Flying Thunder God Technique not all it's cracked up to be

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How is amateratsu useless you can't remove it once it gets on you atleast if your not madara and I doubt minato could out flash lightning if sasuke timed kirin right before Minato could blink his ass is grass. OK lets say he can dodge every attack how the hell is he going to get inside susano'o so Minato can't beat Itachi or Sasuke but neither can they beat him. And sasuke see minato coming with sharingan because your video proves it he dodged A's punch and dodged Bees fast attack when they were fighting him hence doing what minato did that you claimed was so great.
Sasuke dodged A's level 1 lighting armor

Level 2 sasuke can't even track A and FTG > level 2 lightning armor,

Sasuke or itachi wouldn't be able to track FTG even with the sharingan, Also he wouldn't have to beat susanoo he can simply dodge till susanoo ruins their bodys and they run out of chakra

Btw anyways this isn't a vs thread -_-
 

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How is amateratsu useless you can't remove it once it gets on you atleast if your not madara and I doubt minato could out flash lightning if sasuke timed kirin right before Minato could blink his ass is grass. OK lets say he can dodge every attack how the hell is he going to get inside susano'o so Minato can't beat Itachi or Sasuke but neither can they beat him. And sasuke see minato coming with sharingan because your video proves it he dodged A's punch and dodged Bees fast attack when they were fighting him hence doing what minato did that you claimed was so great.
ms sasuke would be dead before kirin even use or thought about using xd and hey you know when they start to power for for sasunoo and they show the little charka slowly appearing forming the sasunoo perfect time for a yellow flash, and cough itachi block it with his sasunoo the kirin right? guess what did you forget for the 3 time i said it minato has space time barrier? gosh read what it does and you understand, he can warp that sht back at sasuke >.>
 

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How is amateratsu useless you can't remove it once it gets on you atleast if your not madara and I doubt minato could out flash lightning if sasuke timed kirin right before Minato could blink his ass is grass. OK lets say he can dodge every attack how the hell is he going to get inside susano'o so Minato can't beat Itachi or Sasuke but neither can they beat him. And sasuke see minato coming with sharingan because your video proves it he dodged A's punch and dodged Bees fast attack when they were fighting him hence doing what minato did that you claimed was so great.
The black flames have to get on you, and as we saw with Sasuke fight with the Raikage A, if you have superior speed the black flames can't touch you.And why would a genuis like Minato allow sasuke the time to prepare Kirin.Kirin takes sasuke heating up the atmosphere to activate, and it takes a lot of heat seeing as sasuke trick Itachi into helping him by using amaterasu.kirin in a battle with Minato is not an option.And sasuke didn't predict the raikage movements and then he move underneath his punch, but when the raikage fully activated he went to susano because he knew he couldn't keep up with the raikage speed.
 

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The black flames have to get on you, and as we saw with Sasuke fight with the Raikage A, if you have superior speed the black flames can't touch you.And why would a genuis like Minato allow sasuke the time to prepare Kirin.Kirin takes sasuke heating up the atmosphere to activate, and it takes a lot of heat seeing as sasuke trick Itachi into helping him by using amaterasu.kirin in a battle with Minato is not an option.And sasuke didn't predict the raikage movements and then he move underneath his punch, but when the raikage fully activated he went to susano because he knew he couldn't keep up with the raikage speed.
If the raikage was so fast why didnt he kill sasuke with his batista bomb?
How is minato going to get close enough to sasuke to stop him from using susano at the beginning of the battle?
 

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If Nagato uses chakra sensing rain cant he track Minato?
ftg don't use chakra so it would be hard, and do you know how hard it would be for all of 6 path surrounding minato to keep up with him?even if eyes are link, they wouldn't even be able to hold him (minato master the sealing jutsu of the uzumaki let's not forget that he has plenty of seals to use on minato trust me rds was only the tip of the ice's berg. why i say that well lets wait till we find out what jutsu he made for Naruto. (EMS sasuke and Madara as he is right now are the only one's i see that could kill him- i say EMS sasuke because he is the second person ever to get that power and knowing kish he is going to give him some super charge jutsu along with it like Naruto receive(but let's wait to see what sasuke can do to see if i am right.( and how many time's i have to stress that minato is faster than Raikage-kishi wrote that, and black flames require eye movement which i also told you it's kinda hard keeping up with him because all you see is a flash. (put w.e you like this is my last time on this thread i am bored and tired of repeating my self.)
 
