Itachi vs Pain

Itachi vs Nagato

  • Itachi

    Votes: 236 48.2%
  • Pain

    Votes: 236 48.2%
  • Draw

    Votes: 57 11.6%

  • Total voters
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arv993

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Look how is it not valid proof. WHY wud kishi show us that the other Pains aren't in the genjutsu, if they were then J-man wud of killed them too. Thats like saying when kona hit the Pain path with rasengan then Teno did not see that. I know it does not make sense, he probably did not. lol. The only reason they all closed their eyes were becuz they did not want to risk looking at it. Kakashi jus said both of u close ur eyes because it wud of been weird if he said "Asuma close ur eyes" and Kurenai wud of been like wtf do i do. He does not need to start off blind folded! He can just close his eyes in the fight! The truth is that from what we know, Pain can get his paths to take the hit, whether it be a genjutsu or amatarasu and then cast CT. So this is y I am saying Pain has the edge.
tsukiyomi is instant and can get him if he sees him and also i told u he can also use genjutsu without eye contact to get deva like he did to oro. And also that is not proof he only came after the genjutsu was dispelled not b4 it that tells u something does it not there is no concrete proof on this man i keep repeating that and u don't have it and neither do i cos we are not kishi. And also ur making the assumption that they did not risk to see itachi's tsukiyomi what if it did work there is no concrete proof on this either but who are we to say waht is right and wrong when there is the possibility of both having a chance to be true. And itachi can get ppl in genjutsu without eye contact like oro and can seal deva after amaterasu would kill all other paths and preta is not a problem, either since he can be dealt with genjutsu, taijutsu or sealed. itachi has edge on this one since itachi does not need eye contact for all genjutsu and tsukiyomi is anyway fast and all other paths are pretty much done 4 by amaterasu.
 

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Look how is it not valid proof. WHY wud kishi show us that the other Pains aren't in the genjutsu, if they were then J-man wud of killed them too. Thats like saying when kona hit the Pain path with rasengan then Teno did not see that. I know it does not make sense, he probably did not. lol. The only reason they all closed their eyes were becuz they did not want to risk looking at it. Kakashi jus said both of u close ur eyes because it wud of been weird if he said "Asuma close ur eyes" and Kurenai wud of been like wtf do i do. He does not need to start off blind folded! He can just close his eyes in the fight! The truth is that from what we know, Pain can get his paths to take the hit, whether it be a genjutsu or amatarasu and then cast CT. So this is y I am saying Pain has the edge.
No, Kakashi already knew he was caught, then he told them to close their eyes, so they wont get caught with him. Look at the video. You can see KAkashi all tense and scared, before he even told them to close theirs. Itachi already knew he was caught
 
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Kadowade no offence but from this video you seem like an emo :) and you missed out the part where kakashi says he will take him on with his sharringan but he underestimates Itachi which isnt a wise thing to do
 

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yo can u pls stop multiposting its against the rules if u want to say something i suggest do it in one post. and kadowade nd twerdos bring up good points no need to hate or call them "side" debaters.
 

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Kadowade no offence but from this video you seem like an emo :) and you missed out the part where kakashi says he will take him on with his sharringan but he underestimates Itachi which isnt a wise thing to do
This was the 1st video i was so i just picked it.
And Hell no im not emo. Why would i hurt myself on purpose, thats just retarted.

And yeah Kakashi tried to battle with his. Itachi said " With your Sharingan you may have some resistant to my jutsu"
 
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Kado, if genjutsu doesn't work on edos so wouldn't koto. But it did, its not the level of strength the genjutsu must have, if gen jutsu doesn't work it doesn't work. Also Pain wud win, all he wud need to do is close his eyes and let his paths be in the genjutsu while he is casting CT, his paths can def hold off Itachi for a while and then Itachi wud die cuz of CT.
 

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Kado, if genjutsu doesn't work on edos so wouldn't koto. But it did, its not the level of strength the genjutsu must have, if gen jutsu doesn't work it doesn't work. Also Pain wud win, all he wud need to do is close his eyes and let his paths be in the genjutsu while he is casting CT, his paths can def hold off Itachi for a while and then Itachi wud die cuz of CT.
there is genjutsu that does not need eye contact example one against oro, and he can use tsukiyomi on deva even after that. and tsukiyomi is almost unavoidable since its fast and effective. KA is the only genjutsu strong enough to affect edo tesnei aka break him from it which was said by kabuto. his paths can all be done(except preta but he can be dealt with genjutsu or sealed) by amaterasu and if he tries to use CT he can just stop him by genjutsu b4 it even takes effect that does not require eye contact or if he is opening his eyes tsukiyomi which would likely get him in the beginning of the battle anyway. and sussano's sword can seal him too once he just immobilizes him. deva has to get close to nagato to use CT and its slow and itachi can catch him in genjutsu at that point, kill 4 paths with amaterasu just by looking at them(pretty much instant). and only has to deal with preta who can just be sealed, killed by taijutsu or immobilized by genjutsu. itachi healthy can do this not to mention is also a quick thinker and can come upp with a plan like this to take em out but thats my opinion on this.
 
