Madara vs Minato

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NOT TOBI, the real Madara(the one we've seen in the last chapter fighting):
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From the evidence presented in the manga, i'd say Madara is the favorite and the 4th is the underdog, but not by much. We don't know exactly how smart Madara is, but the 4th was a genius. Madara has eye techs that would make a grow man weep on the other hand, has maasive chakra, speed, and has EMS with susanoo plus rinnegan.He also took control of the 9 tails and has a reputation for being one of the most fearsome shinobi ever. The 4th hokage, meanwhile is faster than Madara(or anyone else for that matter) and its almost 90 % confirmed that no sharingan can keep up with his body movements. Then there's the FTG, level 1 and 2 and his sealing jutsu's like the Dead Demon Seal. Also, shinobi in the 3rd ninja world war were given flee on sight orders if they even saw minato, so he was as feared as Madara.

So who do you think would win? Please back up your answer with proof from the manga which helps to support your view.
 
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@ Everyone: please give detailed answers why you think Madara or Minato would win. Otherwise you're just spamming.And Roofy128, yes its amazing people here would underestimate Minato, who was never beaten in his life and was probably the only person capable of taking Madara down apart from the Sage of the 6 paths. I honestly believe he can do that. Even if Madara has rinnegan. What tech can kill someone who can intantaneously move from 1 place to the next...?
 

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@ Everyone: please give detailed answers why you think Madara or Minato would win. Otherwise you're just spamming.And Roofy128, yes its amazing people here would underestimate Minato, who was never beaten in his life and was probably the only person capable of taking Madara down apart from the Sage of the 6 paths. I honestly believe he can do that. Even if Madara has rinnegan. What tech can kill someone who can intantaneously move from 1 place to the next...?
i wonder if minato would be able to move if madara used shinra tensie. its a strong gravitational pull depending on the chakra use and right now madara is showing some serious chakra reserves. i would think minato would have some trouble moving from place to place if he has to deal with other G forces from moving from place to place. and if madara used a quick amaterasu on him during the pull could minato escape that as well? having the combination of Rinnegan and Sharingan are like having two queens on a chess board and i dont know if you play chess but thats a serious advantage to your strategies
 

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i wonder if minato would be able to move if madara used shinra tensie. its a strong gravitational pull depending on the chakra use and right now madara is showing some serious chakra reserves. i would think minato would have some trouble moving from place to place if he has to deal with other G forces from moving from place to place. and if madara used a quick amaterasu on him during the pull could minato escape that as well? having the combination of Rinnegan and Sharingan are like having two queens on a chess board and i dont know if you play chess but thats a serious advantage to your strategies
I'm a big chess fan, but with minato its like he always has 3 pawns one step away from the end=becoming queens, which i'm sure you know if you play chess.
And no, gravity needs time to act. Minato can throw hundreds of kunai, hundreds of metres apart and teleport to them, or to kunai which are not in the range of shinra tensei......remember when chouji throws kunai at the God realm in the invasion of pain arc which barely miss him? If that were Minato he would have been pawnd. And the raikage dodged ametarasu, and he admitted being slower than minato was.
 

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I'm a big chess fan, but with minato its like he always has 3 pawns one step away from the end=becoming queens, which i'm sure you know if you play chess.
And no, gravity needs time to act. Minato can throw hundreds of kunai, hundreds of metres apart and teleport to them, or to kunai which are not in the range of shinra tensei......remember when chouji throws kunai at the God realm in the invasion of pain arc which barely miss him? If that were Minato he would have been pawnd. And the raikage dodged ametarasu, and he admitted being slower than minato was.
That is all true. and yes i love to play chess. Now what if Madara used his genjustu(normal or tsukyumi) thats also saying if Minato can be caught in genjustu which i really dont know. Madara can make it seem minato is effectively dodging his attacks and have minato teleport closer to madara. he could even control where minato throws the kunai so that madara knows the spots he will teleport to for a counterattack. now madara has destructive powers in his attacks and he can just destoy everything he wanted too. of course this is all if minato is caught in genjustu. i believe minato can dodge whatever madara throws at him and send them back to him causing madara confusion on whether or not to use certain attacks.
 

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That is all true. and yes i love to play chess. Now what if Madara used his genjustu(normal or tsukyumi) thats also saying if Minato can be caught in genjustu which i really dont know. Madara can make it seem minato is effectively dodging his attacks and have minato teleport closer to madara. he could even control where minato throws the kunai so that madara knows the spots he will teleport to for a counterattack. now madara has destructive powers in his attacks and he can just destoy everything he wanted too. of course this is all if minato is caught in genjustu. i believe minato can dodge whatever madara throws at him and send them back to him causing madara confusion on whether or not to use certain attacks.
Agree Minato can cause confusion. But genjutsu? It won't work. Why? Because Tobi the masked man used a powerful genjutsu to control the mizukage but was unable to use that on Minato.
 
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