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ftg don't use chakra so it would be hard, and do you know how hard it would be for all of 6 path surrounding minato to keep up with him?even if eyes are link, they wouldn't even be able to hold him (minato master the sealing jutsu of the uzumaki let's not forget that he has plenty of seals to use on minato trust me rds was only the tip of the ice's berg. why i say that well lets wait till we find out what jutsu he made for Naruto. (EMS sasuke and Madara as he is right now are the only one's i see that could kill him- i say EMS sasuke because he is the second person ever to get that power and knowing kish he is going to give him some super charge jutsu along with it like Naruto receive(but let's wait to see what sasuke can do to see if i am right.
ftg dont use chakra? Every jutsu uses chakra! Also if he did fight nagato's 6 paths it would be hard for him to them but how will he beat them he can easily use a huge enough shnra tensei to block the kunai and push them far awy for he doesnt have to worryt about them anymore. Also what if sasuke used ameratsu to surround the area and burn all his kunnai how will reach him. H wont be able to teleport anywhere if his seals and kunai he placed get burned.
 
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ftg don't use chakra so it would be hard, and do you know how hard it would be for all of 6 path surrounding minato to keep up with him?even if eyes are link, they wouldn't even be able to hold him (minato master the sealing jutsu of the uzumaki let's not forget that he has plenty of seals to use on minato trust me rds was only the tip of the ice's berg. why i say that well lets wait till we find out what jutsu he made for Naruto. (EMS sasuke and Madara as he is right now are the only one's i see that could kill him- i say EMS sasuke because he is the second person ever to get that power and knowing kish he is going to give him some super charge jutsu along with it like Naruto receive(but let's wait to see what sasuke can do to see if i am right.( and how many time's i have to stress that minato is faster than Raikage-kishi wrote that, and black flames require eye movement which i also told you it's kinda hard keeping up with him because all you see is a flash. (put w.e you like this is my last time on this thread i am bored and tired of repeating my self.)
So Minato is a chakraless being because he uses FTG? doesnt he have chakra?
 

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ftg dont use chakra? Every jutsu uses chakra! Also if he did fight nagato's 6 paths it would be hard for him to them but how will he beat them he can easily use a huge enough shnra tensei to block the kunai and push them far awy for he doesnt have to worryt about them anymore. Also what if sasuke used ameratsu to surround the area and burn all his kunnai how will reach him. H wont be able to teleport anywhere if his seals and kunai he placed get burned.
go do your research on pein 3 second limit to his tensei( ftg is a instance no hand seal required its basically a upgraded body flicker-the speed and range of this technique are much greater. In principle, this technique is similar to the Summoning Technique, as it revolves around the manipulation of time and space rather than accelerated movement, but instead of bringing something to users, it sends them somewhere it don't use chakra) minato tele in 1 second god i am so done for real this time, people just don't read manga. (god people we just giving the owner of this thread alot of kumi i am done
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Using his Flying Thunder God Kunai, Minato can form a barrier that will teleport away incoming attacks directed at it. He can divert away attacks as large and powerful as a Tailed Beast Ball from the Nine-Tailed Demon Fox. Once the attack is warped away, Minato has to direct it to another location.
 
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If the raikage was so fast why didnt he kill sasuke with his batista bomb?
How is minato going to get close enough to sasuke to stop him from using susano at the beginning of the battle?
What is the batista bomb?I think you mean Liger Bomb, in which the raikage picks someone up and slams them.And the raikage didn't kill sasuke with his liger bomb because sasuke used Susanoo.Now what does that have to do with the raikage speed?And who said Minato has to stop sasuke from using susanoo?Susanoo takes eats up a lot of chakra, in a game of waiting, minato has the advantage.
 

