hiruzen sarutobi vs minato namikize

[TheLaw]

wind is a rarity among the five chakra natures that much was already stated... it's rare for shinobi to get that when compared to the other chakra natures...

What does that have to do with anything? It still a lie he can use any jutsu.

 

[Fnatic]

Why this arguing and rearguing?let's FIGHT!visit the link i give below and refer to the main section.then take hiruzen or any other member(s) in your team and start the battle!i and my friends are eager to FIGHT ANY NEWCOMER.you can even battle amongst yourselves if you like!

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hahaha.. some "sort" of advertising eh?...

 

[TheLaw]

hahaha.. some "sort" of advertising eh?...

And u are not allowed to advertise here =(

 

[Owarij]

Look at my updated post both of you.. It's kind of hard to keep up , when it's 2v1,

 

[devojoyti halder]

Hiruzen without any problem, he know nearly every jutsu of konoha. and he was not kage for 3 generations without any reason.
People say that minato ftg hiruzen, then i will say that we have not seen the full potential of prime hiruzen, and minato is too overrated.

 

[TheLaw]

Look at my updated post both of you.. It's kind of hard to keep up , when it's 2v1,

But wind was his main element, and he wasnt the first person to use it at leaf, im pretty sure of it. Even assuming that Hiruzen had 4 elements is just unreal.

Ofcourse i dont have any evidence, and i dont have time to re-read manga now. But still there is much more bigger change that he just cant do it. I gotta go to work soon so i cant argue longer. Have a nice day mate.

 

[Owarij]

But wind was his main element, and he wasnt the first person to use it at leaf, im pretty sure of it. Even assuming that Hiruzen had 4 elements is just unreal.

Urm yes he very well could have... maybe a few other kids got it also when they grew up.....Temari was the only person who could use wind in the entire group of ninja (untill naruto came)vs the raikage... and it was a large group... That shows how rare it is

 

[TheLaw]

Urm yes he very well could have... maybe a few other kids got it also when they grew up.....Temari was the only person who could use wind in the entire group of ninja (untill naruto came)vs the raikage... and it was a large group... That shows how rare it is

If i remember right she said she was the most powerful wind user, not the only one. Anyways gotta go now mate, have a nice day. if its even day time where u live.

 

[ItachiTAS]

And u are not allowed to advertise here =(

There's a fine line between advertising and telling people things that you feel to be good.
Btw i'm not it's admin.just a member but i find it a quite good concept.
Hiruzen sarutobi would LOSE if he is not in his prime(or an edo).and whether he would lose or not if he WERE in his prime is not deducable.(due to lack of credible information.)whether you know about FTG or not the technique itself remains the fastest.Standing in a lion's cave knowing that the lion will kill you isn't gonna help.(unless you're an elephant,which hiruzen is not).STB and FTG together will defeat him.

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

Jutsu

Dojutsu You said Sharingan wasn't a Jutsu, but then you call it Dojutsu, which is a jutsu...

I'm just saying re-phrase that...continue your argument.

Lmao retard by your re- phrasing it shows u don't understand anything being said. sharingan & byakugan can't be taught to someone its natural they grant u jutsu its not the effect of a jutsu get it?

As far as uchihas fire techniques old man sarutobi may know them also the sarutobi clan which is a clan has a close bond with da ino-shika-cho clans so its likely he knows their jutsu and almost all non dojutsu jutsu.

The senju like their cousins the uchihas excels in all areas being the prize student of their leaders just means he is likely well rounded + his teacher had a big ass scroll filled with jutsu which he had access to.

Lmao that dojutsu line was a good 1....

 

[Owarij]

If i remember right she said she was the most powerful wind user, not the only one. Anyways gotta go now mate, have a nice day. if its even day time where u live.

Ahh right correct. just reread a better translation

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[Uchihas with Big Guns]

If I may ask, what did you do to get banned so early. You've only been here since Oct.

Anyway Tsunade was credited to be the reason becasuse of her amazing medical abilitise, which we've seen demonstrated on a few occasions so we saw how she was given that credit, and how she was praised to such a high extent.

