EMS > Nagatos rinnegan ???? WTF

[edgarmagician]

EMS is nothing but a power up and the Sharingan doesn't loose its light. Rinnegan is way stronger and yes Nagato's Rinnegan was better than Madara. It doesn't make sense to believe that someone who just started using the Rinnegan is better than someone who used it for many years. People keep saying, well Madara got his rinnegan because his eyes developed to it and were not given to him. Regardless, how did Madara know the jutsus that came with the Rinnegan?

 

[fanOFitachi]

Rinnegan is definitely better than EMS, as proven by the fact that apparently EMS can evolve into the Rinnegan. For those of you who try to say that doesn't mean Rinnegan is better the definition of evolve is: Develop gradually, esp. from a simple to a more complex form. Proof right there.

wtf !!!!!!!!just like cancer is uncontrolled development of cells silimarly rinnegan is crrupted development of uchihaa's pure eye hahahaha:flaw:

 

[Protozoid]

THE REAL QUESTION FOR EVERYONE NOW IS: "Can a Rinnegan user use all the techniques of MS AND EMS TOO??! ONLY THEN, WE CAN TELL WHO IS STRONGER THAN WHO.

Question answered:

Uh, I don't know what you're getting at entirely. But I'm assuming you're trying to say that the Rinnengan enables you to use MS/EMS exclusive techniques, which is false. It's reasonable to assume that he was able to use those techs because he had the level of mastery over the sharingan and the rinnengan that allowed him to use the both simultaneously. The rinnengan by no means can't utilize the power of the sharingan without the host having possession of it. That's not very feasible. Nonetheless, it is feasible.

 

[edgarmagician]

We all know that Rinnegan is obviously the best eye for now (who knows if kishi brings up something new) BUT FROM WHAT'S BEEN SEEN RINNEGAN IS THE BEST.

now now, Rinnegan has had 4 owners that we have seen: Rikudo Sennin, Madara, Tobi and Nagato. Knowing this we can begin thinking on that in experience Rikudou Sennin by HYPE is the most skilled, but in facts years of experience tell us that Nagato has the greater skills in experimenting with the eye itself. Nagato was not weak compared to the others, it is just that his eyes were SUPPOSEDLY given to him and not developed, maybe this way limiting the capacity of his Rinnegan (JUST A THEORY)

FOR ALL THOSE THAT SAY MADARA AND TOBI ARE BETTER THAN NAGATO.......

DUHHH.... OBVIOUSLY THEY CAN COMBINE THE POWERS OF EMS AND RINNEGAN DUHHH!

THE REAL QUESTION FOR EVERYONE NOW IS: "Can a Rinnegan user use all the techniques of MS AND EMS TOO??! ONLY THEN, WE CAN TELL WHO IS STRONGER THAN WHO.

Two things,
Tobi's Rinnegan is the Rinnegan he took from Nagato

Tobi has never shown that he has EMS.

 

[edgarmagician]

Also, if the Rinnegan is the evolved form of the EMS, doesn't that mean that Nagato also had the EMS powers.

The last question here is, once the EMS evolves to the Rinnegan, Can his eye's goo back to the EMS-MS-Sharingan-Normal? I guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[Protozoid]

Regardless, how did Madara know the jutsus that came with the Rinnegan?

Sorry to break it to you, but that's a natural feat in Naruto. Characters that obtain new special powers generally know what the techniques are and how to use them. Madara's case is no different.

 

[arv993]

EMS is nothing but a power up and the Sharingan doesn't loose its light. Rinnegan is way stronger and yes Nagato's Rinnegan was better than Madara. It doesn't make sense to believe that someone who just started using the Rinnegan is better than someone who used it for many years. People keep saying, well Madara got his rinnegan because his eyes developed to it and were not given to him. Regardless, how did Madara know the jutsus that came with the Rinnegan?

it does not take time for people to learn in naruto maybe nagato since he is not a true user but madara knew how to use rinnegan after he came out of the coffin. and let me ask you this how long did sasuke have ms yet he got the sussano and amaterasu real fast. and the secrets of the eyes are in the tablet probably reason why he knos its powers its not like he got the rinnegan and dropped stone cold dead he obviously used those powers seeing how he used it an impulse and not to mention he even says its been a while since i have seen this or something along those lines. its very clear nagato is inferior to him his ability to use the rinneagn without fatigue and use much larger versions of nagato's meteors goes to show it. and tobi not needing to sync gedo mazo also shows that he too is superior to nagato in its use.

 

[arv993]

Also, if the Rinnegan is the evolved form of the EMS, doesn't that mean that Nagato also had the EMS powers.

The last question here is, once the EMS evolves to the Rinnegan, Can his eye's goo back to the EMS-MS-Sharingan-Normal? I guess we'll have to wait and see.

he had those eyes transplanted very likely did u ever see him use sharingan powers or did u ever see him turn off his rinnegan no he never did a high likelihood he is not a true user and when do you think he achieved the ems when he was 3 years old and got the rinnegan when he was 7 lol. use common sense

 

[edgarmagician]

No I never saw Nagato turn his Rinnegan off and that's why I wrote the quastion. Have you seen Madara turn his Rinnegan Off, NO. So what is your point?

Maybe once you get the rinnegan you no longer have the EMS because the Rinnegan is already the evolved form of the EMS and is the eyes final and complete power.

 

[arv993]

No I never saw Nagato turn his Rinnegan off and that's why I wrote the quastion. Have you seen Madara turn his Rinnegan Off, NO. So what is your point?

