hiruzen sarutobi vs minato namikize

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also that hiruzen himself stated if minato was here we could defeat oro(before fightin oro he said to that snake women , student of oro.)
plz read my whole post.... even 4th raikage , tsunade and others have acknoleged him as a gift to konoha
Firstly it was Anko who said that, not Sarutobi. Secondly the reason she said that is because she acknowledged that sarutobi was no where near his prime, saying that when the fight did happen, he didnt do too bad.
 

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Kishi and the manga disagree with you. So your saying just because Hiruzen hasn't shown anything in his prime means he can win against Minato? Wow that is some screwed up logic there. I'm pretty sure Hiruzen had more techniques than he's shown, but i'm also sure Minato does as well. Your basing everything you say off of speculation and nothing on facts, which is the worst way to decide a battle.



You're not serious are you?
Dont bring up that fake interview again, im tired of hearing it.
 

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I can come up with things that loads of characters have said, which isnt necessarily true. I doubt the person/people who said that had seen the other ninja's konoha had produced and compared
I could say the same thing about Hiruzen being called the strongest hokage. Jiraiya knew Hiruzen in his prime so clearly he thinks Minato's stronger than him. You need a better argument than oh just because he was called the god of shinboi he can win this fight. Fact is that's not even an argument.
 

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logical thought process would be to stick ur penis into a vagina
Do you jack off? probably... what do you do when you jack off? Stick your penis into a hole made by your hand...

is that logical?
no.

Me sticking my **** up a man's butt is just another way to get off... except I am good looking enough to get a man, while you can only getyour hand to do that for you.
 

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What is this Minato not in his prime stuff? Anyways i'm not saying Hiruzen can't win, but until we see more of him in his prime then it's impossible to tell.
The highlighted part, thats something you have to ask ganjababy and ultimatevirus. Anyway im saying that if sarutobi isnt in his prime, minato should win. If sarutobi was in his prime, i dont know
 

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Hiruzen was one of the most powerful shinobi in history. In fact, he was so powerful that he was admired as the God of Shinobi (忍の神, Shinobi no Kami) in his prime. According to Iruka, he was said to be the strongest Hokage that Konoha ever had as well as the strongest of all the five Kage during his era.[6] Even in his old age, Kabuto Yakushi considered him the strongest of the Five Kage at the time of his death.[7] Enma commented on his battle with Orochimaru, saying that it was "miserable" compared to his prime, even though he had clearly been able to hold his own against Orochimaru and two former Hokage without losing his composure. Even in his old age, his chakra was noted for being very strong, causing a dense effect on the atmosphere when released;[8] furthermore, he was known for having immense reserves of chakra in his youth.[9] He was also the longest living and longest reigning Hokage. Hiruzen also had keen senses, being able to track down the Hokage under Hashirama Senju's Bringer-of-Darkness Technique.


NOW SIT YOUR ASS DOWN BOY.
pheeeeeew...
Hiruzen was one of the most powerful shinobi in history. In fact, he was so powerful that he was admired as the God of Shinobi (忍の神, Shinobi no Kami) in his prime
one of the most... i think minato is among those powerful also...
god of shinobi???? even minato was considered as genious born very rarely...
According to Iruka, he was said to be the strongest Hokage that Konoha ever had as well as the strongest of all the five Kage during his era.
iruka???? wait that weakling.... then for your info jiraiya considered him saviour of world even when he dint reach his prime...
Even in his old age, Kabuto Yakushi considered him the strongest of the Five Kage at the time of his death
and guess what 4th raikage cursed minato for his sacrifice as minato had to die cecoz of the sacrifice and there was no one whom he could consider the saviour....
Enma commented on his battle with Orochimaru, saying that it was "miserable" compared to his prime, even though he had clearly been able to hold his own against Orochimaru and two former Hokage without losing his composure
you are talking about two dummy hokages who were nowhere near there true strength.... then listen tobi who had s/t jutsu and even the kyubi under his control even helped itachi to kill his clan people considered him as the only capable hokage other than hashirama....
Even in his old age, his chakra was noted for being very strong, causing a dense effect on the atmosphere when released;[8] furthermore, he was known for having immense reserves of chakra in his youth
and minato was so very feared by others that the shinobi's were instructed to leave the battlefield if they find the yellowflash..... u are talking about his chakra level?? then minato's ace jutsu ftg dont even use chakra of the user or if uses then its almost negligible....
He was also the longest living and longest reigning Hokage.
well thats agreed
Hiruzen also had keen senses, being able to track down the Hokage under Hashirama Senju's Bringer-of-Darkness Technique.
and also minato just like the 2nd hokage could youch his finger tip on the ground and can detect how many people are in the battlefield well now this is awesome....
go somewhere else kiddo....
 