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Kado, if genjutsu doesn't work on edos so wouldn't koto. But it did, its not the level of strength the genjutsu must have, if gen jutsu doesn't work it doesn't work. Also Pain wud win, all he wud need to do is close his eyes and let his paths be in the genjutsu while he is casting CT, his paths can def hold off Itachi for a while and then Itachi wud die cuz of CT.
Only one Genjutsu works on Edo Tensei's.

I say itachi would win , Because in Susano'o, Pains paths would get treated like rag dolls. Then He would Crush, or Punch, Or SLice Deva path since he has to wait 5 seconds to use Shinra tensei again, and he could be destroyed within that time.. The only thing that could keep him safe from Susano'o is Shinra tensei, which has a 5 second interval. All Itachi has to do is spam Punches, like Sasuke did. Or use his Yasa no matagama technique after Shinra tensei is used
 

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Oh and all his Genjutsu dosent require any eye contact.
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So It's gonna be nearly impossible for pain to keep avoding a Genjutsu, that ITachi can just keep casting
 

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is the argument that genjutsu doesn't work on edos but koto does this really make sense to you.eye contact would work on the edo summons their brain is still active.any genjutsu works it just the question is will it be affective against the one it's being used on insomecases it won't because they are able to be resistant to it.
 

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He cannot use other paths while using Chibaku Tensei. Thats why he took away all the other ones, and used only the Deva path. Plus Chibaku Tensei would destroy his paths.


He cannot free his other paths from Genjutsu because in order to escape, you need a DIFFRENT source of chakra to disrupt his. ALl the paths have the same source which is Nagato. And the reason Itachi couldnt use Genjutsu on Nagato was because He was an Edo tensei. Genjutsu wont work on him. Only 1 Genjutsu is strong enough to work on Edo tensei and thats kotoamatsukami. So Genjutsu wasent an option for Itachi because Nagato was an Edo tensei.




Lmao just keep watching the video, you'll see.xd
Only one Genjutsu works on Edo Tensei's.

I say itachi would win , Because in Susano'o, Pains paths would get treated like rag dolls. Then He would Crush, or Punch, Or SLice Deva path since he has to wait 5 seconds to use Shinra tensei again, and he could be destroyed within that time.. The only thing that could keep him safe from Susano'o is Shinra tensei, which has a 5 second interval. All Itachi has to do is spam Punches, like Sasuke did. Or use his Yasa no matagama technique after Shinra tensei is used
Itachi first needs to figure out the 5 sec interval and while Itachi is treating the paths like dolls a CT wud be caste. And even if the CT will kill the paths which it probably won't since it does not affect deva, then Itachi wud still die either way.
 

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is the argument that genjutsu doesn't work on edos but koto does this really make sense to you.eye contact would work on the edo summons their brain is still active.any genjutsu works it just the question is will it be affective against the one it's being used on insomecases it won't because they are able to be resistant to it.
No. Theres only 1 Genjutsu that can break Edo tensei. Thats already stated.
Dosen't matter who the Edo Tensei is, as long as they are an Edo tensei, NO other Genjutsu would overpower the Impure resserection, except Kotoamatukami.
 

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Itachi first needs to figure out the 5 sec interval and while Itachi is treating the paths like dolls a CT wud be caste. And even if the CT will kill the paths which it probably won't since it does not affect deva, then Itachi wud still die either way.
Only Deva path is the epicenter, so everything other than him would be affected.

And since Deva is the most troublesome one, Itachi would definatly get rid of him first. By just spamming punches, and Deva path has to be stationed when using Chibaku Tensei, meaning he has to stay still, and focus. And then he would easily become an easy target for Itachi to crush, or slice. Or he can just Amaterasu Pain, while he's trying to use Chibaku Tensei.
 

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Only Deva path is the epicenter, so everything other than him would be affected.

And since Deva is the most troublesome one, Itachi would definatly get rid of him first. By just spamming punches, and Deva path has to be stationed when using Chibaku Tensei, meaning he has to stay still, and focus. And then he would easily become an easy target for Itachi to crush, or slice. Or he can just Amaterasu Pain, while he's trying to use Chibaku Tensei.
yeah but the other paths aren't just gonna stand there, knowing Pain, he'll usually start off by having animal path summing a bunch of animals, and the deva path will be in back protected by the preta path. The other ones can support also with the asura path's missiles and chainsaws, and Deva's pushing and pulls abilities along with the shared vision.
 
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