Itachi vs kisame and kakashi

[Hammy120290]

Lets put it this way.

Kakashi - Beat by 1 path of pain
Kisame - Beat by Might Guy

Itachi - Beat Nagato and figured out + countered is 2nd most destructive jutsu.
Beat Kakashi with ease on their first meet without even trying.
You cannot see his handseals they are that fast he could counter water jutsu for water jutsu before Kisame could finish his.


Other points

A healthy Itachi is much stronger as he has more STAMINA...geez if you see the data book its 2.5

2.5

Do you realise what that means if he is at full health. That either goes to 5 or 4.5 = 37.5 or 38 total for the data book.

kakashi 34.5
Kisame 32.5

Note Kisame is 3.5 for hand seals
Kakashi is 5 for hand seals and Itachi is 3x faster than Kakashi.

I see no way even Kisame and Kakashi teamed up can win.

A sharingan in any person bar an Uchiha who tries to fight Itachi...fckd
Kisame...total 32.5 enough said really a large chakra reserve wont help him.

 

[Scotch]

lol that was waaaaay back from part 1, and its from anime.. everyone is taking forever to form handseals from part 1 besides itachi.

if you saw his fight with team guy and killer bee he barely perform handseals for his jutsu.

omg shut up dude.

he is not blocking amerterasu with a another i can't belive you think he fast enough

 

[kadowade]

you don't understand the situation dude. you got to think way better than that.. this is not 1on1, no, itachi wont fight kakashi first then kisame. itachi will fight both of them at the same time. and if kakashi and kisame fight in harmony they can actually beat itachi in
moderate difficulty.

kakashi knew how tsukoyomi works so it'll be useless to use against him. if itachi even manages to put kakashi in a genjutsu by pointing finger it can be broken because of kisame. remember what chio said regarding fighting against genjutsu, any genjutsu besides tsukoyomi can easily be countered if you have a partner with you, not to mension samehada can actually transfer its chakra to the user.

kisame can counter amaterasu with his high level water release, kakashi can read itachi's moves with his sharingan, kakashi can use kamui if they saw an opening or kisame can even force itachi to have an opening..

I admit itachi is almost unbeatable 1on1 but this is 2vs1 mofos! you gotta think all the possible scenarios that might happen before you conclude.

oh, and by the way A HEALTHY ITACHI IS NO BETTER THAN A SICK ITACHI. lol where did you even see a healthy itachi in action?!

Sorry im late,

So what if Kakashi knows how Tsukiyomi works, He isn't immune to it. He can still die from it. Do you actually believe you can fight a Kage-level ninja, by looking at their feet. fighting Itachi, by looking at his feet, Itachi wouldn't even take you serious. He will just Amaterasu him, since their not looking at his eyes, they wont even be aware of it

Yes Kisame can free Kakashi from regular Genjutsu, but we don't even know if Kisame knows ANYTHING about releasing a genjutsu.

Besides none of them can even keep up with Itachi attacks

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Not even the sharingan

And theres no way Kakashi and kisame would be able to find an opening for Itachi, because 1. Itachi has Susano'o which he can activate almost instantly, (As shown when he blocked "Kirin" a jutsu fast as lightneing). 2. He outsmarted Kakashi with Kage bunshins twice. Besides he can just keep casting a Genjutsu on one of them, when they escape since it only cost minimal chakra, to cast a simple finger Jutsu.

 

[Scotch]

the same guy whos arguing with me right now thinks nagato is immune to genjutsu

 

[Scotch]

Sorry im late,

So what if Kakashi knows how Tsukiyomi works, He isn't immune to it. He can still die from it. Do you actually believe you can fight a Kage-level ninja, by looking at their feet. fighting Itachi, by looking at his feet, Itachi wouldn't even take you serious. He will just Amaterasu him, since their not looking at his eyes, they wont even be aware of it

Yes Kisame can free Kakashi from regular Genjutsu, but we don't even know if Kisame knows ANYTHING about releasing a genjutsu.

