case of Kakashi's MS and how he can open/close space time barriers with it.

 

[naruto1246]

i dont think it matters which one is stronger than the other

 

[Itachi Minato]

i swear kishi said that the 3rd was the strongest in his prime

 

[arv993]

I said Nagato > EMS Madara when he was alive and not edo or rinnegan

Madara with kyuubi could destroy the current konoha but he couldn't destroy the one from Hashiramas time bec of wood release tamed kyuubi. Nagato would destroy that konoha bec he is stronger then Hashirama IMO (I admit we only seen few things from him) but styles makes fight and Nagato would absorb the wood tech with preta path. Nagato alone can destroy konoha while EMS madara has to rely on the powers of kyuubi.

And the reason why nagato was skinny was bec he chose a tech which absorb the souls of others has a result he had to give up his body energy. Has you can see from the vid he was fine before those black spikes entered his body. And what you said about him not having his natural body for the rinnegan is laughable bec the original rinnegan user (SO6P) had a strong body like Nagato. If anything the Uchiha don't have the right body for the rinnegan. I mean can you imagine an uchiha without senju cells if they got inserted with those black rods that Nagato did, they would die bec they don't have enough stamina.



and just you know it takes real skill with the gedo Mazo to summon it while your in another country and using a dead puppet (Deva path) while using a hologram tech to project the image of every Akatsuki member in all parts of the world into one point.
Nagato showing his mastery of the rinnegan and Gedo mazo mastered skills (40 + years at work)

i kno dude never said he is not skilled but madara is just superior with rinnegan and you're saying he is better than the uchihas and has the better body well tobi used the gedo without even connecting to the gedo shows higher mastery unlike nagato who was very hurt not to mention that madara's attacks are just on another scale thus him being the trump card. And as i said my point still holds true kyubi plus madara is a win for madara ems i don't think he can win by himself with just ems but with a summon like kyubi its very likely. and you can't just assume nagato can beat hashirama that is just bs we don't kno much about him other than the fact that he has mokuton. he also has good genjutsu skills and maybe other things up his sleeve so no you can't just make a bold statement like that. It is claer however that madara and tobi are superior in the use of the rinnegan from what they have shown us, nagato is not bad its just they are better and likely due to being the natural owner(madara not tobi).

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look at tobi he can use it while doing other things like teleporting to get the s06p pot and is not hurt wahtsoever

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look at nagato and look at tobi, nagato has to not only wait to sync up to gedo but is extremely hurt by it one of the causes for him so skinny and weak physically is due to use of rinnegan.

so you're telling me nagato is better with the rinnegan? i don't even have to post the meteor comparison its clear as day that madara's is superior. nagato is very powerful but does not seem on the level of these two from what we have seen so far.

 

[Tosen]

i kno dude never said he is not skilled but madara is just superior with rinnegan and you're saying he is better than the uchihas and has the better body well tobi used the gedo without even connecting to the gedo shows higher mastery unlike nagato who was very hurt not to mention that madara's attacks are just on another scale thus him being the trump card. And as i said my point still holds true kyubi plus madara is a win for madara ems i don't think he can win by himself with just ems but with a summon like kyubi its very likely. and you can't just assume nagato can beat hashirama that is just bs we don't kno much about him other than the fact that he has mokuton. he also has good genjutsu skills and maybe other things up his sleeve so no you can't just make a bold statement like that. It is claer however that madara and tobi are superior in the use of the rinnegan from what they have shown us, nagato is not bad its just they are better and likely due to being the natural owner(madara not tobi).

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look at tobi he can use it while doing other things like teleporting to get the s06p pot and is not hurt wahtsoever

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look at nagato and look at tobi, nagato has to not only wait to sync up to gedo but is extremely hurt by it one of the causes for him so skinny and weak physically is due to use of rinnegan.

so you're telling me nagato is better with the rinnegan? i don't even have to post the meteor comparison its clear as day that madara's is superior. nagato is very powerful but does not seem on the level of these two from what we have seen so far.

The Nagato me and your are talking abt are diff ur talking abt this

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While am talking abt this a prime healthy Nagato

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The Nagato u posted is healthy and mobile but not nearly has powerful has
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And the reason why Tobi does not appear skinny or affected by Gedo mazo is bec his using the tailed beast power while Nagato was using his fricking Bodu and stamina to power the whole thing.

You can say Tobi and Madara are stronger then Nagato but you cant say they have mastery of the rinnegan over him.

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Same size has the meteor.

 

[LolaxXx]

lol if Madara was still a live with the rinnegan in his eyes he can make his own 6 paths and just spam a meteor to konoha and its all over..

If Madara was still alive, 1st, he wouldnt be able to spam the meteor because Im sure something like that would take ALOT of chakra. Second, he would be killed in the impact, the only reason he was able to summon it so effortlessly was cuz he was edo tensei, meaning he pretty much has a limitless supply of chakra, AND he could regenerate.

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

Rinnegan trumps ems fact.

The thing is the wielder. Madara tobi itachi sasuke are betty equipped and all better with dojutsu usage as evident in manga.

Negato better equipped than danzo & kakashi, but an uchihas body and chakra are made for the dojutsu use.

Madara is from the clan that is from the rinnegan itself a clan that carries the secrets and legacy of the sage.

What im sayin is madara & those ive named as a shinobi trumps negato.

 

[TrollingSage]

If Madara was still alive, 1st, he wouldnt be able to spam the meteor because Im sure something like that would take ALOT of chakra. Second, he would be killed in the impact, the only reason he was able to summon it so effortlessly was cuz he was edo tensei, meaning he pretty much has a limitless supply of chakra, AND he could regenerate.

Hehe, good luck trying to get that point across. I've been trying since last week but it seems some people choose to ignore some parts of the manga just to feed their fanboyish fantasies.

 

[TrollingSage]

i kno dude never said he is not skilled but madara is just superior with rinnegan and you're saying he is better than the uchihas and has the better body well tobi used the gedo without even connecting to the gedo shows higher mastery unlike nagato who was very hurt not to mention that madara's attacks are just on another scale thus him being the trump card. And as i said my point still holds true kyubi plus madara is a win for madara ems i don't think he can win by himself with just ems but with a summon like kyubi its very likely. and you can't just assume nagato can beat hashirama that is just bs we don't kno much about him other than the fact that he has mokuton. he also has good genjutsu skills and maybe other things up his sleeve so no you can't just make a bold statement like that. It is claer however that madara and tobi are superior in the use of the rinnegan from what they have shown us, nagato is not bad its just they are better and likely due to being the natural owner(madara not tobi).

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look at tobi he can use it while doing other things like teleporting to get the s06p pot and is not hurt wahtsoever

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look at nagato and look at tobi, nagato has to not only wait to sync up to gedo but is extremely hurt by it one of the causes for him so skinny and weak physically is due to use of rinnegan.

so you're telling me nagato is better with the rinnegan? i don't even have to post the meteor comparison its clear as day that madara's is superior. nagato is very powerful but does not seem on the level of these two from what we have seen so far.

First of all you cant see Tobi has better control over Gedo because he doesnt need the rods. The reason why Nagato has those rods is because he used it to seal the souls of those soldiers. Tobi hasnt used it to seal yet and thats the reason why he has no rods. Until we see him sealing people without the rods you cant say he has better mastery of it.

 

[edgarmagician]

i swear kishi said that the 3rd was the strongest in his prime

You have a good point.