From what we've seen from the Uchihas...I mean really you don't think that from what we've seen from an Uchiha that we have evidence to why that would be so? Look at Sasuke, Shisui, Madara, Tobi, Itachi. We definatly know why people don't want to F*** with Uchihas. Anyway where did it say you were supposed to flee from an Uchiha rather then face them 1 on 1?

I'm not denying it, my memory may be shot, but I want to know where, even if you just point me to the Wiki, where did it say that?

I wasn't stating that Minato was the greatest war hero, I was just saying the proof to the rep he had. Iwa was said to flee when they saw Minato, and reason/evidence was given as to why. Hiruzen was called God of Shinobi and the professor. The evidence surrounding that is very vauge. It's not to say that he didn't live up to his title, but the evidence that stands right now is too vauge so people can't just say Hiruzen wins in his prime because he was God of Shinobi or bs like that. I mean you can, but it's not going to hold up as a legit argument that people will respect (not me at least).

Now for your logic as to how Minato may not be able to hit Hiruzen, take the amount of time it takes for Hiruzen to preform shadow clones, mud walls and such jutsu...now take the time it takes for Minato to teleport to him with Ftg. I'm just saying, if you can get to your opponent within a time interval when they're vulnerable you have the advantage.

This is an indecisive match if we're comparing Minato vs Hiruzen (prime). If it's Minato vs Hiruzen from what we've seen then that's another story.

Someone disrespected me and in my hood u die for such but since this is online said person gets to live but I expressed my feelings and thoughts for them. The snitch is on this thread but Ima keep the peace .

Now back to business! Lady chiyo said it when itachis clone was sent to distract them. Also we've seen clones and replacement jutsu done in split seconds the mud wall is to block the thrown kunai but also smoke bombs flares help with no vision minatos best combo fails.

I never said old sarutobi would win but he would make it tour but do believe him in his youth wins.

 

[Owarij]

Looks like all the people arguing against me left >.>I'll take that as my win as They couldn't deliver a point on why minato would win Goodnight then

 

[Braveknight]

Minato

 

[jarut0]

hiruzen, he taught minato

 

[FallfromGrace]

Minato, it's been stated couple of times in manga that Minato was better

 

[Owarij]

Minato, it's been stated couple of times in manga that Minato was better

The opposite has been stated..
It's never been stated that minato was better, I suggest you read the past few pages

 

[Nocturne]

minato....sarutobi is of combat fighter...and minato is too fast for him to catch...

 

[melvin008]

stamina is useless against speed forget about hiruzen's prime i posted the thread about hiruzen vs minato not hiruzen's prime vs minato
come to think of it minato never got to his own prime too coz he didn't achieve what he had in mind he wanted to infuse elemental chakra with the rasengan which he didn't acomplish...he could't learn the sage mode stuff ...to top it all he created two deadly justu infact it was three being the the demon god summoning the rasengan and the flying thunder god technique...all hiruzen did was to master other people's technique and of what use is knowing every technique when you can't actively use them in battle minato fought against bijuu and A together he also managed to seal the almighty kyuubi by his own hiruzen didn't have the gut to seal orochimaru after sealing too dummies...minato is the boss

 

[Ultimatevirus]

Exactly...
Manga and databooks clearly stated that Hiruzen was the strongest hokage, and the strongest kage of his time

Meaning
Prime
Hiruzen > Minato
Hiruzen > Hashirama
Hiruzen > Tobirama
Hiruzen > Oonoki
Hiruzen>3rd raikage
Hiruzen>Fourth Kazekage
Hiruzen> Yagura

It's clearly stated.... unless you wanna contradict kishis databooks and manga? and ride minato hard?

most people ackowledge that Hiruzen may just be equal to minato at the number 1 spot... but when you say hiruzen < Minato , that's just plain stupid after its been stated in the manga already

i again say that i agree with you only on databook...... but if u r arguing with me on the basis of manga thn i say minato is powerful......