Itachi vs Pain

Itachi vs Nagato

  • Itachi

    Votes: 236 48.2%
  • Pain

    Votes: 236 48.2%
  • Draw

    Votes: 57 11.6%

  • Total voters
    490
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FloriGlori

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amaterasu is slow as it couldnt completely burn raikage's arm, and normal fire could act faster than that. the rest I must hav explained b4
..excuse me, but are you dumb? I gave proof in my post, look at how fast the crow was turned to ashes. Raikage was wearing his Raiton armor, that's why it didn't burn him that fast. That armor even blocked Sasuke's Kusanagi, which was able to cut through metal like it was butter.

Please inform yourselves properly before you act like you could discuss. As I said, Genjutsu works. Paralyzing illusions like Magen: Kasegui don't even need eye contact, it's enough to look at the enemie - that's how Kishi says it in the Scrolls of Sha. Chibaku Tensei can be destroyed, by either killing Tendo with Amaterasu, or using it to destroy the core before it attracted to many stones. Since Chibaku Tensei acctracts everything, it'd also attract Amaterasu, and it wouldn' take long to incinerate the small core. In the manga there was no need for Amaterasu, because Itachi had Bee & Naruto. So why should he waste his black flames which damage his body pretty bad? In addition he educated the Jinchuuriki before he did something, Bee even had enough time to transform into Hachibi - all that while Chibaku Tensei was already activated. So, if Itachi would've wanted to, he could've acted way earlier.

Moreover I see no arguments against Amaterasu or Susanoo. Totsuka is a spirit weapon, an unique object, therefore it can't be absorbed. Otherwhise Nagato would have done so, wouldn't he? Saying that it's all due to the plott is nothing but a ridiculous excuse for those who don't have any arguments.
 

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do u have proof he can absorb it, no its fuinjutsu tech not a ninjutsu one so it makes sense that he could not absorb it. and now ur saying nagato let him do it your faboyism is beyond words dude xd xd. when was nagato able to absorb fuinjutsu or sealing techs so it makes sense he can't absorb it. trying to prove he is God now saying he can just beat everything there is no point in conversing with you.
I agree its fuijutsu not ninjutsu so it cant be absorbed, its a sword imbedded with fuinjutsu so it cant be absorbed
 

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..excuse me, but are you dumb? I gave proof in my post, look at how fast the crow was turned to ashes. Raikage was wearing his Raiton armor, that's why it didn't burn him that fast. That armor even blocked Sasuke's Kusanagi, which was able to cut through metal like it was butter.

Please inform yourselves properly before you act like you could discuss. As I said, Genjutsu works. Paralyzing illusions like Magen: Kasegui don't even need eye contact, it's enough to look at the enemie - that's how Kishi says it in the Scrolls of Sha. Chibaku Tensei can be destroyed, by either killing Tendo with Amaterasu, or using it to destroy the core before it attracted to many stones. Since Chibaku Tensei acctracts everything, it'd also attract Amaterasu, and it wouldn' take long to incinerate the small core. In the manga there was no need for Amaterasu, because Itachi had Bee & Naruto. So why should he waste his black flames which damage his body pretty bad? In addition he educated the Jinchuuriki before he did something, Bee even had enough time to transform into Hachibi - all that while Chibaku Tensei was already activated. So, if Itachi would've wanted to, he could've acted way earlier.

Moreover I see no arguments against Amaterasu or Susanoo. Totsuka is a spirit weapon, an unique object, therefore it can't be absorbed. Otherwhise Nagato would have done so, wouldn't he? Saying that it's all due to the plott is nothing but a ridiculous excuse for those who don't have any arguments.
you're seriously comparing a "crow" to an s-rank jutsu?

and you think using susanoo instead wouldnt do any harm on itachi's side? lol.

you're dumber dude.

lastly, now you saying that since nagato didn't absorb the susanoo/totsuka sword therefor he CAN'T, right? but when itachi DIDN'T use amaterasu on CT it doesn't mean he CAN'T??!
this proves how biased you are in comparison..

the fact is, you are just assuming.. you cannot accept the reality that itachi really needed help.. get a life.
 