Besides none of them can even keep up with Itachi attacks

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Not even the sharingan

And theres no way Kakashi and kisame would be able to find an opening for Itachi, because 1. Itachi has Susano'o which he can activate almost instantly, (As shown when he blocked "Kirin" a jutsu fast as lightneing). 2. He outsmarted Kakashi with Kage bunshins twice. Besides he can just keep casting a Genjutsu on one of them, when they escape since it only cost minimal chakra, to cast a simple finger Jutsu.

hey man some guy here thinks kisame can block amerterasu by using a water jutsu

 

[Hammy120290]

the same guy whos arguing with me right now thinks nagato is immune to genjutsu

Uh I hate that argument. Did they not see the fight against Jiraiya!

 

[khaydz5]

Lets put it this way.

Kakashi - Beat by 1 path of pain
Kisame - Beat by Might Guy

Itachi - Beat Nagato and figured out + countered is 2nd most destructive jutsu.
Beat Kakashi with ease on their first meet without even trying.
You cannot see his handseals they are that fast he could counter water jutsu for water jutsu before Kisame could finish his.


Other points

A healthy Itachi is much stronger as he has more STAMINA...geez if you see the data book its 2.5

2.5

Do you realise what that means if he is at full health. That either goes to 5 or 4.5 = 37.5 or 38 total for the data book.

kakashi 34.5
Kisame 32.5

Note Kisame is 3.5 for hand seals
Kakashi is 5 for hand seals and Itachi is 3x faster than Kakashi.

I see no way even Kisame and Kakashi teamed up can win.

A sharingan in any person bar an Uchiha who tries to fight Itachi...fckd
Kisame...total 32.5 enough said really a large chakra reserve wont help him.

lol this is funny. get out with your databook. if that databook is accurate you should respect it.. if kakashi is 5 in handseal and itachi is also 5 in handseal that only means they have the same SPEED.

if you don't wanna believe it don't even bring that to the equation that just makes you dumb.

omg shut up dude.

he is not blocking amerterasu with a another i can't belive you think he fast enough

lol that's right give up debating if you can't fight for it anymore.. you fail to determine facts from assumptions.

 

[kadowade]

how did you know kisame doesn't have fast reaction time??lol. dude you're just assuming.

someone from akatsuki is not having a fast reaction time lol.

Dude Raikage barely dodged it. Kisame is no where near Raikages speed.
Raikaged only dodged Amaterasu because in Ration armor V.2 his senses and Speed is dramatically increased.

 

[Scotch]

Uh I hate that argument. Did they not see the fight against Jiraiya!

Nagato fanboys out of all the have shown the worst understanding of the manga tho there not many of them.

this guy is prime example

 

[khaydz5]

Dude Raikage barely dodged it. Kisame is no where near Raikages speed.
Raikaged only dodged Amaterasu because in Ration armor V.2 his senses and Speed is dramatically increased.

again you didn't get what I said.. raikage activates raiton v2 coz he sense sasuke will use MS tech.. I did not say kisame will avoid amaterasu by dodging it.. there's a way to avoid something without dodging and thats what you fail to think of..

and btw raikage did not BARELY dodge it.. the fact is raikage EASILY DODGE IT.

 

[kadowade]

hey man some guy here thinks kisame can block amerterasu by using a water jutsu

WHAT?!xd He wouldn't even have time, besides, Amaterasu appears on the body. It dosent travel in a linear path like a Rasenshuriken.

The only was Kisame can block Amaterasu with water is if he covers his whole body in water, which is still useless, since Amaterasu will burn through it. Kisame is not THAT fast. lol

 

[Scotch]

lol this is funny. get out with your databook. if that databook is accurate you should respect it.. if kakashi is 5 in handseal and itachi is also 5 in handseal that only means they have the same SPEED.

if you don't wanna believe it don't even bring that to the equation that just makes you dumb.





lol that's right give up debating if you can't fight for it anymore.. you fail to determine facts from assumptions.