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go do your research on pein 3 second limit to his tensei( ftg is a instance no hand seal required its basically a upgraded body flicker-the speed and range of this technique are much greater. In principle, this technique is similar to the Summoning Technique, as it revolves around the manipulation of time and space rather than accelerated movement, but instead of bringing something to users, it sends them somewhere it don't use chakra) minato tele in 1 second god i am so done for real this time, people just don't read manga. (god people we just giving the owner of this thread alot of kumi i am done
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He can just dodge the kunai during that 3 second limit or have his other paths back him up.
 

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There are two levels to FTG:

Level 1
Teleportation to a stationary object in the form of either a kunai or marked seal

Level 2
Teleportation to a moving object that is either a travelling kunai or a marked opponent

However, there are two glaring issues:

Kunai can be blocked

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(I know the picture shows shuriken but the point is still the same)
This is to:
  1. Stop Minato from teleporting near you
  2. Create a distance between you and Minato so as to severely limit his speed
Granted he won't throw the kunai , but you can still thwart the path of the ones headed towards you. And stop them from landing behind you. This way you'd only need to be cautious of attacks originating in front of you
Your making it sound completely easy. Is almost like doing this:
"Ok to save the world, you only have to jump inside this pool of piranhas, grab the key, swim back to the island of hope, fight a dragon, and deactivate the equipment". I can basically give you all hints possible to make something incredible simple, but in reality is not.
Another, much more believable example are sports, you watch them every single time, you can see the movements of professionals, think you can beat them, but in the end you will still be beat, you of course have a chance to win, but is limited.
He has done at least 3 fights involving FTG, the three of them were completely different, all based on the same technique. He had help from his fellow comrades too throw hundreds of kunai at the enemy, and swip them down. He used a moving kunai to teleport behind Madara. He left a kunai besides A after teleporting, then teleporting back the same second.
You cannot judge his thought process by simply using his Kunai usage and throwing everything away. Minato is a remarkable genius, and his process of analyzation are amazing, he wont spam the same movements over and over. Don't judge Minato's potential by 3 fights and his kunai, FTG can be used even without them, and Minato is free to mark anywhere he places his hand into.
His base speed exceeds normal speed. He has been shown to be fast enough for Sharingan to follow, as seen when Madara tried to strike Naruto baby.

You can prepare a defense
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This is to:
  1. Avoid being tagged
  2. Defend against an attacking kunai or Rasengan
You can anticipate
  1. FTG requires hand seal(s) - so monitor his hands and react accordingly
  2. He'd obviously attempt to teleport to the kunai closest to you
Again, preparing something is completely hard when you dont have enough data about the enemy. Even an enemy with excellent analyzation and strategy. Your seriously underestimating his skills. The "obviously attempt" to teleport to the closest kunai is in the gray areas, he be able to teleport to the closest kunai before your able to identify which is the closest kunai.
FTG does not require handseals, if it did, he be long dead when he fought raikage. The reason he created rasengan was to use techniques that do not use handseals, which easily facilitate his speed and strikes.
Also:
  1. FTG comes with a cost. It still eats your chakra
  2. Minato has a limited supply of kunai
FTG does not cost chakra. The reason it doesnt is because is based on Fuinjutsu, the liberation of sealed chakra to create ninjutsu. Even if it consumes chakra, the amount of chakra used is minuscular compared to other techniques.
Minato has at least 30 kunai in his pocket, right? He is able to use Shadow Shuriken Clone Jutsu to multiply a single kunai into a 1000, so he pretty much has around 30000 kunai at his disposal.
Even if he has no kunai available, it doesnt mean he is unable to use FTG, he is able to put seals in rocks, the floor, animals, trees. Just thinking that the Kunai are a neccesity is a lie.