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Wow, the ignorance from this Ganji dude.What's other people's personal business to you?

First off, this match up is dumb since we got no feats on hiruzen but going on hype he would destroy minato.

Second off, Hiruzen was the longest sitting hokage in history and he did it while surviving three wars(two as a kage).

Facts:

- God of shinibo(only other guy who got that privilege was the SO6P himself)
-The strongest hokage of them all ( fact from both manga and databook)
-The strongest Kage in his generation(facts from both manga and databook )
-The professor(He not only knew every jutsu in Konoha but also mastered them)
-Prodigy
-He had 5 in anything that wasn't affected by age(and several people mentioned during his fight that he was nowhere near his prime)
-Defeated two kages and managed to stop oro from taking over konoha,as a 68 years old man

Now, start reading the manga before you give out your opinion.
 
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Minato you freakin' morons. That includes you, Nilloc Uzumaki. Seeing as how I anticipate your entry in this thread for obvious reasons.

Hint: Topic.
 

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Wow, the ignorance from this Ganji dude.What's other people's personal business to you?

First off, this match up is dumb since we got no feats on hiruzen but going on hype he would destroy minato.

Second off, Hiruzen was the longest sitting hokage in history and he did it while surviving three wars.

Facts:

- God of shinibo(only other guy who got that priivilage was teh SO6P himself
-The strongest hokage of them all ( fact from both manga and databook)
-The strongest Kage in his generation(facts from both manga and databook )
-The professor(He not only knew every jutsu in Konoha but also mastered them)
-Prodigy
-He had 5 in anything that wasn't affected by age(and several people mentioned during his fight that he was nowhere near his prime)
-Defeated two kages and managaed to stop oro from taking over konha,a s 68 yers old man

Now, start reading the manga before you give out your opinion.
going with hypes?????
hmmmm.... okay ... i didnt know that datbook has given 5 for everything to him...
but wait.... read manga?????
then show me where in manga did he use any of the powerful technique that was to be feared.... he was aged, agreed but he should atleast show one or two powerful technique of his.....

you win the argument if we go by databook..... but you cannot win the argument if we go by manga.....
 

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Wow, the ignorance from this Ganji dude.What's other people's personal business to you?

First off, this match up is dumb since we got no feats on hiruzen but going on hype he would destroy minato.

Second off, Hiruzen was the longest sitting hokage in history and he did it while surviving three wars.

Facts:

- God of shinibo(only other guy who got that privilege was the SO6P himself)
-The strongest hokage of them all ( fact from both manga and databook)
-The strongest Kage in his generation(facts from both manga and databook )
-The professor(He not only knew every jutsu in Konoha but also mastered them)
-Prodigy
-He had 5 in anything that wasn't affected by age(and several people mentioned during his fight that he was nowhere near his prime)
-Defeated two kages and managaed to stop oro from taking over konha,a s 68 yers old man

Now, start reading the manga before you give out your opinion.
ur an idiot
 

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going with hypes?????
hmmmm.... okay ... i didnt know that datbook has given 5 for everything to him...
but wait.... read manga?????
then show me where in manga did he use any of the powerful technique that was to be feared.... he was aged, agreed but he should atleast show one or two powerful technique of his.....

you win the argument if we go by databook..... but you cannot win the argument if we go by manga.....
We can only go by hype because we have not seen hiruzen in his prime.So all we have is the information kishi has given us(The manga and the datbook both written by kishi).Understand now?

Absence of evidence is not evidence of abscense.The manga clearly stated that he mastered every tech in konoha, so until proven otherwise he can.Simple logic...

Yes he had 5 in nin,tai,gen and fuinjutsu.....
 

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We can only go by hype because we have not seen hiruzen in his prime.So all we have is the information kishi has given us(The manga and the datbook both written by kishi).Understand now?

Absence of evidence is not evidence of abscense.The manga clearly stated that he mastered every tech in konoha, so until proven otherwise he can.Simple logic...

Yes he had 5 in nin,tai,gen and fuinjutsu.....

Exactly...
Manga and databooks clearly stated that Hiruzen was the strongest hokage, and the strongest kage of his time

Meaning
Prime
Hiruzen > Minato
Hiruzen > Hashirama
Hiruzen > Tobirama
Hiruzen > Oonoki
Hiruzen>3rd raikage
Hiruzen>Fourth Kazekage
Hiruzen> Yagura

It's clearly stated.... unless you wanna contradict kishis databooks and manga? and ride minato hard?

most people ackowledge that Hiruzen may just be equal to minato at the number 1 spot... but when you say hiruzen < Minato , that's just plain stupid after its been stated in the manga already
 
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