Maybe once you get the rinnegan you no longer have the EMS because the Rinnegan is already the evolved form of the EMS and is the eyes final and complete power.

look at what madara does in chapter 560 he goes from a regular sharingan to ems to rinnegan he does not have to stay in rinnegan. and nagato does not have those kinds of powers becos he is not an uchiha he always has his rinnegan activated and he does not have the powers of ems so your theory right there is has no basis. have u seen him using genjutsu, sussano amaterasu or any types of those powers no right and not to mention uchihas who have shown rinnegan usage seem to superior aka tobi's use of gedo mazo and madara's meteor jutsu which is much superior in comparison. and when did he achieve ems when he was two years old no its just likely he has a transplant almost all evidence points to it.

 

[edgarmagician]

Your are right in the fact that he went from Sharingan to Rinnegan when he was about to get own by the RasenShuriken. I'm just wondering if he can go back to sharingan after evolving to Rinnegan.

I know that Madara said that he got those eyes shortly bafore dying. That could hint that he can go back. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Bluedevil]

Rinnegan is definitely better than EMS, as proven by the fact that apparently EMS can evolve into the Rinnegan. For those of you who try to say that doesn't mean Rinnegan is better the definition of evolve is: Develop gradually, esp. from a simple to a more complex form. Proof right there.

um no...?
evloution is simply a series of small mutation over a period of time, which can result in a complex species, but not always. This random mutation can be good or bad... such as cancer or simple and effective such as bacteria becoming resistant to anti-bacterial hand sanitizer or even the chimp/human resistance to the HIV virus.
My point is that this "evolution" of the shariengan is not evolution! For one it happens way too fast, two you can revert it back to a previous form, three it gives you extraordinary powers that do not involve the intake of light nor are even remotely simmular to any of the previous forms.
Now about one being better then another. Both have a purpose and advantages/ disadvantages. I don't like the whole "evolution" of the sharengan into the rinnigan but hey its not my story.

 

[Sagalian]

um no...?
evloution is simply a series of small mutation over a period of time, which can result in a complex species, but not always. This random mutation can be good or bad... such as cancer or simple and effective such as bacteria becoming resistant to anti-bacterial hand sanitizer or even the chimp/human resistance to the HIV virus.
My point is that this "evolution" of the shariengan is not evolution! For one it happens way too fast, two you can revert it back to a previous form, three it gives you extraordinary powers that do not involve the intake of light nor are even remotely simmular to any of the previous forms.
Now about one being better then another. Both have a purpose and advantages/ disadvantages. I don't like the whole "evolution" of the sharengan into the rinnigan but hey its not my story.

i agree. i know the ems can go into rinnegan but i think the rinnegan has its own separate powers. its sort of like switching modes to adjust to the situation.

so i dont think one eye is better than the other. i think they are their own entities, you just need EMS to get rinnegan.

 

[Sagalian]

um no...?
evloution is simply a series of small mutation over a period of time, which can result in a complex species, but not always. This random mutation can be good or bad... such as cancer or simple and effective such as bacteria becoming resistant to anti-bacterial hand sanitizer or even the chimp/human resistance to the HIV virus.
My point is that this "evolution" of the shariengan is not evolution! For one it happens way too fast, two you can revert it back to a previous form, three it gives you extraordinary powers that do not involve the intake of light nor are even remotely simmular to any of the previous forms.
Now about one being better then another. Both have a purpose and advantages/ disadvantages. I don't like the whole "evolution" of the sharengan into the rinnigan but hey its not my story.

i agree. i know the ems can go into rinnegan but i think the rinnegan has its own separate powers. its sort of like switching modes to adjust to the situation.

so i dont think one eye is better than the other. i think they are their own entities, you just need EMS (as far as eyes go) to get rinnegan.

 

[Naruto UzRinneganMaki]

first of all a rinnegan is rinnegan so you can't say a lower quality eyes are better then a higher quality eyes. With that said Nagtos rinnegan is getting underrated in this forum esp after chap 560 when they seen the meteor. Did you forget that Nagato took on the strongest village and succeeded where EMS Madara has failed and Tobi to. He destroyed Konoha, fought a lot of ninja took on 3 boss frogs and both ma and pa, took on kyuubi, revived konoha, id doubt that Madara EMS can do that.

And I stand by the fact that Nagato mastered the rinnegan very very very well.

I agree xd

 

[Ketszu]

What i'm curious about is that all we seen is the eyes of the sage of the six path at work, when are we going to see the body (naruto) at work.

 

[ShinobiEmperor]

Yes m8 I agree with you. And I think the only reason Madara's rinnegan looks to be so powerful is cause of the power boost from Kabuto, ability to switch back and forth to EMS. Even as a transplanted eye, Nagato's rinnegan would be able to go toe to toe against Madara's rinnegan.

I love Nagato, but he cant cast meteors. Nagato is confined to the abilities that apparently come from the Rinnegan (4 elements affinity and 6 paths) while Madara can use his previous jutsus to create new jutsus with the Rinnegan like the meteor.

Madara would win, he can use meteor twice and instantly while Nagato's best card is Chibaku Tensei.

 

[minatohokage]

first of all a rinnegan is rinnegan so you can't say a lower quality eyes are better then a higher quality eyes. With that said Nagtos rinnegan is getting underrated in this forum esp after chap 560 when they seen the meteor. Did you forget that Nagato took on the strongest village and succeeded where EMS Madara has failed and Tobi to. He destroyed Konoha, fought a lot of ninja took on 3 boss frogs and both ma and pa, took on kyuubi, revived konoha, id doubt that Madara EMS can do that.

And I stand by the fact that Nagato mastered the rinnegan very very very well.

yeah but ems plus rinnengan = ****ing crazy shit nigga

 

[TheLaw]

Rinnegan FTW.

 

[frenk]

Ems=charmeleon
Rinnegan=charizard