In addition (this is extra, you don't have to read it):
Highest ranking jutsu
Their use is quite self-explanatory
  • Izanagi
  • Susano’o
  • Amaterasu
  • Shinra tensei

Low-class ninjutsu

High-class ninjutsu
Shadow Clone Jutsu
Uses:
  1. Diversionary tactic
Wind affinity
High-level Wind technique- use is quite self-explanatory - scatter away kunai

Earth affinity

Water affinity

Medical ninjutsu/Healing

Taijutsu

To paralyze/disable:
i.e. disable his body – a leg(s) or arm(s)

  • Poison – Sasori

Match his speed or reflexes
(To react to his movement i.e. to react quickly enough to dodge his strike when he reappears after teleporting)

  1. Gate release
  2. Lightning Armour technique
  3. Senjutsu augmented speed
  4. Jinchuriki speed
  5. Shunshin masters – Shisui, Sasuke…
  6. Swift release
  7. THREE tomoe sharingan precognition
  8. Near 360 degree Byakugan vision

Intagibility
  1. Kamui

Flight

  1. Oonoki
  2. Muu
  3. Gaara’s sand
  4. Deidara’s clay
  5. Sasuke’s hawk summoning
    --an air oriented summoning technique will suffice
  6. Nagato

Kekkei genkai

Targetting the kunai
  1. Amaterasu kunai
  2. Spoil seal formula – Lava KG…etc…

Target environment/surroundings

Destroy surroundings
To disperse of tagged kunai:

Smash ground – powerful chakra enhanced ground attack i.e Tsunade, Sakura...etc…

Advantage of terrain
Water – or other high-level water techniques

Air - flight

Desert – sinking kunai,

Ladies and gentlemen, we've defeated FTG (or at least created a sort of stalemate).
  1. Minato can't harm you
  2. Minato can't outpace you
  3. Minato can't get near you
You have not defeated FTG yet, you got a basic plan on what to do in case you confront it, but the variables are infinite. You cannot judge how a battle will go, and if you where infront of him, I doubt you be able to react to his base skill, much less his kunais been launch at you, which will reach you before you notice.

please, just stop with FTG = instant death
that isn't true, at least when it comes to jounin

Minato is overrated.
True, FTG isnt instant dead, is an instant supplementary jutsu. The deadliness of the technique falls when Minato is able to react to his own movement and act accordingly, which makes his moves much less anticipated.
Minato isn't overrated, but is underestimated.
 
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Yo, like it or not, it is an extremely OP tech. H*ll, he disappeared away from Madara even after Madara had a hand on him and had already started his space-time migration. That's fast, and when A says that he's the fastest shinobi to ever live. I mean, come on man! That being said, I would still much rather have Sasuke's EMS techniques and Naruto's TB Mode techniques that we know about, plus the ones we haven't even seen yet. They are both crazy powerful right now!

I do love how the thread creator uses the strongest characters in all of Naruto and each of their strongest techs to prove that Minato's 1 tech isn't instant death! xd Yo guy, it's an awesome tech and yes, you are right, it's not instant death but, it's by far the top 3 jutsu that I would love to learn in the Narutoverse! :)
 
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The FTG technique doesn't require handseals.

And also, you said that he has a limited amount of kunai, which is wrong. He can use the shadow clone shuriken jutsu as show in the 4th Naruto Shippuden Movie.
 

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Your making it sound completely easy. Is almost like doing this:
"Ok to save the world, you only have to jump inside this pool of piranhas, grab the key, swim back to the island of hope, fight a dragon, and deactivate the equipment". I can basically give you all hints possible to make something incredible simple, but in reality is not.
Another, much more believable example are sports, you watch them every single time, you can see the movements of professionals, think you can beat them, but in the end you will still be beat, you of course have a chance to win, but is limited.
He has done at least 3 fights involving FTG, the three of them were completely different, all based on the same technique. He had help from his fellow comrades too throw hundreds of kunai at the enemy, and swip them down. He used a moving kunai to teleport behind Madara. He left a kunai besides A after teleporting, then teleporting back the same second.
You cannot judge his thought process by simply using his Kunai usage and throwing everything away. Minato is a remarkable genius, and his process of analyzation are amazing, he wont spam the same movements over and over. Don't judge Minato's potential by 3 fights and his kunai, FTG can be used even without them, and Minato is free to mark anywhere he places his hand into.
His base speed exceeds normal speed. He has been shown to be fast enough for Sharingan to follow, as seen when Madara tried to strike Naruto baby.