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..excuse me, but are you dumb? I gave proof in my post, look at how fast the crow was turned to ashes. Raikage was wearing his Raiton armor, that's why it didn't burn him that fast. That armor even blocked Sasuke's Kusanagi, which was able to cut through metal like it was butter.

Please inform yourselves properly before you act like you could discuss. As I said, Genjutsu works. Paralyzing illusions like Magen: Kasegui don't even need eye contact, it's enough to look at the enemie - that's how Kishi says it in the Scrolls of Sha. Chibaku Tensei can be destroyed, by either killing Tendo with Amaterasu, or using it to destroy the core before it attracted to many stones. Since Chibaku Tensei acctracts everything, it'd also attract Amaterasu, and it wouldn' take long to incinerate the small core. In the manga there was no need for Amaterasu, because Itachi had Bee & Naruto. So why should he waste his black flames which damage his body pretty bad? In addition he educated the Jinchuuriki before he did something, Bee even had enough time to transform into Hachibi - all that while Chibaku Tensei was already activated. So, if Itachi would've wanted to, he could've acted way earlier.

Moreover I see no arguments against Amaterasu or Susanoo. Totsuka is a spirit weapon, an unique object, therefore it can't be absorbed. Otherwhise Nagato would have done so, wouldn't he? Saying that it's all due to the plott is nothing but a ridiculous excuse for those who don't have any arguments.
1. He doesnt get damage from his body as he is an edo tensei now and he proved it by using amaterasu on the bird when he could have just destroyed d eye with kunai or used normal fire


2. He used his most powerful long range attack which is Yasaka Magatama, the reason he didnt use amaterasu is because it will ignite 1 of the flying rocks that are above and not the sphere but Yasaka's magatama can destrroy those things and get to the sphere being not sure that it can destroy the sphere, he asked the Jinchuuriki for help


3. Where can I get this scrolls of sha? As for the genjutsu, when chibaku tensei is active it wont matter and Ive explained ways the paths can break genjutsu, we are considering the six paths, not Nagato alone, go to my thread called the six paths can counter all genjutsu,


4. susanoo will bite the dust against chibaku tensei


5. amaterasu cant do anything against chibaku tensei cuz it will ignite the rocks in the sky, not the sphere. and if he attacks the pains with it, it would be absorbed by the preta path


6. as for totsuka, he cant absorb it but under the pull of chibaku tensei it wont matter and he couldnt see it coming cuz of the dust cover of chibaku tensei falling apart and all his eyes in the battle field were rendered useless. this wont happen if Itachi is facing the six paths. and if Itachi attacks them before pain does chibaku tensei the deva pain will repel it or deflect it with a summon(animal path) and since they have mobility unlike Nagato, they will dodge it.

7. Raikage turned off his raiton armor when Gaara came and the flames didnt iinstantly incinerate his arm, they still stayed where they were. See link-


8. dont call ppl dumb, its not nice.
 
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1. He doesnt get damage from his body as he is an edo tensei now and he proved it by using amaterasu on the bird when he could have just destroyed d eye with kunai or used normal fire


2. He used his most powerful long range attack which is Yasaka Magatama, the reason he didnt use amaterasu is because it will ignite 1 of the flying rocks that are above and not the sphere but Yasaka's magatama can destrroy those things and get to the sphere being not sure that it can destroy the sphere, he asked the Jinchuuriki for help


3. Where can I get this scrolls of sha? As for the genjutsu, when chibaku tensei is active it wont matter and Ive explained ways the paths can break genjutsu, we are considering the six paths, not Nagato alone, go to my thread called the six paths can counter all genjutsu,


4. susanoo will bite the dust against chibaku tensei


5. amaterasu cant do anything against chibaku tensei cuz it will ignite the rocks in the sky, not the sphere. and if he attacks the pains with it, it would be absorbed by the preta path


6. as for totsuka, he cant absorb it but under the pull of chibaku tensei it wont matter and he couldnt see it coming cuz of the dust cover of chibaku tensei falling apart and all his eyes in the battle field were rendered useless. this wont happen if Itachi is facing the six paths. and if Itachi attacks them before pain does chibaku tensei the deva pain will repel it or deflect it with a summon(animal path) and since they have mobility unlike Nagato, they will dodge it.