Fact amerterasu can be cast in a mili second.
fact kisame doesn't have fast handseals.

logical answer : no way can kisame form hand seals in that space of time

 

[Scotch]

WHAT?!xd He wouldn't even have time, besides, Amaterasu appears on the body. It dosent travel in a linear path like a Rasenshuriken.

The only was Kisame can block Amaterasu with water is if he covers his whole body in water, which is still useless, since Amaterasu will burn through it. Kisame is not THAT fast. lol

like i said nagato fans in particular seem to have the worst knowledge of naruto.

 

[khaydz5]

Nagato fanboys out of all the have shown the worst understanding of the manga tho there not many of them.

this guy is prime example

lol dude you're the one don't understand the manga.. you just know 1 thing. itachi can kill anyone in the manga. and that defines a fanboy.. this is not a nagato fight and im actually defending kisame and kaakshi not nagato.. just to let you know.

judging from this reply you are a sore loser.

 

[Hammy120290]

lol this is funny. get out with your databook. if that databook is accurate you should respect it.. if kakashi is 5 in handseal and itachi is also 5 in handseal that only means they have the same SPEED.

if you don't wanna believe it don't even bring that to the equation that just makes you dumb.

You're the one who looks dumb after somebody just posted a manga page showing itachis speed in HS's that Kakashi could barely follow....DUUUHHH!!

Also I didn't say it was accurate. It obviously isn't if both Kakashi and Itachi are at 5. But for HS's Kakashi is prob a 5 because of his Sharingan ability to copy and remember HS instantaneously.

 

[kadowade]

again you didn't get what I said.. raikage activates raiton v2 coz he sense sasuke will use MS tech.. I did not say kisame will avoid amaterasu by dodging it.. there's a way to avoid something without dodging and thats what you fail to think of..

and btw raikage did not BARELY dodge it.. the fact is raikage EASILY DODGE IT.

You still saw how close it was. Yes he did easily dodge it though.

And the only reason Raikage knew Sasuke used MS was because Sasuke used Susano'o to sheild himself from liger bomb. And C said something about it

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[khaydz5]

WHAT?!xd He wouldn't even have time, besides, Amaterasu appears on the body. It dosent travel in a linear path like a Rasenshuriken.

The only was Kisame can block Amaterasu with water is if he covers his whole body in water, which is still useless, since Amaterasu will burn through it. Kisame is not THAT fast. lol

Fact amerterasu can be cast in a mili second.
fact kisame doesn't have fast handseals.

logical answer : no way can kisame form hand seals in that space of time

you itachi fanboys are so simple minded.. I didn't say kisame will perform his jutsu while itachi shoots out the amaterasu.. Im pointing out that kisame/kakashi can prepare for it even BEFORE itachi shoots it out.

god what are your ages.. you just think like kids.lol

 

[Scotch]

lol dude you're the one don't understand the manga.. you just know 1 thing. itachi can kill anyone in the manga. and that defines a fanboy.. this is not a nagato fight and im actually defending kisame and kaakshi not nagato.. just to let you know.

judging from this reply you are a sore loser.

1.nope i think minato, nagato (six paths), sasuke (current), madara and hiruzen can kill him

you think nagato is immune to genjutsu.

3 people including myself have allready destroyed your argument.

go home, and itachi is still wining the discusion.

 

[Hammy120290]

Note I am not an Itachi fanboy. I just don't see any logic in Itachi losing this fight.

All you seem to be doing is arguing about Kisame....he is NOWHERE near the strength of Itachi. Kakashi yes(in general because of his Sharingan) but against an uchiha that advantage is lost.

 

[Sasori of the six paths]

WHAT?!xd He wouldn't even have time, besides, Amaterasu appears on the body. It dosent travel in a linear path like a Rasenshuriken.

The only was Kisame can block Amaterasu with water is if he covers his whole body in water, which is still useless, since Amaterasu will burn through it. Kisame is not THAT fast. lol

well if it doesnt travel in a linear motion and it appears on the body then how did gaara block it with his sand?