Again, preparing something is completely hard when you dont have enough data about the enemy. Even an enemy with excellent analyzation and strategy. Your seriously underestimating his skills. The "obviously attempt" to teleport to the closest kunai is in the gray areas, he be able to teleport to the closest kunai before your able to identify which is the closest kunai.
FTG does not require handseals, if it did, he be long dead when he fought raikage. The reason he created rasengan was to use techniques that do not use handseals, which easily facilitate his speed and strikes.


FTG does not cost chakra. The reason it doesnt is because is based on Fuinjutsu, the liberation of sealed chakra to create ninjutsu. Even if it consumes chakra, the amount of chakra used is minuscular compared to other techniques.
Minato has at least 30 kunai in his pocket, right? He is able to use Shadow Shuriken Clone Jutsu to multiply a single kunai into a 1000, so he pretty much has around 30000 kunai at his disposal.
Even if he has no kunai available, it doesnt mean he is unable to use FTG, he is able to put seals in rocks, the floor, animals, trees. Just thinking that the Kunai are a neccesity is a lie.

In addition (this is extra, you don't have to read it):
Highest ranking jutsu
Their use is quite self-explanatory
  • Izanagi
  • Susano’o
  • Amaterasu
  • Shinra tensei

Low-class ninjutsu

High-class ninjutsu
Shadow Clone Jutsu
Uses:
  1. Diversionary tactic
Wind affinity
High-level Wind technique- use is quite self-explanatory - scatter away kunai

Earth affinity

Water affinity

Medical ninjutsu/Healing

Taijutsu

To paralyze/disable:
i.e. disable his body – a leg(s) or arm(s)

  • Poison – Sasori

Match his speed or reflexes
(To react to his movement i.e. to react quickly enough to dodge his strike when he reappears after teleporting)

  1. Gate release
  2. Lightning Armour technique
  3. Senjutsu augmented speed
  4. Jinchuriki speed
  5. Shunshin masters – Shisui, Sasuke…
  6. Swift release
  7. THREE tomoe sharingan precognition
  8. Near 360 degree Byakugan vision

Intagibility
  1. Kamui

Flight

  1. Oonoki
  2. Muu
  3. Gaara’s sand
  4. Deidara’s clay
  5. Sasuke’s hawk summoning
    --an air oriented summoning technique will suffice
  6. Nagato

Kekkei genkai

Targetting the kunai
  1. Amaterasu kunai
  2. Spoil seal formula – Lava KG…etc…

Target environment/surroundings

Destroy surroundings
To disperse of tagged kunai:

Smash ground – powerful chakra enhanced ground attack i.e Tsunade, Sakura...etc…

Advantage of terrain
Water – or other high-level water techniques

Air - flight

Desert – sinking kunai,



You have not defeated FTG yet, you got a basic plan on what to do in case you confront it, but the variables are infinite. You cannot judge how a battle will go, and if you where infront of him, I doubt you be able to react to his base skill, much less his kunais been launch at you, which will reach you before you notice.



True, FTG isnt instant dead, is an instant supplementary jutsu. The deadliness of the technique falls when Minato is able to react to his own movement and act accordingly, which makes his moves much less anticipated.
Minato isn't overrated, but is underestimated.
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There are two levels to FTG:

Level 1
Teleportation to a stationary object in the form of either a kunai or marked seal

Level 2
Teleportation to a moving object that is either a travelling kunai or a marked opponent

However, there are two glaring issues:

Kunai can be blocked

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(I know the picture shows shuriken but the point is still the same)
This is to:
  1. Stop Minato from teleporting near you
  2. Create a distance between you and Minato so as to severely limit his speed
Granted he won't throw the kunai , but you can still thwart the path of the ones headed towards you. And stop them from landing behind you. This way you'd only need to be cautious of attacks originating in front of you