7. Raikage turned off his raiton armor when Gaara came and the flames didnt iinstantly incinerate his arm, they still stayed where they were. See link-


8. dont call ppl dumb, its not nice.
itachi can use yasakas magatama against chibaku tensei
 

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itachi can use yasakas magatama against chibaku tensei
Thats stupid it won't break chibaku. It would be smarter if he Just Amaterasu'ed, or placed a Genjutsu on Nagato while he preparing Chibaku Tensei to disable Chibaku Tensei, and immobilize Nagato for a period of time. Even if Nagato knew "how" to escape a Genjutsu which he probably dosen't, Itachi can still place another one or use Tsukiyomi which Nagato won't be able to escape since he's not related to Itachi, nor does he have the Sharingan.
 

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the only full fledged sharingan user that itachi used tsukiyomi on was sasuke and he only had a regular one with a puny curse mark and was able to break that shit, so if itachi used it on the rinnegan a set of eyes even beyond the eternal mangekyou sharingan(nagato) than nagato would break tsukiyomi like it was an egg shell plus if you give him back his mobility, gedo mazo, how the **** is itachis sorry ass suppose to win when itachi by himself has no answer to planetary devastation!? thats crazy! not to mention nagatos a ****in militant hes able to do much more complicated tactics and strategics plans than itachi is and actually complete them by himself so one on one itachis intelligence is not a threat to nagato at all, hell!!!if nagato had his mobility itachis intelligence wouldnt have been a threat facing him killbee and naruto lmfao! itachi losses to both pein and nagato
 

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Comparing pain to itachi is a fluke.
DUH ITACHI IS GOING TO LOSE.

If you guys havent watch lately...kishi is giving us different ways in mobilising with susano...if someone could can you get me a manga of itachi or sasuke or madara in the air with a full fledge sussano??

And if you watch the sasuke vs itachi closely....HE HAS TO USE THE THE SHIELD....ITS NOT AN ARMOUR..its a shield..meaning he has to POINT the shield at something in order to repel it...

6 PAIN, 1 shield...itachi isnt quite invincible. lets list the factors of ways Itachi could only win...the three abilities that a person with MS has....thats the only way itachi could win and considering these are his LAST RESORTS..thats pretty funny isnt it..using your last resorts as the first thing to do agaisnt the pain.

amatersu...okay lets just get the fact that this jutsu has been said to be the hottest flames...yet NO ONE HAS DIED OF IT. WTH A samurai in a hot steel outfit survived it for more than 5 minutes!!

Susano...im assuming without using chibaku tensei..since no Itachi fanboy can back up that itachi can destroy chibaku tensei by himself....that all the pain has to do...is dodge. while itachi suffers complete blood coughing.. think about it. Totsuka is just a sword, its not a super weapon where it could swing in 1 second. with 6 vision of pain, there is no way they could be hit soo recklessly. Sure itachi has that aerial technique, it doesnt look like something pain can dodge since...it only took 3 pain to dodge one of jiraya's fastest technique.

Tsukiyomi, this is the only one we can not prove but you can just say that once itachi uses this it is all over..if you did say that you are retarded as hell...thats like saying "why didnt madara just use tsukiyomi on the 1st hokage" he probably did and still lost.../ plus, and im assuming what nagato would do if the pain would face the tsukiyomi..cant nagato just disable the chakra flow on the body leaving them into dead body and return once itachi uses it on nothing..just assuming.

Normal fighting..theres not much to say but itachi getting fuked up...again we are saying a 1vs1 where itachi doesnt know about pain's secret since no one did..but the MS is soo known that EVERYONE knows what it does lololol. taijutsu? didnt we see kiba and his squad, high level taijutsu, couldnt catch up with the human path? Jiraya with the two sages were barely able to keep up using taijutsu and you think itachi could. also know..that if human path touches itachi's head..its over, his soul gets yanked out. And to say that while having multiple lazers and bullets, and summmonig at him, with the strongest pain, deva...WHO HAS MASTERED ALL ELEMENTS.

i wanna see who can back all of these flaws itachi has..
 

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wtf is this...... did itachi not lose to nagato's chibaku tensei? ...... if he was alone he was dead.........Tsukyomi won't work on dead bodies (ie pain) , amaterasu will be absorbed by the chakra sucking path.....Be real ,, chibaku and its over
 
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