You can prepare a defense
Ex.
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This is to:
  1. Avoid being tagged
  2. Defend against an attacking kunai or Rasengan
You can anticipate
  1. FTG requires hand seal(s) - so monitor his hands and react accordingly
  2. He'd obviously attempt to teleport to the kunai closest to you
Also:
  1. FTG comes with a cost. It still eats your chakra
  2. Minato has a limited supply of kunai
In addition (this is extra, you don't have to read it):
Highest ranking jutsu
Their use is quite self-explanatory
  • Izanagi
  • Susano’o
  • Amaterasu
  • Shinra tensei

Low-class ninjutsu

High-class ninjutsu
Shadow Clone Jutsu
Uses:
  1. Diversionary tactic
Wind affinity
High-level Wind technique- use is quite self-explanatory - scatter away kunai

Earth affinity

Water affinity

Medical ninjutsu/Healing

Taijutsu

To paralyze/disable:
i.e. disable his body – a leg(s) or arm(s)

  • Poison – Sasori

Match his speed or reflexes
(To react to his movement i.e. to react quickly enough to dodge his strike when he reappears after teleporting)

  1. Gate release
  2. Lightning Armour technique
  3. Senjutsu augmented speed
  4. Jinchuriki speed
  5. Shunshin masters – Shisui, Sasuke…
  6. Swift release
  7. THREE tomoe sharingan precognition
  8. Near 360 degree Byakugan vision

Intagibility
  1. Kamui

Flight

  1. Oonoki
  2. Muu
  3. Gaara’s sand
  4. Deidara’s clay
  5. Sasuke’s hawk summoning
    --an air oriented summoning technique will suffice
  6. Nagato

Kekkei genkai

Targetting the kunai
  1. Amaterasu kunai
  2. Spoil seal formula – Lava KG…etc…

Target environment/surroundings

Destroy surroundings
To disperse of tagged kunai:

Smash ground – powerful chakra enhanced ground attack i.e Tsunade, Sakura...etc…

Advantage of terrain
Water – or other high-level water techniques

Air - flight

Desert – sinking kunai,

Ladies and gentlemen, we've defeated FTG (or at least created a sort of stalemate).
  1. Minato can't harm you
  2. Minato can't outpace you
  3. Minato can't get near you
please, just stop with FTG = instant death
that isn't true, at least when it comes to jounin

Minato is overrated.
Thank you I agree with. There are way's to stall Minato, but it all depends on the shinobi he faces. Granted he was the smartest shinobi (if not one of the strongest). But I do beleive he can be beaten, if his opponent can keep up with him.
and as for the kunai part Minato has been seen teleporting from kunai to kunai pretty quikly. Even if you blocked them all it wouldn't mattere, he would probly just us them to avoid attacks.
Also the only reason they FTG is a instant death is because other than Vs. Madara, and Vs. A & B. Most people couldn't get passed it and found him behind them ready to slice a jugular or to.
 

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ftg god is useless to shinra tensai all kunai are going out of his area or nagato can just use the kunai to bring them to him if minato want's to teleport he's basically coming to nagato, nagato can just hit him with the rod then
 

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Minato is dead... Who cares? But anyways, what if you don't have chidori nagashi? What about the countless shinobi minato killed due to FTG? Why didn't they do what you are stating? Because they couldn't...
 

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well, first, kunai are much larger, so it would impossible to throw that many at any given time.

No, Minato isn't faster than Itachi. Itachi's hand seal speed, and weapon throwing skills are highly praised, in addition to that he has the Sharingan.

that's why I said you need a defense like Chidori Nagashi, to defend yourself and thwart him off when he nears you.

Teleporting requires chakra, Minato can't teleport indefinitely. Teleporting requires hand seals, you can't teleport and throw several kunai at the same time
nice thread .. minato is not unbeatable but .... im just sayin ... he has a huge amount of chakra .... i bet he close or surpasses naruto's level ... he had enough chakra to beat madraa teleport the FULL 9 tails tbb and then teleport the nine tails him self and perfom he last 2 great feats of sealing kushinas chakra and the foxes chakra ...
 
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